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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#41 - 2014-03-26 19:28:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
baltec1 wrote:
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
Which forces, specifically? just Eve pod pilots? I might give it to voyager era starfleet, depending on the lore numbers of pod pilots.

The entirety of eve forces vs. starfleet, or even starfleet+klingon empire+romulans? Eve.... Eve so hard.

If it's lore versus lore power mortal projection, eve wins. If you assume that Q would come to the aid of Star Trek stuff, they win.

The answer is, it depends entirely on how its framed. The fact Star Trek has God-like beings capable of bending the rules of the universe on a whim means that in an absolute struggle of universe vs. universe that star trek wins by deus ex machina


Dont forget the other much more powerful gods they have.

Plot devices.

Plot devices have no power here(in the sand box)!
Mwahahahah!

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BrundleMeth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#42 - 2014-03-26 19:39:58 UTC
Jackson Dom wrote:
The federation weapons would be useless if Ewars are widely used.
I don't think star trek has the solution for that

Yes they do....

They would throw a thousand horny Tribbles and they would start humping everyones leg...
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
#43 - 2014-03-26 19:43:22 UTC
Sentinel zx
#44 - 2014-03-26 19:46:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Sentinel zx
and don´t forget ST got cloaked Self-replicating mines Twisted

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Self-replicating_mine
Qalix
Long Jump.
#45 - 2014-03-26 20:02:45 UTC
Everyone seems to be assuming that various types of EWAR would actually work vs a Star Fleet ship. Whenever they "lock" a ship, there is no delay and it doesn't require anything in particular to accomplish the task. I don't EWAR would work against them.

The Enterprise doesn't have to deal with scan resolution, tracking, or any of those things. They don't use lasers and they don't have turrets. They don't need any kind of ammunition and even if they did, they can create it with replicators.

But more to the point, a cloaked star fleet vessel could transport boarding parties onto the other ships (eve shields don't work the same as star fleet ones; you can freely loot cans or dock ships with the "shields up" in eve, so they don't keep things out quite the same as in Star Trek). One shot into the pod assembly and it's all over for an EVE capsuleer. Plus, they could take the extra step of disabling communications and prevent the pod pilot from transferring his conciousness into his clone.

silly comparison overall though.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#46 - 2014-03-26 20:05:05 UTC
Qalix wrote:
Everyone seems to be assuming that various types of EWAR would actually work vs a Star Fleet ship. Whenever they "lock" a ship, there is no delay and it doesn't require anything in particular to accomplish the task. I don't EWAR would work against them.

The Enterprise doesn't have to deal with scan resolution, tracking, or any of those things. They don't use lasers and they don't have turrets. They don't need any kind of ammunition and even if they did, they can create it with replicators.

But more to the point, a cloaked star fleet vessel could transport boarding parties onto the other ships (eve shields don't work the same as star fleet ones; you can freely loot cans or dock ships with the "shields up" in eve, so they don't keep things out quite the same as in Star Trek). One shot into the pod assembly and it's all over for an EVE capsuleer. Plus, they could take the extra step of disabling communications and prevent the pod pilot from transferring his conciousness into his clone.

silly comparison overall though.


EVE tech is several thousand years more advancedBlink
Qalix
Long Jump.
#47 - 2014-03-26 20:09:17 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Qalix wrote:
Everyone seems to be assuming that various types of EWAR would actually work vs a Star Fleet ship. Whenever they "lock" a ship, there is no delay and it doesn't require anything in particular to accomplish the task. I don't EWAR would work against them.

The Enterprise doesn't have to deal with scan resolution, tracking, or any of those things. They don't use lasers and they don't have turrets. They don't need any kind of ammunition and even if they did, they can create it with replicators.

But more to the point, a cloaked star fleet vessel could transport boarding parties onto the other ships (eve shields don't work the same as star fleet ones; you can freely loot cans or dock ships with the "shields up" in eve, so they don't keep things out quite the same as in Star Trek). One shot into the pod assembly and it's all over for an EVE capsuleer. Plus, they could take the extra step of disabling communications and prevent the pod pilot from transferring his conciousness into his clone.

silly comparison overall though.


EVE tech is several thousand years more advancedBlink

And yet they don't have transporters or replicators...

Mr. Worf, would you please go to the hangar, activate a photon torpedo, and then beam it onto the bridge next to the pod assembly please?

Yes, sir. The pod assembly is vaporised sir.

Tea, anyone?
Recury en Distel
en Distel Family
#48 - 2014-03-26 20:09:30 UTC
Jackson Dom wrote:
The federation weapons would be useless if Ewars are widely used.
I don't think star trek has the solution for that


Just "compensate" or match some harmonic frequencies or whatever, easy.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#49 - 2014-03-26 20:12:47 UTC
Qalix wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Qalix wrote:
Everyone seems to be assuming that various types of EWAR would actually work vs a Star Fleet ship. Whenever they "lock" a ship, there is no delay and it doesn't require anything in particular to accomplish the task. I don't EWAR would work against them.

The Enterprise doesn't have to deal with scan resolution, tracking, or any of those things. They don't use lasers and they don't have turrets. They don't need any kind of ammunition and even if they did, they can create it with replicators.

But more to the point, a cloaked star fleet vessel could transport boarding parties onto the other ships (eve shields don't work the same as star fleet ones; you can freely loot cans or dock ships with the "shields up" in eve, so they don't keep things out quite the same as in Star Trek). One shot into the pod assembly and it's all over for an EVE capsuleer. Plus, they could take the extra step of disabling communications and prevent the pod pilot from transferring his conciousness into his clone.

silly comparison overall though.


