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New dev blog: A 60 day trial key for your favorite soon-to-be EVE player

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Lord Wickham
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2011-11-30 12:53:20 UTC
why would players take this option over the 21 day and 30 day plex activation timer? its 9 days difference but once activated you lose all the trial restrictions.

new players cant get this any other way except through someone they know and someone they know will tell them to take the 21day+ plex option.


CCP i dont think you thought this through enough
TheButcherPete
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#22 - 2011-11-30 13:00:02 UTC
New player:

WOOT I have 81 days to do learn how to dominate the universe!

Day 1: Ibis of Doom, Bantam of Mining Fury

Day 2: Merlin of Chaos and Misery.

Day 3: Cormorant of Dominance (lols)

Day 7: The Murderer of Many: Moa "Wait, wtf? My Cormorant does more damage!"

Day 8: *Opens wallet* Wow... a million isk. I am a badass!

Day 14: *Opens wallet* WOOT! 30 million isk! *buys Battlecruiser skillbook* Then learns that he/she is actually still a trial, just a hilariously extended trial account.

Day 15: "Well, my Moa isn't all that great, and my Cormorant got blown up in an asteroid belt. Now what?"

Day 16: "I just spent two weeks of my life training to be the best capsuleer ever, and my ships aren't all that nice."

Day 17: "Hmm, I hear in the Rookie Help chat that the Rifter and Thrasher are really nice, whatever those are."

Day 18: "Minmatar frigate level 3 is training, I can almost fly a Rifter. How can Minmatar ships be space flight capable and so rusty at the same time?"

Day 19: "This has happened to me earlier, but my ship just flashed and I turned into an egg! Did I level up or something?"

Day 20: "Well, since the Moa isn't all that great, I think I'll sell it. I need isk for Minmatar Cruiser skillbook."

Day 24: "Wow, this ship is pretty nice. I'm not sure why Minmatar named their ships after such violent acts. However I do like this Rupture."

Day 30: "Wow, what now? Apparently I'm off limits to Battlecruisers. This Rupture is nice, but sorta slow for what I do. Has it really been a month since I started playing?"

Day 31: "I found a place called Jita today, I'm not even fully sure what it is, but it seems that there are so many people here that the police don't function. I seen someone in an evil looking ship attack another person in a pod on the stargate. I'm really scared for my life. I warped to each station in the solar system, and one of them had hundreds of players outside!"

Day 32: "I sit on a stargate in Jita, watching the passerby and thinking about my future in this game. Suddenly, a yellow ship of massive size flies in next to me and about a dozen other players. This yellow ship somehow attacked me, and all of those people at the same time. My ship flashed and I was back in that egg thing. The yellow monstrosity then attacked my new egg-ship, which somehow teleported me to where I was born. Was that some sort of Game Master trick?"

Day 33: "I hadn't noticed until today, but one of my chat channels is missing. I think it was Rookie Help channel. Now I feel truly alone in this game. The person that brought me here... I told him that I could handle this on my own, without his help. This EVE game is unlike any other I've ever seen."

Day 35: "I learned that it was not a Game Master trick that sent me back to where it all began, that giant ship, aptly named "Armageddon" had killed my capsule. Why would anyone do such a thing? I am the innocent, I haven't been here long enough for someone to dislike me."

Day 36: "I'm not sure what to do now, I've been playing for barely over a month and I have nothing to really show for it."

Day 37: "Exams are near, I must study for them. Perhaps after they're finished I'll look into this game further"

End Noob Tales.

CCP, an 81 day long trial is just too long. The old 21 day rule was like "Upgrade and have better ships, or gtfo."
I can only see this being good for people who are close to the person that invites them, otherwise this will be used for gank alts Twisted

Eighty one days is just too long to be stuck in the limbo of Trial Account-hood.

As always, I love you, CCP.

[b]THE KING OF EVE RADIO

If EVE is real, does that mean all of us are RMTrs?[/b]

Hoist Pax
Pax Seibertronia
#23 - 2011-11-30 13:04:32 UTC
OK, interesting Idea.. but I checked my account management pages and cannot find any such link on where to get the code to give my 'friend' to start the 60 day trial.. any clues where it might be? I think it is past 1200, but now that I check again, the note now says 'later today'.. well, I guess I will just check 'later'.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#24 - 2011-11-30 13:12:40 UTC
And what do you expect me to do with it... Straight

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude

Ekil Ix
Shadow Foxes
#25 - 2011-11-30 13:14:22 UTC
Can a kind Dev / GM tell us if applying a plex / activating the subscription will indeed give us the full time ? (60d+whatever you activated with ?)

Thanks!
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#26 - 2011-11-30 13:16:27 UTC
Ekil Ix wrote:
Can a kind Dev / GM tell us if applying a plex / activating the subscription will indeed give us the full time ? (60d+whatever you activated with ?)

Thanks!


It should but im not CCP

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude

cinderbrood
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#27 - 2011-11-30 13:29:11 UTC
This would be awesome, And id use it instantly. However.. There isnt a bloody link anywhere in account management, Why not just wait the few hours and confirm its active on the site before realeasing the dev blog :/.

