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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#61 - 2014-03-27 12:26:04 UTC
Desimus Maximus wrote:

If 750 happens I will skill out my remaining time and will not return until PLEX has returned to normalcy... reasonable levels.



Im not buying anymore Ferraris until they reduce the price to what I want to pay

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#62 - 2014-03-27 12:26:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Slade Trillgon
Tippia wrote:
Slade Trillgon wrote:
I just realized something. EvE is the first free to play game, to my knowledge, that the parent company controls two in-game currencies bought purely with real life cash. CCP has been positioning themselves nicely I think considering the direction they seemed to be taking two years ago. And now it looks like I should harness the power of my hourly wage to enjoy some more EvE time.

Just one problem: it's not a free-to-play game, and only one “currency” can be bought with real cash… and due to implementation failure, it hardly even counts as a currency to begin with. Blink



Other than the fact you 'can' play for free, via utilizing in game currency to pay for plex paid for by others cash, and that you can pay real life cash for plex GTC's and aurum, you are totally correct.
Good Posting
Doomheim
#63 - 2014-03-27 12:30:55 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Desimus Maximus wrote:

If 750 happens I will skill out my remaining time and will not return until PLEX has returned to normalcy... reasonable levels.



Im not buying anymore Ferraris until they reduce the price to what I want to pay



EVE isn't a ferrari. It is a flock of whiners and scrub lords
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#64 - 2014-03-27 12:31:29 UTC
Slade Trillgon wrote:
Other than the fact you 'can' play for free, via utilizing in game currency to pay for plex paid for by others cash, and that you can pay real life cash for plex and aurum, you are totally correct.

Just because you can get your subscription paid without you opening your wallet does not mean the game is free-to-play. It's still a pay-to-play subscription game, only with a mechanism to let others pay for your subscription.

PLEX is a good, not a currency, and AUR is a currency in name only since it can't really be transferred or exchanged, or used to buy any of the regular goods and services you'd expect from a working currency… but again, that's mainly a failure of implementation. The best you can do is get transfer vehicles that can be exchanged with others, but which themselves can't be used as currency.
Victor Andall
#65 - 2014-03-27 12:35:20 UTC
Ren Coursa wrote:
Desimus Maximus wrote:
Dear CCP,

When PLEX hits 750m per, I'm done. You may as well just remove it from the game and make subscription the only model.

Nothing can be accomplished in-game on a casual schedule to PLEX anymore. Incursions, ratting, mining, missions. Feels like it is becoming a full-time job just to break even without really progressing.

If 750 happens I will skill out my remaining time and will not return until PLEX has returned to normalcy... reasonable levels.



Not trying to be a **** or anything but why would they care?

You are not a paying customer as far as ccp is concerned, you are basically just an extra load on the server.



^This.

You're threatening to exchange one form of not paying money to another form of not paying money.

I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#66 - 2014-03-27 12:39:30 UTC
Desimus Maximus wrote:
Dear CCP,

When PLEX hits 750m per, I'm done. You may as well just remove it from the game and make subscription the only model.

Nothing can be accomplished in-game on a casual schedule to PLEX anymore. Incursions, ratting, mining, missions. Feels like it is becoming a full-time job just to break even without really progressing.

If 750 happens I will skill out my remaining time and will not return until PLEX has returned to normalcy... reasonable levels.


750 mil isk is 25 mil isk per day or ONE null sec anomaly (aka 6 to 15 minutes depending on what ship you use) or 2 less than steller high sec missions.

If you can't make 25 mil isk in a day, you should not be relying on isk/plex
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#67 - 2014-03-27 12:40:17 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Desimus Maximus wrote:

If 750 happens I will skill out my remaining time and will not return until PLEX has returned to normalcy... reasonable levels.



Im not buying anymore Ferraris until they reduce the price to what I want to pay


Why is this so easy for us to see and so hard for them I wonder :) .
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#68 - 2014-03-27 12:40:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Good Posting wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Desimus Maximus wrote:

If 750 happens I will skill out my remaining time and will not return until PLEX has returned to normalcy... reasonable levels.



Im not buying anymore Ferraris until they reduce the price to what I want to pay



EVE isn't a ferrari. It is a flock of whiners and scrub lords


Im not planning on buying EvE either.

Jenn aSide wrote:


Why is this so easy for us to see and so hard for them I wonder :) .


See above

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Good Posting
Doomheim
#69 - 2014-03-27 12:40:28 UTC
Victor Andall wrote:


^This.

You're threatening to exchange one form of not paying money to another form of not paying money.



:5 month old player logic:
Ren Coursa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#70 - 2014-03-27 12:41:13 UTC
Good Posting wrote:
Ren Coursa wrote:


You are not a paying customer as far as ccp is concerned, you are basically just an extra load on the server.


I have the feeling that you are too dumb for this game. It is... just a feeling.


Might be true, care to elaborate?
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#71 - 2014-03-27 12:44:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Sable Moran
There's a very easy solution to OP's problem. Pay with a credit card, pay pal or some other 'real' currency.

The fact that one pays their game time with PLEX is just plain bad, it puts such a burden (to make ISK) on you that it sucks all enjoyment out of the game.

For goodness sake it's only 50 cents per day, can't you really not afford to pay that much? And before you answer, I was a poor student once too, I know what being poor is like. But even then I could afford to put the equivalent of 15 euros on amusement once or twice a month if I wanted.

