Crime & Punishment

Yeah... the alliance has 6 corps that stay in it... all 6 corps have a single member that never undocks.

So.. what did you shoot at exactly?

Lois: "Well sure meg just be sure to practice safe se... HAHAHHA LIAR!!"

Just to point out the most common illogical arguments and statements to save further people some time.

"We will just re-wardec them, HAHAHAHA" - You can't.. not until server downtime even if you use another corp. You have to wait until the war is over or the next downtime, at which point you will declare another war, they will have 24 hours to join the alliance and invalidate it again. The timers do line up as he says they do.

"Fine, transfer us to the alliance, then we can kill all the corps, HAHAHAHAHAHA" - Nope. The corp that joins the alliance immediately leaves, so you can't attack your original targets. There are 6 corps in the alliance who stay, and they are all single player corps run by the same person so that corps that do join cannot vote for alliance control and disband it. In other words... you would be lucky to have a brief chance to kill a corp within the alliance that is an actual functioning corp before they leave after their war is transfered. The 6 stationary corps do not undock... good luck killing them.

"You are cowards!!!!" You are fighting in hi-sec against noncombatants. Bassically you are punching babies at an unattended daycare with no cameras.

"Hi-sec combat should be allowed!!" It is... you can fight against anyone who does not mind the war dec, like a corp that enjoys PVP and also does not want to deal with lo-sec, so you can have a nice organized peaceful war that others cannot interfere with.

"Hi-sec combat should be allowed without people running from it by choice!!!" It is... suicide gank us. You can take out my retriever with a well equipped thrasher easily... very little investment. Doing something harmful to someone without their consent has consequences... welcome to reality, asshat.

"I'm an idiot!" This is the one argument you can make that i will agree with if you want to say this is all a bad thing. By saying this, your opinion of this being a horrible thing is a valid opinion based on the argument that you are an idiot, and therefore it is an opinion of an idiot. As long as this is your primary argument for supporting your opinion, then we can all agree on it.

Why not just make a perma solution to this?

Create enough alt corps to Dec the alliance and make them mutual, so no fee is paid. Isn't there a limit to how many war decs can be held against one group?

Once you have the maximum number of alt war decs on. You then just accept anyone into the alliance, under your blanket of protection? They will still show as being war decced. but they will be war decced by characters minutes old that will never log on never mind undock.

lol when I read this I was thinking the same thing, but I held my tongue.

Hmm....

I hate explaining things to people since it makes them look like a ******.

We had a war with a corp that joined DEC SHIELD and surrendered, we just kept it running till the end with DEC Shield.... each corp that joined for "DEC Protection" and surrendered gave us a 24 peroid to shoot at them when they surrendered.

It's not that hard to figure out or see how that works...

Sooo.... catch a wake up.

You got it Tiger...

Never be ashamed of what you do... Just be ashamed if you don't do what is in your nature.

In fact.. let's postpone our argument of what a nice fella you are or whether you should be ashamed for being an ass or not and just look at that....


CCP has no real rules against harrassment as long as your character is a month old, even though the federal law of MANY countries has laws against harrassment online that INCLUDES singling someone out in an online video game. Most gaming companies are at least smart enough to parrot those laws as their own harrassment policy to avoid any potential legal issues within their game.

They have no rules defining what "griefing" is.. using the lore of a game and in-game excuses to permit people to grief each other as humans vs. other humans in a COMPLETELY out of game context. In other words... I could find out you were gay in real life, hate you for it, and spend the next 5 years of gameplay doing nothing but harrassing you in game because I do not like what you are out of game, making it a clear griefing issue (which would be protected by the laws I mentioned earlier)

No no... all of this is fine... all of this is okay.

But we cannot say Adolf's last name. (In case we can't say his first name... it sounds like "Adolph".. oh and the last name starts with "hit" and ends with "ler".

No no... that's unacceptable.

Hello Cannibal Kane,

Thanks for declaring war on the first player owned corporation I joined. I soon realized that my care bear ass needed to stay in a NPC corporation. The path I have taken in the universe can be directly contributed to your actions and it was for the best.

That brings back memories... being outnumbered 20 to 1. Your 2005 players did put up a valiant effort though, you deserved atleast one kill in that war but got none. Don't regress though... joining a proper corp will make a vast difference.

As a player constantly under bombardment from greifers and players who think they can crowbar my corp into thier alliances because we can't defend ourselves, I whole heartedly support this! I do whatever I need to do, to allow my corp to survive, end of story!

GOOD WORK ZERG!