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Floydd Heywood
Doomheim
#381 - 2011-11-30 14:38:29 UTC
mkint wrote:
I do have to say that I feel bad for punkturis. She comes across as so nice and sweet, and nobody seems to much like the work she's done on the font.


Nonsense, even on the forums a majority says they like the new font better, just count the posts. And everyone knows that people are more likely to voice their complaints than their praise. Which means that a huge majority likes the new font better.

The old font almost made me stop playing EVE on day one because my eyes hurt from all the reading in this horrible, small, illegible font. New font is not perfect but much much better.

The people who hate the new font seem to be a sizable minority though, so CCP should try to solve their problems too. It seems that most people who say the new font is not readable and hurts their eyes are playing on tiny screens (19'' or smaller). Surely CCP can find a way to make the font look better on small screens without reverting to the old terrible font.
Psychophantic
#382 - 2011-11-30 14:43:27 UTC
Floydd Heywood wrote:
huge majority

sizable minority
Dinta Zembo
Tea. Earl Grey. Cold.
#383 - 2011-11-30 14:51:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Dinta Zembo
How about an optional patch with the old font?
(and start working on an option to choose a font after that)
Telkeetna
League of Gentlemen
The Initiative.
#384 - 2011-11-30 14:52:29 UTC
Love the new font. It is easy to read and looks great at my resolution.
Floydd Heywood
Doomheim
#385 - 2011-11-30 14:55:37 UTC
Psychophantic wrote:
Floydd Heywood wrote:
huge majority

sizable minority


Your point being?

If for example 80% of players like the new font that's a huge majority. If the other 20% dislike it that is a sizable minority. CCP couldn't afford to ignore the pain of 20% of their players, even though they a clearly the minority.
Fidelium Mortis
Minor Major Miners LLC
#386 - 2011-11-30 15:01:43 UTC
The new font coupled with UI scaling is a godsend for larger screens from a purely utilitarian perspective. I currently run EVE on 1920x1200 and 1920x1080 monitors and this is a welcomed improvement.

ICRS - Intergalactic Certified Rocket Surgeon
Ham Beast McBackfat
Deep Space Disco Biscuit
#387 - 2011-11-30 15:14:11 UTC
The spacing between the characters could use some adjustment. As others have pointed out the decimal gets a bit crowded and difficult to see.

Overall the new font is a huge improvement for me.
Horus Menvra
DREAD DOWN DREAD DOWN
#388 - 2011-11-30 15:16:18 UTC
I must say that at first I strongly disliked the new fonts and actually found it to be a tad more difficult to read, but after scaling to 90% and taking a day to get used to the new font, I've found that I actually like it a great deal more than the old font.

Job well done...even if it takes us a few days to adjust!
Hark Hanam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#389 - 2011-11-30 15:19:54 UTC
Now that i have tried it, here's my opinion : nothing wrong with the font, it's readable, smooth.
Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
#390 - 2011-11-30 15:23:02 UTC
As much as I love to gripe about things in EvE sometimes, the new font is a vast improvement IMO.
mkint
#391 - 2011-11-30 15:31:46 UTC
Horus Menvra wrote:
I must say that at first I strongly disliked the new fonts and actually found it to be a tad more difficult to read, but after scaling to 90% and taking a day to get used to the new font, I've found that I actually like it a great deal more than the old font.

Job well done...even if it takes us a few days to adjust!

Instruction for making the new font to not look like crap on your computer:

1) adjust ui scaling to 87.93%
2) set font size to 9.25 pt
3) download but do not install an Ubuntu USB distro
4) change ui scaling to 94.73%
5) whisper a prayer to Kali may she watch over us all
6) sacrifice a chicken and give a vial of the blood to the beggar at the nearest onramp
7) spend the next 8 years in a Turkish monastery while ccp catches up with the 1980s tech of multiple fonts and the 17th century tech of good fonts.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
Oylmpia
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#392 - 2011-11-30 15:35:29 UTC
There's a screen at 110% scaling 2560x1600: http://hakkarainen.kuvat.fi/tempo/spam2/eve_new.jpg

There's plenty of room and you can even see what happens around you if needed.

Sadly I didn't take a screen from the old font for comparison but it was so hard to read that it's not a big loss I forgot :D
Psychophantic
#393 - 2011-11-30 15:39:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Psychophantic
Oylmpia wrote:
There's a screen at 110% scaling 2560x1600: http://hakkarainen.kuvat.fi/tempo/spam2/eve_new.jpg


I'd be pissed if I bought a 27" or larger lcd to run 2560x1600 and still have a third of the screen taken up by the overview and still not have velocity or radial columns.

1680x1050

90% http://i.imgur.com/Wr4nC.jpg

100% http://i.imgur.com/WtAX3.jpg
Ohanka
#394 - 2011-11-30 15:40:13 UTC
Eugene Spencer wrote:
I love the new font. t's very readable.

People had plenty of time to feed back before the patch went live. If they can't be bothered, screw them. They'll get over it in a few days anyway.


lying carebear troll.

North Korea is Best Korea
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#395 - 2011-11-30 15:43:35 UTC
My only complaint about the new font is the uneven distribution of numbers. My wallet is hard to read because it is too closely spaced (when hovering over the toolbar), but when buying something the digits are far enough apart to park a Fenrir.

If I scale to 90% a lot of it looks better, but unit counts (ammo, ore, etc...) on hangar items become unreadable.

Overall I'd say it is a good start, but it need more polish.

Note to self, file bug report about putting things in a GSC, you get a badly coded error if you put prohibited items in one.

-Mad

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Alistair Cononach
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#396 - 2011-11-30 15:45:53 UTC
I like the new font, and support it's use. It's much easier to read.

But it will take some time to get used to.

Don't care one way or the other if an option is given to have old font or now, as I won't use the old.

On a side note, would love to have lokcing windows back.
Oylmpia
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#397 - 2011-11-30 15:45:53 UTC
Psychophantic wrote:
I'd be pissed if I bought a 27" or larger lcd to run 2560x1600 and still have a third of the screen taken up by the overview and still not have velocity or radial columns.


The screen is 30". Velocity should be there but I never remember to add it :P It doesn't matter though since you can do pve just fine without.

Why radial?
Garra 82
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#398 - 2011-11-30 15:46:24 UTC
I love the new font. The old one I had trouble reading at 1900x1200. The new font I have no problems reading please don't go back to the old font. If enough people hate the new font then maybe give them a option to switch back but don't change the whole thing back.
Signal11th
#399 - 2011-11-30 15:51:38 UTC
new font is fine, shame you can't choose fonts though, When they were going on about fully customisable UI didn't realise they mean;t

"Yes you can fully customise the UI as long as you like the same colours and one font"


God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
Shkolnica
#400 - 2011-11-30 16:19:30 UTC