Is the few extra hours of publicity on it really worth that much?
mkint
#28 - 2011-11-30 13:52:34 UTC
Yet another ganker buff. I though eve was supposed to be hard.

Step 1'start trial.
Step 2 join corp.
Step 3 scam them out of codes and thrashers
Step 4 kill everyone in the corp as many times as they will let you.
Step 5 biomass and start over.
Step 6 lol and lol and lol

How many of these do you think will be used legitimately? Do people actually still invite real people into eve? Do the marketing drones even play eve? How do they not understand what a big group of sociopaths eve'ers are?

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.

DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2011-11-30 13:57:24 UTC
Hells yeah!
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#30 - 2011-11-30 14:04:23 UTC
Thank you for your feedback so far, please continue to comment and to share your ideas with us!

The 60 Day Trial Keys will be available later today (the original date in the devblog stating 12:00 UTC was incorrect).

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#31 - 2011-11-30 14:21:30 UTC
CCP, you begin to sound desperate. Shocked

I am worrying, it's ME who must leave YOU, not the opposite! Evil

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

Rip Sword
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2011-11-30 15:03:50 UTC
Lets see. 21 days + Free plex = 51 days.
60 days and no plex + 350K = 9 extra days.
Wow. Not. Where's my free plex?
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#33 - 2011-11-30 15:23:32 UTC
thatns, but its pretty worthless with the trial restrictions
Kassasis Dakkstromri
State War Academy
Caldari State
#34 - 2011-11-30 15:30:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Kassasis Dakkstromri
This is PERFECT....

I really hope your metrics will end up showing that players are more likely to stay with EVE after having such a long time to grasp the learning curve!

I absolutely support this!!!!!


Just off the top of my head:

1- Make 30 day standard trial - Why - Cause EVE is freakin' hard for a theme park coddled mmo player to grasp.. the "Where's my avatar-syndrome" and all (thought thats now fixed. - the player has to have a chance to 'adjust'

2 - EVE is unique! We do things differently and have no MMO player counter part.... by doing something the rest of the industry doesn't do, it is free word of mouth marketing, that generates it's own hype.

3 - 60 Day trial should only come with an EVE expansion - like a special.




I don't see this program as a sign of weakness... I see it as a sign of 'vision'!

CCP you are bad at EVE... Stop potential silliness ~ Solo Wulf

Vonce forthelulz
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2011-11-30 15:43:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Vonce forthelulz
If i want my buddy to play eve with me, I can:

a) Give him a 60 day trial account. Leave him with cold feet if he wants to fly industrials or anything larger than a cruiser.

b) Give him a buddy trial (21 days) and give him a plex (30 days). I keep the plex I get for turning him into a full account via the buddy system.
--> Provides my bro with 51 days of account time, doesn't cost me anything, and unlocks the account from day one. He can join a real corp, survive in a tough mission, use large guns, have a big e-peen, etc.

I guess this new 60 day trial is nice for people who don't have enough liquidity to play with plexes but I feel like option b is still better and obtainable for most players (even if it means emptying their wallet and taking a small hit by hot-selling the plex in a trade hub).

EDIT: Buddy trial is 21 not 30 days. Mybad
ORCACommander
Obsidian Firelance Technologies
#36 - 2011-11-30 15:55:06 UTC  |  Edited by: ORCACommander
Ummm i do not think you will get subscribs from those with add everything takes so long in this game those with add will be soonest to discard it.

if they upgrade we still get our plex or game time right?
mkint
#37 - 2011-11-30 16:09:22 UTC  |  Edited by: mkint
Cynicism aside, I would be quite interested in the stats from this. In 6 months how many codes are consumed and how many of those get upgraded to paid and how many of those paid in $ instead of plexed.

Also people, this is a code. I'm pretty sure that makes this a 75 day trial as opposed to a 51 day paid.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.

Stu Manator
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2011-11-30 16:20:33 UTC
mkint wrote:
Cynicism aside, I would be quite interested in the stats from this. In 6 months how many codes are consumed and how many of those get upgraded to paid and how many of those paid in $ instead of plexed.

Also people, this is a code. I'm pretty sure that makes this a 75 day trial as opposed to a 51 day paid.


Where's your math in 75 days? They are giving 60 days for 350k. 350k is worth maybe 1 day. They are not giving you a plex at full activation that i can see. so they are giving 8 more days vs the 51 day deal.
cinderbrood
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#39 - 2011-11-30 16:51:10 UTC
I think a few posters are reading this wrong, Its not that the code gives them/you 350k, Its that there are 350 thousand codes to go out..
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#40 - 2011-11-30 17:01:10 UTC
Ok, I'll try to get all of my codes out. FWIW, thank you for giving us more powerful tools with which to recommend Eve - its exactly the kind of move that will help us with our friends and colleagues.

To the cynics asking if we're desperate for new subs - yeah, I am and I explained my reasoning in my blog (http://liangnuren.wordpress.com/2011/11/16/crucible-is-like-a-marriage/).

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.