EVE tech is several thousand years more advancedBlink

And yet they don't have transporters or replicators...

Mr. Worf, would you please go to the hangar, activate a photon torpedo, and then beam it onto the bridge next to the pod assembly please?

Yes, sir. The pod assembly is vaporised sir.

Tea, anyone?

Dude, hacking nets a permaban. Same as breaking the 4th wall will get you ejected pretty quickly.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#50 - 2014-03-26 20:12:56 UTC
Qalix wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Qalix wrote:
Everyone seems to be assuming that various types of EWAR would actually work vs a Star Fleet ship. Whenever they "lock" a ship, there is no delay and it doesn't require anything in particular to accomplish the task. I don't EWAR would work against them.

The Enterprise doesn't have to deal with scan resolution, tracking, or any of those things. They don't use lasers and they don't have turrets. They don't need any kind of ammunition and even if they did, they can create it with replicators.

But more to the point, a cloaked star fleet vessel could transport boarding parties onto the other ships (eve shields don't work the same as star fleet ones; you can freely loot cans or dock ships with the "shields up" in eve, so they don't keep things out quite the same as in Star Trek). One shot into the pod assembly and it's all over for an EVE capsuleer. Plus, they could take the extra step of disabling communications and prevent the pod pilot from transferring his conciousness into his clone.

silly comparison overall though.


EVE tech is several thousand years more advancedBlink

And yet they don't have transporters or replicators...

Mr. Worf, would you please go to the hangar, activate a photon torpedo, and then beam it onto the bridge next to the pod assembly please?

Yes, sir. The pod assembly is vaporised sir.

Tea, anyone?



Anybody remember that creepy DS9 episode when a deranged Vulcan was using a sniper rifle that could transport it's view pane to a target and transport the bullet through walls to it?


Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#51 - 2014-03-26 20:16:38 UTC
Just beam one photon granade to the capsule or in the engines and destroy the ship from large distance. Roll

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
#52 - 2014-03-26 20:16:52 UTC
I don't think EVE weapons would even scratch the shields of ST ships. As someone pointed out, just the navigational deflectors are strong enough to stop lasers. Minnies still use bullets, FFS, which should also be stopped by navigational deflectors, much less full shields. Star Trek ships have little difficulty tracking and destroying small targets such as missiles, fighters, and drones. Maybe blasters could do some damage, if you could get close enough (which is doubtful).
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#53 - 2014-03-26 20:19:36 UTC
Qalix wrote:

And yet they don't have transporters or replicators...

Mr. Worf, would you please go to the hangar, activate a photon torpedo, and then beam it onto the bridge next to the pod assembly please?

Yes, sir. The pod assembly is vaporised sir.

Tea, anyone?


We figured out how to be immortal and transport our minds 50,000 lightyears across space into another body instantly.


Also our space is a liquid, teleporters most likely dont work and we build a ship in hours while it takes them years.
Qalix
Long Jump.
#54 - 2014-03-26 20:44:23 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Qalix wrote:

And yet they don't have transporters or replicators...

Mr. Worf, would you please go to the hangar, activate a photon torpedo, and then beam it onto the bridge next to the pod assembly please?

Yes, sir. The pod assembly is vaporised sir.

Tea, anyone?


We figured out how to be immortal and transport our minds 50,000 lightyears across space into another body instantly.


Also our space is a liquid, teleporters most likely dont work and we build a ship in hours while it takes them years.

I'm certain that Mr. Data and Geordi could make it work. All they need to do is [TECH] the [TECH] with a [TECH], adjust the [TECH] to modulate the [TECH] and generate a subspace [TECH] to create a [TECH]. Simple.


*http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TechnoBabble
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2014-03-26 20:52:40 UTC
OH HAY WHO WOULD WIN MIGHTY MOUSE OR SUPERMAN?


TRICK QUESTION!
MIGHTY MOUSE IS JUST A CARTOON CHARACTER
NOT A REAL PERSON!!


NERDS




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Sevendeadly Sins
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2014-03-26 23:56:43 UTC
http://forums.spacebattles.com/forums/vs-debates.4/
Go bother someone else, boy.

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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#57 - 2014-03-27 00:41:19 UTC
Star Trek would win because they can tackle and engage from off grid.

Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.

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Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#58 - 2014-03-27 00:50:02 UTC
Trekkies would lose because they would all get scammed in Jita.

Bear

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
GreenSeed
#59 - 2014-03-27 00:56:11 UTC
Cavalira wrote:
This is pretty autistic. Oh well :GD:

come take a walk on the sperg side, you know you want to.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#60 - 2014-03-27 01:16:19 UTC
Qalix wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Qalix wrote:

And yet they don't have transporters or replicators...

Mr. Worf, would you please go to the hangar, activate a photon torpedo, and then beam it onto the bridge next to the pod assembly please?

Yes, sir. The pod assembly is vaporised sir.

Tea, anyone?


We figured out how to be immortal and transport our minds 50,000 lightyears across space into another body instantly.


Also our space is a liquid, teleporters most likely dont work and we build a ship in hours while it takes them years.

I'm certain that Mr. Data and Geordi could make it work. All they need to do is [TECH] the [TECH] with a [TECH], adjust the [TECH] to modulate the [TECH] and generate a subspace [TECH] to create a [TECH]. Simple.


*http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TechnoBabble


Damn plot devices.

This is all pointless anyway because 40k would come along and just grimdark everyone.