EVE General Discussion

Playing for free is a privilege, not a right. If plex price go higher then you are willing to pay, don't buy them.

ITT: a ton of entitled poor people, get a job scrubs!

can't get better isk/hr then that.

Why oh why am i between Credit cards right now.

In fact i don't really understand paying isk for plex. I am glad people do it, so i can sell plex when i can't be bothered doing isk earning activities. But its really poor value for time.

The fact is as said CCP have NO influence on Plex prices.. Its completely player controlled.

If CCP put a Max ISK cost on Plex it would be basically fix £ to ISK trading and you would likely find less and less plex being available.

Look at it like this, Plex sell @400mil ISK SOME eve players buy them for £££ and sell but the ISK return is not really worth their £16.. Plex market still under supplied. General Eve Players buy as many as possible and store them

Plex at 700mil ISK, more players think ohhh better isk value for my £16, extra Plex come to market, but Plex market is still under supplied. Rich EvE Players buy as many as possible and store them.

Plex at 1bil ISK, many eve players like the ISK to £££ ratio and more Plex come to market, rich Eve Players sell their stored Plex and all profit. IF supply is meeting demand the costs start to drop.

Now the above does not really factor in the following;

• The MEGA rich ISK players making billions upon billion of ISK a week buying multiple plex and storing them, likely for top members of alliances etc these are getting used some are stored and speculated upon.

• The natural inflation of eve, there is nothing really deflating the eve economy so its in constant inflation, a perpetual cycle of increasing costs, because of more and more ISK in the economy.

So in conclusion Plex will always be on a upward trend for costs with the odd blip and lowing on cyclic intervals but never returning to the original lowest prices at the start of the cycle. The hamster wheel is forever turning you just gotta keep up!

Bought a batch earlier today on a buy order at Hek for 672 mill though I think the Hek buy has since snuck up to 680 mill. Thats still 28 mill under Jita sell.


Seriously folks, if you are buying PLEX to sub with instead of as a speculation you have a full month to shop around and place buy orders. Why on earth would you pick them up at market sell at the most expensive hub in EVE.

Personally I am expecting PLEX to eventually settle just under a billion.

Even non super rich players (like me!) bought PLEX as a hedge against inflation. If you have a few billion ISK just sitting in your wallet, you might as well convert your ISK into PLEX until you need to spend it. Since PLEX have consistently trended upwards, or at worst temporarily plateaued, since they were introduced, it's a very low risk, low effort strategy.

It's basically the nearest EVE equivalent of a savings account, since your investment is backed by a real asset.

One of the few smart moves I ever made with my ISK was to buy 28 PLEX at 300M back in 2011. I used some of them and sold most at 500M or more when I started flying nice ships again. I still have a couple left just in case.

Just in case the implication of that isn't entirely clear, that means that people like me - not mega rich, just with some liquid ISK - buy PLEX not to use for subs but as a "reserve currency". Naturally this puts a lot of upward pressure on prices, because lots of players want a safe, easy way to protect the value of their wallets.

The US dollar has enjoyed a similar effect in the real world.

7 minute tpph?

brb petitioning ccp about your hacking!

Also they could make ship skins and other cool random non game breakers cost raw isk, instead of plex/aur, to create isk sinks. Currently there is no real isk sink except basic destruction via combat or self destruct. taxes and other such (npc taxes) are so small they dont warrant mention. Aside from that you might put some meager pocket change on a clone update, or insure a ship. Aside from the odd titan losses. most pvp ship kills arent that big a deal. cruisers, battleships and such? 4-5 incursion sites worth at best. Granted theres rarely more than 5 fleets of 40 up in hq's due to community numbers and time zones.

Want to balance eve inflation? adding more plex for services isnt the way, just just means more raw, already in existance isk moves from 1 player, to another but stays in the game, changing nothing.

add awesome things into the game that cost isk which is destroyed upon transaction. target the raw isk directly. NPC vendors selling random vanity services and/or ship skins

no tcrcs or even nrfs

Ship distruction is not a global ISK sink.
It's the opposite because no money leaves the game, but money enters the game out of nowhere from the insurance.