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Able to see from whom you buy stuff (SIMPLE IDEA)
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Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#1 - 2014-03-25 18:23:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Egravant Alduin
Simple suggestion :

Sometimes you want to buy stuff only from persons you know or want to help but without creating a contract .I want to be able to see from whom I buy the stuff in the order i choose and not after i buy something I can only see it in journal or transactions.

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Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-03-25 18:29:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Barbara Nichole
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Simple suggestion :

Sometimes you want to buy stuff only from persons you know or want to help but without creating a contract .I want to be able to see from whom I buy the stuff in the order i choose and not after i buy something I can only see it in journal or transactions.

Buy a small quantity from a specific sell order - check your transaction log - then make your choice whether or not to buy more based on who the seller is listed there. You'll never have a guarantee you are not buying from an alt of someone you dislike.

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

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Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#3 - 2014-03-25 18:31:22 UTC
Barbara Nichole wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Simple suggestion :

Sometimes you want to buy stuff only from persons you know or want to help but without creating a contract .I want to be able to see from whom I buy the stuff in the order i choose and not after i buy something I can only see it in journal or transactions.

Buy a small quantity from a specific sell order - check your transaction log - then make your choice whether or not to buy more based on who the seller is listed there. You have no guarantee you are not buying from an alt of someone you dislike.


That's my point why we don't know who sells what and find out after we buy it?I just want to see sellers name in the orders.

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Bertral
Les chevaliers de l'ordre
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2014-03-25 18:37:12 UTC
These are additional informations the server would need to fetch. This could greatly impact performance for a very situational feature.
If you want to buy stuff from someone in particular, make a contract.
Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#5 - 2014-03-25 19:08:14 UTC
Bertral wrote:
These are additional informations the server would need to fetch. This could greatly impact performance for a very situational feature.
If you want to buy stuff from someone in particular, make a contract.


My friend text info are too low for a server that handles 20-50ks people to handle so that won t be a problem.

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#6 - 2014-03-25 19:34:41 UTC
Umm... contracts

CEO of Lanate Industries

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2014-03-25 21:15:50 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Barbara Nichole wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Simple suggestion :

Sometimes you want to buy stuff only from persons you know or want to help but without creating a contract .I want to be able to see from whom I buy the stuff in the order i choose and not after i buy something I can only see it in journal or transactions.

Buy a small quantity from a specific sell order - check your transaction log - then make your choice whether or not to buy more based on who the seller is listed there. You have no guarantee you are not buying from an alt of someone you dislike.


That's my point why we don't know who sells what and find out after we buy it?I just want to see sellers name in the orders.



Market alts exist, so this would not tell you who you were buying from anyway...
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-03-25 22:46:32 UTC
Only thing I could see this helping is finding out which dickhead bought all the good stuff and jacked the prices (out in nullsec)
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#9 - 2014-03-25 22:55:16 UTC
Rowells wrote:
Only thing I could see this helping is finding out which dickhead bought all the good stuff and jacked the prices (out in nullsec)

Or who is being a jerk and underselling you by 0.01 so you can see if you can War Dec them. Twisted

Cloaking is the closest thing to a "Pause Game" button one can get while in space.

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nia starstryder
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-03-26 01:25:09 UTC
I can tell you the reason they don't do this. Its to prevent (or at least hinder) people from transferring money from a trial account to another.
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-03-28 15:31:14 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
[quote=Barbara Nichole][quote=Egravant Alduin]Simple suggestion :
That's my point why we don't know who sells what and find out after we buy it?I just want to see sellers name in the orders.

my point was that the information is available .. but you have to look for it. I like it the way it is.

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

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Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2014-03-28 15:55:24 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Barbara Nichole wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Simple suggestion :

Sometimes you want to buy stuff only from persons you know or want to help but without creating a contract .I want to be able to see from whom I buy the stuff in the order i choose and not after i buy something I can only see it in journal or transactions.

Buy a small quantity from a specific sell order - check your transaction log - then make your choice whether or not to buy more based on who the seller is listed there. You have no guarantee you are not buying from an alt of someone you dislike.


That's my point why we don't know who sells what and find out after we buy it?I just want to see sellers name in the orders.


Much market pvp is based on watchlisting of competitors etc and providing this free intel as to which orders belong to which competitor would be a significant nerf to people that take the time to sample orders and monitor competitors. Equally people manipulating the market don't want to make it too obvious to too many people who i doing what.
Your request for free intel combined with the way in which eve markets operate (you can only buy from the cheapest buy order whether you like them or not) as well as the widespread use of markey alts makes your suggestion a nerf to many market playstyles and a benefit to no one including yourself.

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#13 - 2014-03-28 16:29:45 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Sometimes you want to buy stuff only from persons you know or want to help but without creating a contract


Many of those people are involved in RMT.

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Mike Flynn
Energy
#14 - 2014-03-28 16:56:49 UTC
Petrified wrote:
Rowells wrote:
Only thing I could see this helping is finding out which dickhead bought all the good stuff and jacked the prices (out in nullsec)

Or who is being a jerk and underselling you by 0.01 so you can see if you can War Dec them. Twisted


You should friend request those jerks because they actually help keep your sell orders higher. Think about it.
Mike Flynn
Energy
#15 - 2014-03-28 16:58:13 UTC
While seeing this info may provide some fringe gameplay, like others have said the increased server load would have to be low enough to justify this change.
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2014-03-28 18:28:37 UTC
Petrified wrote:
Rowells wrote:
Only thing I could see this helping is finding out which dickhead bought all the good stuff and jacked the prices (out in nullsec)

Or who is being a jerk and underselling you by 0.01 so you can see if you can War Dec them. Twisted

Gives a new meaning to economic warfare, huh?
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2014-03-28 18:30:54 UTC
Mike Flynn wrote:
While seeing this info may provide some fringe gameplay, like others have said the increased server load would have to be low enough to justify this change.

I really doubt the server load would even be noticeable. The data is already there it's just not shown to everybody.
Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#18 - 2014-03-29 22:04:59 UTC
As some of the above people sid the server will never notice such a difference.War dec the 0.01 guys would be fun.Yup new meaning of market and pvp vs market.

Feel the wrath of the GECKO!
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#19 - 2014-03-29 22:12:16 UTC
Rowells wrote:
Petrified wrote:
Rowells wrote:
Only thing I could see this helping is finding out which dickhead bought all the good stuff and jacked the prices (out in nullsec)

Or who is being a jerk and underselling you by 0.01 so you can see if you can War Dec them. Twisted

Gives a new meaning to economic warfare, huh?


Yep Big smile

Course, it does no good if they are in an NPC corp.

Cloaking is the closest thing to a "Pause Game" button one can get while in space.

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nia starstryder
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2014-04-06 18:12:59 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
As some of the above people sid the server will never notice such a difference.War dec the 0.01 guys would be fun.Yup new meaning of market and pvp vs market.


the ones that's more likely to get war dec is the guy that drop prices 100k when there is only 100k profit.