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Cancelled 1 subscription in protest over cyber-bullying

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LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#101 - 2014-03-25 23:27:47 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:


No I think I would rather change EVE for the better and force trash out instead.


You see, referring to other players as "trash" is not going to get you very far. It's hard to seem like the "good guy" when you are hurling insults around.


I dont consider sadists like E1 'players'. I consider them trash, worst kind of people that take pleasure in abusing others.

Never said i was a perfect white knight. I am a normal guy who is outraged about this ****, and who has strong opinions. My opinions are colored by own life experiences - I have seen bullying like this in high school. I KNOW what it does to people. And I know that a line was crossed.

So yes, trash.

Simple as that.

Dont like it? Side with the sadists. There is really no middle ground here.
djentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#102 - 2014-03-25 23:31:35 UTC  |  Edited by: DJentropy Ovaert
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:


I dont consider sadists like E1 'players'. I consider them trash, worst kind of people that take pleasure in abusing others.

Never said i was a perfect white knight. I am a normal guy who is outraged about this ****, and who has strong opinions. My opinions are colored by own life experiences - I have seen bullying like this in high school. I KNOW what it does to people. And I know that a line was crossed.

So yes, trash.

Simple as that.

Dont like it? Side with the sadists. There is really no middle ground here.


Wait.

What line was crossed? Who was "bullied"? You're not providing any details and it makes it difficult for anyone to sympathize with your position. In a nutshell, all we have to go with is that you personally have decided that some EVE players are "trash", you are outraged about "****", you are quitting the game (but are still here), and that some "line was crossed". Are you the dude in the TS recording that is going around?

I'm not siding with anyone, nor defending anyone's actions. I'm just asking for you to provide some details and start making sense.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#103 - 2014-03-25 23:35:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Link

This is CCP's attitude to RL bullying in their game. Using a public forum to mock and humiliate players both in game actions and out of game circumstances.

Taking a private communication and broadcasting it to an entire public audience by putting it on a projector. Not only a breach of privacy but a breach of law.

CCP is very lucky that didn't escalate, the guy didn't self harm and they didn't get sued.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#104 - 2014-03-25 23:35:31 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:


I dont consider sadists like E1 'players'. I consider them trash, worst kind of people that take pleasure in abusing others.

Never said i was a perfect white knight. I am a normal guy who is outraged about this ****, and who has strong opinions. My opinions are colored by own life experiences - I have seen bullying like this in high school. I KNOW what it does to people. And I know that a line was crossed.

So yes, trash.

Simple as that.

Dont like it? Side with the sadists. There is really no middle ground here.


Wait.

What line was crossed? Who was "bullied"? You're not providing any details and it makes it difficult for anyone to sympathize with your position. In a nutshell, all we have to go with is that you personally have decided that some EVE players are "trash", you are outraged about "****", you are quitting the game (but are still here), and that some "line was crossed". Are you the dude in the TS recording that is going around?

I'm not siding with anyone, nor defending anyone's actions. I'm just asking for you to provide some details and start making sense.


Are you not following the 65+ page thread tied for top spot with this one? The basis for Luminous' grievance is no secret.
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#105 - 2014-03-25 23:37:13 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Link

This is CCP's attitude to RL bullying in their game. Using a public forum to mock and humiliate players both in game actions and out of game circumstances.

Taking a private communication and broadcasting it to an entire public audience by putting it on a projector. Not only a breach of privacy but a breach of law.

CCP is very lucky that didn't escalate, the guy didn't self harm and they didn't get sued.



Kind of puts this in perspective eh.
One Eyed Runner
GetYaTitsOut
#106 - 2014-03-25 23:38:42 UTC
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:

C'mon people, scamming is allowed, has always been allowed.



It's not the scamming it's the Teamspeak recording.

I agree that the victim was not the sharpest knife out there but it's same like abusing autistic person and upload it on youtube for giggles.


did he/she give permission to be recorded? in USA if he didn't that is against the law in most states...just sayin

I live in Jita so f*ck off
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#107 - 2014-03-25 23:39:06 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Link

This is CCP's attitude to RL bullying in their game. Using a public forum to mock and humiliate players both in game actions and out of game circumstances.

Taking a private communication and broadcasting it to an entire public audience by putting it on a projector. Not only a breach of privacy but a breach of law.

CCP is very lucky that didn't escalate, the guy didn't self harm and they didn't get sued.



Kind of puts this in perspective eh.

Very. Its outright disgusting behavior by a major game company towards its playebase. Shameful.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
One Eyed Runner
GetYaTitsOut
#108 - 2014-03-25 23:43:57 UTC  |  Edited by: One Eyed Runner
Feyth Yinleq wrote:
I am waiting for an answer from CCP to my ticket on this matter.

If nothing moves, I will join the club and cancel my 2 accounts definitely.



has 6 accounts, will see what happens then decide

just cancelled 4 accounts, now will wait

I live in Jita so f*ck off
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#109 - 2014-03-25 23:45:50 UTC
One Eyed Runner wrote:
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:

C'mon people, scamming is allowed, has always been allowed.



It's not the scamming it's the Teamspeak recording.

I agree that the victim was not the sharpest knife out there but it's same like abusing autistic person and upload it on youtube for giggles.


did he/she give permission to be recorded? in USA if he didn't that is against the law in most states...just sayin


You are playing an icelandic game with people from all over the planet.
Jim Era
#110 - 2014-03-25 23:49:52 UTC
This thread makes me want to sub another account that I would never use.

