Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This one time when I was paying D&D I totally hit a Wizard with my Paladin and it didn't die. I was like dude I just hit you in the chest with a longsword and you didn't die. He was like dude it's called hit points. Then he hit me with a fireball and I did die.

I was like dude this makes no sense in real life you'd totally be dead. He was like dude I'm a wizard. I was like dude in real life I'd have killed you. He was like no dude, in real life you're nine years old.


Please stop talking about real life equivalent to the game. It's a game. It's not reality. Your mind controlled 'small gun' isn't a pistol; a 75mm railgun is firing a round that is 3 inches across faster than the speed of sound. We cannot accurately test what that will do to another mind controlled spaceship that happens to be larger than it.

The closest thing to real life that EVE has in it's weapon systems might be considered titanium sabot, which are at least not made up words. Going by the smallest size available, we are talking about a sabot that would be 125mm across, or about the size of a modern artillery round.

So unless someone can site up the evidence of what an artillery battery firing titanium sabot into 1600mm of rolled tungsten plate would actually do, I am terrified to admit I think we need to simply trust CCP on the matter.

To make clear what he was saying i'll give an example :


A while ago i got tackled in my raven by an interceptor . We 'fought' for at least 15 minutes .I couldn't hit him as he was orbiting me at high speed but he couldn't kill me because my repping was a lot better then his damage projection.

In the end we both agreed to go our own ways without any explosions .

OP - go play world of tanks - that'll clearly be much more to your liking - especially when you're in a T1 up against a T10, infact - I'll one-on-one you with my KV-5 - which has got some major weakspots if you go in a T4 or below?

Ok let as assume OP is right, what would change? Yeah... NOTHING, Battleships only would die slower. Thats it.

Also OP Weapon Signature isnt about the size or impact Power of a Charge its about accuracy.

Big vs small/small vs big pvp in eve is extremely balanced, what isn't is ecm, one race vs another and armor vs shields.

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You would think so, eh?

But no, if you look at OP's post history (waaa it takes forever to train the biggest and best thing) then you can see the problem; OP wanted the answer to "what is the best ship?" and then to train it and never lose. It's the grind to lvl 80 then farm lower levels mentality.

Or, you can look at his post where he claims shuttles are the best thing for hauling high value cargo because they warp cloaked, and assume:

a) OP is just trolling
b) OP is ignorant of a good many things and won't take advice

Doesn't really matter which one it is.

First of all I liked your idea op.I have seen machariels dying from 3 frigates since mach was out of drones and the 800mm couldn't touch the orbiting frigates even with 0.1 tracking and webbers.

I know this isn't nice but there isn't something wrong with that why?

Ships in EVE are based in medieval era ships that used canons style weapons and were firing one ammo per some seconds not many ammo like automatic weapons do in current era .

For example a battleship in eve fires from let's say 8 cannons (any kind of weapon) which will fire again in some seconds exactly the same principles with cannon in medieval era ships.

If eve wanted to be more realistic there should be automatic weapons which they could shoot 30-40 rounds each weapon per cycle time or RPS as used in current gun systems.

With this in mind you wouldn't need tracking but you would hit at a percentage 10%-100% since you would fire many ammo in space and some probably would hit since ammo flies real fast .

I would like to see real auto weapons like

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdXw-xRKdmU

And not the boring medieval system eve has which all weapons even small ones work like canons with one ammo per cycle time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k86XhYS8GJI

Realism in game may or may not be good. In War Thunder ground forces they have realistic tank combat where tanks one-shot each other. The players in closed beta quit after 1-2 days.

Combat games need a combat system and the one in Eve is only half complete. The small scale PvP in Eve is very bad because of the ship imbalance. Small ships with small weapons have the upper hand over larger ships with large weapons. There is no penalty for attacking a large ship with a small one.

I only proposed a small change, to adjust the weapon damage based on the weapon signature and target signature. This will lead to larger range of ships that can be used in PvP. As an indirect effect it will require more output from the industry and more income for miners. Everyone would benefit from this.

Probably most of the trolls here don't actually understand what this weapon damage adjustment means. Then again you don't really need to understand what's discussed here in order to troll, right?