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Well, seeing that CCP is runing into financial problems and that technically there should be no harm in doing this, I support this

How about unlink plex from everything, Aurum/character transfer/etc, and remove them from market. CCP has done nothing but interfere and screw with game time, stop linking it to crap.

Supported

To expand on something I posted earlier, since this thread has been necro'd:

I'd love to be able to release some of my skill points to remap for something I'm actually using. A lot of people made mistakes early on and wasted a lot of SP figuring out just what we wanted to do in Eve. For those of us who have only been around 1-3 years, this can represent a rather large percentage of our skill points. For someone with 20-30 million SP, 2 million makes a big difference. Examples.

If I want to train a new turret system to level 4 specialization (for T2 guns):

Small: 390,600 SP
Medium: 994,410 SP (1,385,010 total)
Large: 1,641,690 SP (3,026,700 total)

With a proper mapping and +4 implants, this will require over 48 days of training.

Training for a new racial battleship is 678,600 SP, taking 11 days.

any given race's Cruiser 5 is 1,054,440 SP, requiring almost 17 days.

This puts a typical player at needing to spend 2-3 months training to be able to fly a new battleship or T3 with T2 weapons. For someone who has been playing for less than two years, that's a lot of waiting. Meanwhile, all the rookie mistakes we made with skills are sitting there being useless.

I've made it this far without being able to do these things and don't care whether it's implemented or not, but I don't consider this game-breaking if it's done. I would certainly take a couple of PLEX out of circulation in order to regain those wasted SP.

The issue in your logic is that you assume the rookies understand the game as well as the older players. Rookies rarely actually understand most of the core philosophies of Eve. They are still expecting Eve to be a cookie cutter MMO like all the other ones they've played.

But Eve is a dark and dangerous place where there are consequences to your actions. Older players usually appreciate that part of the Eve design philosophy and don't want to throw that away simply because some noobs feel like it should be easier.

Selfishness? Your wanting an Real Money solution to a problem concerning the choices you make in game.

Learn to live with them or get out...its that simple.

No, no, a thousand times NO.

Pay to win mechanics are not what we as a general player base want in EVE, and as such this idea has been denied time and time again. I won't waste time belittling you because, regardless of your idea, the post you wrote was well done and expresses your opinion thoughtfully.

I support this. it gives greater flexibility, and if someone feells like paying CCP over9000$ to save a couple days of training, i ave no problem with that.
And about the meaningful choice- you still have consequence, it hurts your wallet. Most of eve boils down to that anyway.

how is that currently not the case? with more money you can buy better fittings, pay more mercs, offer head money for ganks of competitors or pay for "protection money" to gain easy access to farming grounds. there is no limit how much real money you can inject into the game to get isk to do so.

also, with real money you can just buy an/some account(s) having some 80mil SP (each) first place.

besides providing another isk sink for CCP, i do not see the problem, if the cost for another remap was made proportional to the currently applied SP - please comment on that. thus rookie mistakes could be remedied rather cheaply while wanting an extra remap at 80mil SP may cost you say 10 plex. i bet you would think twice and rather wait for the 10 days you might have possibly saved.

I'd suggest that you're more likely right in one respect; and that would be those training up alts for botting. In no way is it remotely productive to pay4plex or ISK4plex to train a character for resale. Anyone doing so would have to be half a fart short of a full load.

~$20-30 per plex and $20 transfer fee for a slight reduction in training time that could not already be had-within normal perameters-by starting remaps? Effectively it takes potentially months to train up a character for sale under current mechanics, and all for a net gain of maybe 2-3 billion ISK. Anyone forking out 600 million to remap during that period-for the same eventual value-is out of their freakin' minds.

Ideally, in order to retain value, you have to start your mapping with exact attributes for the build, then not spend the extra remaps on top of not playing the character to avoid affecting in-game standings with Corps and Players. Essentially, the most valuable Toon is an unknown with little or no impact on the game, for all his/her training. An empty book.

So no, PLEX remaps on a toon is stupid, when you're considering training for resale. Training for resale is also in a rather poor state in the last year, as the end-value is not worth the-paid-months it takes to train them. Old and current PLEX prices considered.

5 months @ $15 a month + $20 Character transfer = $95 + whatever your times worth. Not sure what that will get you in resaleable PLEX from CCP right now; but I'm sure it's more than the potentially 1-2 billion ISK the Toon will sell at depending on market.