EVE General Discussion

I did not mean to suggest that you ask them.

IsBoxer is allowed for a very simple reason: CCP would be in deep trouble without it.
The amount of people that run multiple accounts, and a LOT of multiple accounts, is a big part of their sub base.

And if you look at the natural extension of the destruction of mining in high sec (yeah folks, the refine nerfs will hammer it, regardless of what the null sec cartel propagandists lie about here), plus the enormous gift to sov null sec mining, CCP WANTS people to run huge mining ops in null. You can be guaranteed that if you ever see massive mining fleets in the rental systems, they will be run by only a few people.

So without IsBoxer, CCP is really hammering itself.
Of course, these idiotic nerfs to high sec refining are going to hammer the subscription base, so I CCP has proven they don't seem to care much about income.

yep, the software does something, you should be doing. If you fly 5 ships you should click them all by yourself, but not automated by some tool, this is botting.


1 click for 20 accounts are technically 20 clicks - you click once, the tool replicates 19 other clicks for you automatically.



CCP draws the line at your money, this is.
Single account or not is pretty irrelevant for the term automation, where CCP draws the line of their EULA is not the question here.


this thread is not about you but isboxer, automation and CCPs greed.

Let me know one day when you're running a business of you're own, how that works out for you. Or, when you've learned to live without money. Until then, don't even pretend like CCP's greed is a thing worth discussing in comparison to easily more than 90% of other companies out there, or is anything near a factor here, because if it was, they wouldn't ban anything.

Part of maintaining a consistent income from a product like this is reputation. Reputation means they have to care about the players, even if they don't want to. There are just way too many mongs like you who blame everything 'wrong' a company does on them being greedy. If that was the case, and everything they did was STRICTLY for money, and no other reason at all, then most of those companies wouldn't have made it to where they are today.

Every time I see someone blame something they don't like about this game on 'CCP's greed' I know I'm reading the product of a mind that could never succeed in business.

It really is just the default 'go-to' argument for you lot when something doesn't go the way you want it to in games - the company must be greedy, and not care about their product at all. It's not like an artist doesn't sell his paintings or anything, or a sculptor his statues, or a composer his music. No, none of them are trying to make money from their work at all.

Uh... no it's not. I use a programmable keyboard, a Razor Black Widow. When I push M1, it pushes F1-F8 for me all at once. I can tell you that with confidence that I won't be banned because I'm still here, at the keyboard, in manual control of the game, rather than having a script warp my ship from belt to belt and shooting all the rats for me.

The way I see it, this is one of those issues that is always going to exist because new players that don't understand EVE and its rules will keep bringing it up. Every new wave of new players, there's gonna be a new 'ban ISBoxer' thread on the forums because new people don't get it. If they continue to not get it, then eventually they'll become vets that don't get it, and the game is full of them as well. Bottom line is, you just don't get it, but mostly because you're new. You'll continue to not get it if you're not very good at absorbing new information.

Until you are able to tell the difference between a bot and IS Boxer any argument you make is invalid.

I agree with everything expect the part about ISboxer giving an advantage.

It gives me an advantage when mission running with my alts.

It significantly lessens the amount of micro management and increases my efficiency.

I am able to run missions quicker which in turns allows me to earn more LP then I would be doing by having to control x number of accounts separately.

what the hell as isboxer got to do with botting? isboxer is not a botting program at all. isboxer is just about having multi accounts showing on one screen really and the ability to control them.

there is nothing wrong with it, you are still playing the game, you cant go afk and it does it all for you. So if i have 10 accounts do you expect someone to have 10 screens, 10 mice, 10 keyboards?

isboxer is the best thing to happen for multiboxing. nothing wrong with it at all. ITS NOT A BOTTING PROGRAM!

now they may use another program to do the botting but thats not isboxer.

Not only is it not "wrong", its not against the eve online rules.
Looping your macro unattended while you sleep at night on the other hand is botting and an EULA violation.

Today's schools really need to teach critical thinking and reading comprehension, the lack of it is on ugly display in this topic.