Wat™
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#111 - 2014-03-25 23:56:11 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:


I dont consider sadists like E1 'players'. I consider them trash, worst kind of people that take pleasure in abusing others.

Never said i was a perfect white knight. I am a normal guy who is outraged about this ****, and who has strong opinions. My opinions are colored by own life experiences - I have seen bullying like this in high school. I KNOW what it does to people. And I know that a line was crossed.

So yes, trash.

Simple as that.

Dont like it? Side with the sadists. There is really no middle ground here.


Wait.

What line was crossed? Who was "bullied"? You're not providing any details and it makes it difficult for anyone to sympathize with your position. In a nutshell, all we have to go with is that you personally have decided that some EVE players are "trash", you are outraged about "****", you are quitting the game (but are still here), and that some "line was crossed". Are you the dude in the TS recording that is going around?

I'm not siding with anyone, nor defending anyone's actions. I'm just asking for you to provide some details and start making sense.


Details can be found here:

http://evenews24.com/2014/03/25/jesters-trek-the-bonus-round/

I've got no problems with scamming, not that I would ever do such a thing being a member of the Honourable space guild goonswarm federation. But even this came off as a bit creepy.
Brock Nelson
#112 - 2014-03-26 00:00:10 UTC
http://i.imgur.com/z4WYDTf.jpg

Signature removed, CCP Phantom
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#113 - 2014-03-26 00:00:47 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
One Eyed Runner wrote:
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:

C'mon people, scamming is allowed, has always been allowed.



It's not the scamming it's the Teamspeak recording.

I agree that the victim was not the sharpest knife out there but it's same like abusing autistic person and upload it on youtube for giggles.


did he/she give permission to be recorded? in USA if he didn't that is against the law in most states...just sayin


You are playing an icelandic game with people from all over the planet.

"Art. 229 Anyone officially disclosing the private affairs of another without sufficient reasons being at hand to justify the act shall be subject to fines or [imprisonment] 1) for up to 1 year."
General Penal Code, Act No. 19 of 12 February 1940
Link

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#114 - 2014-03-26 00:04:49 UTC
Well, i am doing what I can to spread the news.

Sent TL:DR to my corp, news outlets like CNN.

Need more bodies to volunteer though. Stand up and be counted!
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#115 - 2014-03-26 00:05:32 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
I cancelled 1 money-paying subscription in protest over CCP's toleration of cyber-bullying and sociopathic behavior that crosses the line.

Yes I am talking about Erotica 1 and others like him.

I encourage others to cancel their alts as well to force CCP to clean up some of the worst aspects of EVE.

Enough is enough. There are limits. Cyber-bullying has no place in this game, or anywhere else.

If enough of us cancel our third of fourth alts for a month of two, CCP will act and clean up the community.


CANCEL SUBSCRIPTIONS UNTIL CCP ACTS.


So you are attempting to bully ccp into seeing things your way.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
Anslo
Scope Works
#116 - 2014-03-26 00:07:24 UTC
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
I cancelled 1 money-paying subscription in protest over CCP's toleration of cyber-bullying and sociopathic behavior that crosses the line.

Yes I am talking about Erotica 1 and others like him.

I encourage others to cancel their alts as well to force CCP to clean up some of the worst aspects of EVE.

Enough is enough. There are limits. Cyber-bullying has no place in this game, or anywhere else.

If enough of us cancel our third of fourth alts for a month of two, CCP will act and clean up the community.


CANCEL SUBSCRIPTIONS UNTIL CCP ACTS.


So you are attempting to bully ccp into seeing things your way.

Kinda like burn jita.

amirite?

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Moneta Curran
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#117 - 2014-03-26 00:09:09 UTC
I applaud your initiative and urge you to remove yourself from the game completely. You can contract all your stuff to me.
Navi Annages
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#118 - 2014-03-26 00:13:19 UTC
This game promotes Darwinism. I guess you and Sohkar are both just weak. Bye.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#119 - 2014-03-26 00:14:09 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Well, i am doing what I can to spread the news.

Sent TL:DR to my corp, news outlets like CNN.

Need more bodies to volunteer though. Stand up and be counted!


Just to point out. You are trying to get millions of people to see this guy make an arse of himself. How does this help?
Chaotix Morwen
Church Of BDSM
#120 - 2014-03-26 00:16:03 UTC
I personally love Erotica1s work (even though technically shes going against the new order code with her bot aspirant behaviour). Shes teaching players a valuable lesson, eve is full of sadistic, sociopathic freaks and they will do anything for a good ol laugh. I know, im one of them :P If your honestly foolish enough to pass over all of your assets etc. to some random person, without doing any sort of research then you deserve what your getting, id personally thank erotica1 for putting me through the ordeal of a bonus room if i was so thick to do it.

Eve isnt a place to be happy go lucky, its an arena of wit, where the dull and thick are put to the amusement of those with the capacity of forethought.

Additionally do you really think a couple of goody two shoes unsubbing their alts will really hurt CCP's profits? In fact if CCP bent to your will they would lose far more accounts from those who use every means to play the game than your alts...mind you i reckon us scumbags just use isk to buy our plex but still...