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Isboxer, why is it allowed?

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#441 - 2014-03-25 12:30:53 UTC
Whim Aqayn wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Whim Aqayn wrote:
Multiple accounts = Pay to win. There's no way around that no matter how much goons like to abuse it.


Because only goons have more than one account...

You're the most (the only?) vocal defenders of it.


So we should what? Ban people from having more than one account?
Whim Aqayn
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#442 - 2014-03-25 12:32:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Whim Aqayn
baltec1 wrote:
Whim Aqayn wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Whim Aqayn wrote:
Multiple accounts = Pay to win. There's no way around that no matter how much goons like to abuse it.


Because only goons have more than one account...

You're the most (the only?) vocal defenders of it.


So we should what? Ban people from having more than one account?


Banning people from using multiple accounts at once would be a start.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#443 - 2014-03-25 12:36:02 UTC
Whim Aqayn wrote:


Banning people from using multiple accounts at once would be a start.


You secretly work for NCsoft, don't you?

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#444 - 2014-03-25 12:37:18 UTC
Whim Aqayn wrote:

Banning people from using multiple accounts at once would be a start.


While it wasn't D.E. who said it, I still feel confident in saying that I called it.

Oh, and Whim Aqayn? Take a hike.

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One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Doomheim
#445 - 2014-03-25 12:38:09 UTC
Talking about isbox... i have a question and i don't think we need another thread, so here it goes.

I have only two accounts (main+falcon/logi) and i'm fine with alt tabbing but i would like to know if this program would make my eve life better. Probably this is a dumb question but i have no idea how isbox works.

I've been reading their site and i only find people using it with many accounts so i don't know if this would be appropriate for me.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#446 - 2014-03-25 12:39:53 UTC
Good Posting wrote:
Talking about isbox... i have a question and i don't think we need another thread, so here it goes.

I have only two accounts (main+falcon/logi) and i'm fine with alt tabbing but i would like to know if this program would make my eve life better. Probably this is a dumb question but i have no idea how isbox works.

I've been reading their site and i only find people using it with many accounts so i don't know if this would be appropriate for me.


I believe there is a tutorial for it on YouTube. I honestly do not know myself, I alt tab like a boss, because all I ever use my other accounts for is scouting, where ISBoxer doesn't really help.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
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Doomheim
#447 - 2014-03-25 12:45:43 UTC
Yeah, probably i don't need it. I will keep reading about this program tho. Thanks for the response.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#448 - 2014-03-25 12:50:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Nidal Fervor wrote:
Isboxer, why is it allowed?

To be blunt, because CCP haven't said otherwise. It's a tool, which can be used in both legitimate and illegitimate ways. Much like a hammer when used to drive a nail in is legitimate, when used to cave your skull in, is not.

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Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
#449 - 2014-03-25 12:50:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Belt Scout
Good Posting wrote:
Talking about isbox... i have a question and i don't think we need another thread, so here it goes.

I have only two accounts (main+falcon/logi) and i'm fine with alt tabbing but i would like to know if this program would make my eve life better. Probably this is a dumb question but i have no idea how isbox works.

I've been reading their site and i only find people using it with many accounts so i don't know if this would be appropriate for me.


With 2 accounts, i would say no. More so, with two accounts that do totally different things, then definitely no. ISBoxer is a tool to streamline the control of multiple ships that are doing the same thing. Lets say you had 8dps ships, 1 logi, and 1 salvager, then yes, ISB would be your new best buddy. Its a subscription based service ($15US for 90 days, or 50 bucks a year.), so setting it up for anything under 4 accounts probably isnt worth it. <<(my opinion anyway)

Its more than just a key action broadcaster however. From a video standpoint, you can manipulate your screens onto one larger monitor, large tv in my case, to put all the important info right in your line of site.

Watch the youtoob vids and the vids the dev has right on the ISB site.

o/

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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#450 - 2014-03-25 13:01:37 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:

I couldn't give a crap what the definition of automation is according to random people on the internet. Like most things, it varies. Ask a teenage boy and a father of a teenage girl what the definition of "too little clothing" is and you'll get vastly differing definitions.

we arent talking about your little pedophile world but about a scientific definition of a common term.

Lucas Kell wrote:

As CCP have stated, they do not allow automation involving clicks and key presses with no human source. They do allow key broadcasts. That is their choice to decide at what point they no longer consider it automation

sure, they allow automation tools of some kind, which they do for profit (as the only logical reason I see).
This is what I'm saying the whole time.
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Doomheim
#451 - 2014-03-25 13:01:51 UTC
Belt Scout wrote:
...


I really appreciate your response, very helpful!

o/
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#452 - 2014-03-25 13:07:45 UTC
Robert Caldera wrote:

sure, they allow automation tools of some kind, which they do for profit (as the only logical reason I see).
This is what I'm saying the whole time.


But there isn't any automation in isboxer. It wont do anything without a human there.
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#453 - 2014-03-25 13:09:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert Caldera
baltec1 wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:

sure, they allow automation tools of some kind, which they do for profit (as the only logical reason I see).
This is what I'm saying the whole time.


But there isn't any automation in isboxer. It wont do anything without a human there.


did I talk to you? no.
Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
#454 - 2014-03-25 13:13:05 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:

sure, they allow automation tools of some kind, which they do for profit (as the only logical reason I see).
This is what I'm saying the whole time.


But there isn't any automation in isboxer. It wont do anything without a human there.


Grrr Peeing into the wind.

Until some of these people understand the definition (5th grade Engrish) of the word "Automatic", then our efforts to shed them of their ignorance will continue to fall upon deaf ears.

They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.

**This IS my main so STFU.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#455 - 2014-03-25 13:18:56 UTC
Robert Caldera wrote:


did I talk to you? no.


Do I care?

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#456 - 2014-03-25 13:20:07 UTC
Robert Caldera wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:

sure, they allow automation tools of some kind, which they do for profit (as the only logical reason I see).
This is what I'm saying the whole time.


But there isn't any automation in isboxer. It wont do anything without a human there.


did I talk to you? no.



Did I talk to you? No, but I have to listen to your pedantry when I try and read the thread.

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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#457 - 2014-03-25 13:20:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert Caldera
Belt Scout wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:

sure, they allow automation tools of some kind, which they do for profit (as the only logical reason I see).
This is what I'm saying the whole time.


But there isn't any automation in isboxer. It wont do anything without a human there.


Grrr Peeing into the wind.

Until some of these people understand the definition (5th grade Engrish) of the word "Automatic", then our efforts to shed them of their ignorance will continue to fall upon deaf ears.


Maybe you should develop from your elementary school level use of language, automation is a wide scoped term and has nothing to do with "acting on its own" or implies any kind of AI - steering things under reduced human input or required workload by a software or machine falls into this category as well. Google it.
This is exact purpose people use isbox for.
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#458 - 2014-03-25 13:24:44 UTC
wah people are richer then me, wah people have better computers then me, wah people work harder at a game then me, wah people are better at internet spaceships then me, wah I cant afford isboxer, wah I cant afford more then 1 account


select the applicable above for this thread

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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#459 - 2014-03-25 13:28:56 UTC
Also mass ban of bots was pr stunt after we players complained and they figuring out that money don't go their way in case of isboxers it does.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#460 - 2014-03-25 13:32:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert Caldera
yeah banning botters was kinda PR thing, at least I simply cant take them serious anymore in this regard as they now allow isboxed fleets to run around eve doing all kind of things.