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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2011-11-24 21:17:48 UTC
Hamish Grayson wrote:
I would also point out that the robust trade economy of the Federation imports and exports more goods across the Amarrian border than the State does.


Citation very much needed.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#62 - 2011-11-25 07:44:21 UTC
Ascentior wrote:

Show me. No one is ever forced to crew any of my ships. I must have faith in my crew and they must have faith in what we are doing. How else am I to expect to enlighten anyone?

But again, this has degraded from a discussion on my work trying to help people from all walks find their faith. Which I do without chains, whips, drugs or lasers. Instead, we again start talking about who can blow who up. While I have no moral issues destroying the ships of those who target me, my crew, other loyalist capsuleers, or the brave crew of our Imperial Navy, I do so only in the hopes that we get an opportunity to speak with the unenlightened populace.

These rebels have shown time and time again that they do not WANT to know of God, and that is fine, they don't believe in the divine retribution that will come. A shame, but not in my control and not my focus. What they are doing, is preventing others from hearing the Lord's voice, and that IS something I can not allow.

It's true that faith, real faith, can takes years, generations, even millennia to be found. But the sooner we start, the sooner they can all rejoice in His splendour.

Those of you who don't agree, who wish to fight all Amarr to the bitter end, I understand. I regret that I cannot save you, but I will accept that. Should this change, I will welcome that change. You never have to explain to me why you don't believe. But you will not change my mind or any of those who walk this path either. So stop filling up my comms with your inane dribble. I did start the conversation with...

"Ascentior wrote:
Greetings faithful, and if you are truly interested, those of lesser faith.


Perhaps that should be a hint that you don't have an interest in what was to follow? You've all shown that you have enough grasp of language to understand that concept.


Hey, preach your "religion" to whoever is weak-minded and foolish enough to listen. Broadcast it via FTL comms, old-fashioned carrier wave antennae, smoke signals or shouted from the rooftops for all I care. If you want to send missionaries or crates of the Pax Amarria to the farthest reaches of New Eden to convert people to your "religion" then, have at it! We draw the line, however, at your insistence upon forcing people, whether by slavery, Vitoc, TCMC, or other coercive means, into accepting your vision of all mankind subservient to you. Perhaps from the strong reactions you've seen here you'd have realized that most of us want nothing to do with your nonsense. Why is that so difficult to understand?

So long as you persist in spreading your beliefs at the point of a gun, we will persist in resisting.

Now, please stop filling up my comms with your inane dribble. Either come out and fight us all (oh, and don't forget the Jove... they might want to show you an encore performance of Vak'Atioth) or shut up about it. Since you are backed by your all-powerful deity that shouldn't be too tough now, should it?

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Gottii
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2011-11-28 03:02:27 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Hamish Grayson wrote:
I would also point out that the robust trade economy of the Federation imports and exports more goods across the Amarrian border than the State does.


Citation very much needed.



Aye, this. On just about everything claimed as fact.
Hamish Grayson
#64 - 2011-11-28 20:37:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Hamish Grayson
I considered being glib and linking the galactic encyclopedia since all of this is available there.  I will instead invite the both of you to Heiian College.  It's a channel for discussing things like the State's intergalactic policies.
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2011-11-30 15:55:33 UTC
Ascentior wrote:
We will do whatever it takes. If I have to knock someone out and drag them out of the way of an incoming hover-bus, I will. If I have to chain someone up and carry the to the waterhole and force feed them water to help them survive, then I must. They will hate us until the very moment that they are saved. Then they may even resent us for seeing what they could not. But it is no matter. We must do what is right. That is why God has sent us on this path.

Many pages could be written about the philosophic correctness or incorrectness of interfering with another person's path. But instead I'll just quote the words of my late grandfather: "Lord, save me from my well-meaning friends and relatives!"