Edit: Consider it this way, how long IRL it takes you to make 15 euros? How long it takes you to make 750 million ISK in-game? If the latter is a significantly longer period of time it should be eminently clear how to pay your subscription.

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Good Posting
Doomheim
#72 - 2014-03-27 12:45:54 UTC
Ren Coursa wrote:
Good Posting wrote:
Ren Coursa wrote:


You are not a paying customer as far as ccp is concerned, you are basically just an extra load on the server.


I have the feeling that you are too dumb for this game. It is... just a feeling.


Might be true, care to elaborate?


Paying customers for ccp are subbed accounts with real money, or plexed with isk. Like it or not..
Besides, when i plex my account, someone already paid for it.
l0rd carlos
the king asked me to guard the mountain
#73 - 2014-03-27 13:15:23 UTC
Ren Coursa wrote:
Good Posting wrote:
Ren Coursa wrote:


You are not a paying customer as far as ccp is concerned, you are basically just an extra load on the server.


I have the feeling that you are too dumb for this game. It is... just a feeling.


Might be true, care to elaborate?


If you have a subscription you pay real money to CCP.
If you buy a plex, someone bought it with real money.

Either way CCP gets real money.

If you have a multimedia account, than CCP does not get any money. But for that you have to work a bit in order to get it.

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Tyburn Stannis
Xenon Salvage Inc.
#74 - 2014-03-27 13:17:09 UTC
Sable Moran wrote:
Edit: Consider it this way, how long IRL it takes you to make 15 euros? How long it takes you to make 750 million ISK in-game? If the latter is a significantly longer period of time it should be eminently clear how to pay your subscription.


This. A thousand times this.

If you make enough ISK to plex your account whist doing other things in game you already enjoy, rock on. But if you're sitting there for hours and hours on end doing stuff you don't like but "have to do" to make ISK to get Plex... then in the words of the internet, ur doin' it wrong,

o/
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2014-03-27 13:19:59 UTC
Good Posting wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Desimus Maximus wrote:

If 750 happens I will skill out my remaining time and will not return until PLEX has returned to normalcy... reasonable levels.



Im not buying anymore Ferraris until they reduce the price to what I want to pay



EVE isn't a ferrari. It is a flock of whiners and scrub lords

You really don't do your name justice..Sad

I disagree
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#76 - 2014-03-27 13:20:15 UTC
Desimus Maximus wrote:
When PLEX hits 750m per, I'm done. You may as well just remove it from the game and make subscription the only model.

It is a subscription-only model. The question is, how much are you willing to do for another person to pay your subscription? Apparently, its a sellers market.

Quote:
Nothing can be accomplished in-game on a casual schedule to PLEX anymore. Incursions, ratting, mining, missions. Feels like it is becoming a full-time job just to break even without really progressing.


There's one really good way to make it no longer feel like that.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.
Good Posting
Doomheim
#77 - 2014-03-27 13:21:00 UTC
Justice is irrelevant in eve, and in real life.
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#78 - 2014-03-27 13:21:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Slade Trillgon
Tippia wrote:
Slade Trillgon wrote:
Other than the fact you 'can' play for free, via utilizing in game currency to pay for plex paid for by others cash, and that you can pay real life cash for plex and aurum, you are totally correct.

Just because you can get your subscription paid without you opening your wallet does not mean the game is free-to-play. It's still a pay-to-play subscription game, only with a mechanism to let others pay for your subscription.

PLEX is a good, not a currency, and AUR is a currency in name only since it can't really be transferred or exchanged, or used to buy any of the regular goods and services you'd expect from a working currency… but again, that's mainly a failure of implementation. The best you can do is get transfer vehicles that can be exchanged with others, but which themselves can't be used as currency.


I may have oversimplified things. CCP was trying to move towards a 'free to play' structure. Free to play games make their money because they control one form of currency that is only used for specific things in game. So if you want to take advantage of those areas you must either shell out cash or use the in game generated currency to purchase the 'other currency'. Yes EvE is not a true free to play game, but CCP is using that model and does control two forms of codes that can only be purchased out of game. One of those is used in the exact way that free to plays use their currecny, other than the items you can purchase in EvE do not affect the game play. Hence why I said it looks like CCP is succeeding in what they wanted to try to do after the golden ammo incident; increase their revenue via a developer controlled commodity.
flakeys
Doomheim
#79 - 2014-03-27 13:25:46 UTC
Desimus Maximus wrote:
Dear CCP,

When PLEX hits 750m per, I'm done. You may as well just remove it from the game and make subscription the only model.

Nothing can be accomplished in-game on a casual schedule to PLEX anymore. Incursions, ratting, mining, missions. Feels like it is becoming a full-time job just to break even without really progressing.If 750 happens I will skill out my remaining time and will not return until PLEX has returned to normalcy... reasonable levels.



Oh but there is one thing that can get that done on a casual schedule though it's not on your list ... trading Lol .

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#80 - 2014-03-27 13:27:42 UTC
Slade Trillgon wrote:
I may have oversimplified things. CCP was trying to move towards a 'free to play' structure. Free to play games make their money because they control one form of currency that is only used for specific things in game.


No, they weren't. That's just wrong.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.