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Capsuleer Migrants: Children of Two Worlds

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2014-03-21 01:19:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Fredfredbug4
I'll take the quiz, I'm bored.

1. Freedom is worthless unless you do something with it. Freedom itself isn't too spectacular, it's what you can do with it that makes it so special.
2. It is for some, not for others. Some people best benefit themselves and society when they make themselves stand out, otjers are best off trying to fit in. What you need is to allow individualism, not make it a requirement.
3. Hedonism is horrible and poses the greatest threat to the Federation. That said, as long as people aren't hurting themselves or others, they should be allowed to indulge in what they enjoy.
4. Tibus Heth was not a terrorist. A brutal dictator and possible supporter of terrorist, but not one himself, unless it is confirmed he was.
5. Not entirely, Caldari Prime and Caldari Prime's orbits and moons belong to the Caldari. However, the Gallenteams living on and above Caldarie Prime should be treated with respect.
6. We will never be able to tell who truly started it. All we know is both Gallente and Caldari did things to prolong the conflict once it started.
7. "Freedom fighter" is a subjective term. Regardless, both guerillas and professional soldiers play vital roles.
8. "Democracy is the worst form of government, but it's the only one that works."

Hopefully this will help you understand that these topics are far more complex than you might believe.

Hopefully...

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#42 - 2014-03-21 01:24:34 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
I'll take the quiz, I'm bored.

1. Freedom is worthless unless you do something with it. Freedom itself isn't too spectacular, it's what you can do with it that makes it so special.
2. It is for some, not for others. Some people best benefit themselves and society when they make themselves stand out, otjers are best off trying to fit in. What you need is to allow individualism, not make it a requirement.
3. Hedonism is horrible and poses the greatest threat to the Federation. That said, as long as people aren't hurting themselves or others, they should be allowed to indulge in what they enjoy.
4. Tibus Heth was not a terrorist. A brutal dictator and possible supporter of terrorist, but not one himself, unless it is confirmed he was.
5. Not entirely, Caldari Prime and Caldari Prime's orbits and moons belong to the Caldari. However, the Gallenteams living on and above Caldarie Prime should be treated with respect.
6. We will never be able to tell who truly started it. All we know is both Gallente and Caldari did things to prolong the conflict once it started.
7. "Freedom fighter" is a subjective term. Regardless, both guerillas and professional soldiers play vital roles.
8. "Democracy is the worst form of goverent, but it's the only one that works."

Hopefully this will help you understand that these topics are far more complex than you might believe.

Hopefully...

Basically the long winded version of my answer. I like you Fred.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Aelisha
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#43 - 2014-03-21 13:49:28 UTC
As this thread has deviated completely from its purpose of civil discussion between capsuleer experiences of being exposed to, and maybe taken in by, other cultures, I would like to request closure of this thread. Thank you those of you who responded constructively.

CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange

Intaki Reborn

Independent Capsuleer

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#44 - 2014-03-21 20:11:02 UTC
Apollo Lyserius wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

That I know already.
But I don't want to provide to anyone who says lies like these:
"People like Diana Kim are that way mostly because they've never had to cohabit or get to really know people from cultures they oppose."
any ideas about me, to be used in stupid propaganda and insults.


But...have you...? Am I wrong on that? If yes, for how long and with whom have you cohabited?

You see, if you asked it in the first place, if you said:
"Diana Kim, have you ever cohabit with anyone from culture you oppose?"
I would consider drinking coffee with you.
But since you said
Quote:
People like Diana Kim are that way mostly because they've never had to cohabit or get to really know people from cultures they oppose.

You are just worthless gallentean liar, whom I won't give any answers about me, so you won't have any more stupid ideas what to use against me for ridiculous insults or rants.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#45 - 2014-03-21 20:12:32 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
I'll take the quiz, I'm bored.
4. Tibus Heth was not a terrorist. A brutal dictator and possible supporter of terrorist, but not one himself, unless it is confirmed he was.

Still this is a reply of a patient, soaked through with gallentean propaganda and disrespect to Caldari heroes, culture, history and ideals.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#46 - 2014-03-21 20:18:34 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
I'll take the quiz, I'm bored.
4. Tibus Heth was not a terrorist. A brutal dictator and possible supporter of terrorist, but not one himself, unless it is confirmed he was.

Still this is a reply of a patient, soaked through with gallentean propaganda and disrespect to Caldari heroes, culture, history and ideals.
you get what you give. Suck it up princess, it's life.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Apollo Lyserius
Minerva Technologies
#47 - 2014-03-21 21:17:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Apollo Lyserius
Diana Kim wrote:

You are just worthless gallentean liar, whom I won't give any answers about me, so you won't have any more stupid ideas what to use against me for ridiculous insults or rants.


So...you haven't.
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2014-03-21 22:03:45 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
I'll take the quiz, I'm bored.
4. Tibus Heth was not a terrorist. A brutal dictator and possible supporter of terrorist, but not one himself, unless it is confirmed he was.

Still this is a reply of a patient, soaked through with gallentean propaganda and disrespect to Caldari heroes, culture, history and ideals.


Confirming you have no issues with the other seven answers.

Also, I apologize Aelisha.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Drakolus
Never-Ever Undock
#49 - 2014-03-22 00:14:48 UTC
While not originally a Nomad of sorts, I was given what ammounts to an unpleasant shove onto that road. Early in my life I was a good and loyal Ni-Kunni believing in what I had been taught and believing in the righteousness of the Faith and of the Empire.

All of that was lost, along with my expected future and my family in one night. I turned to some old Ni-Kunni traditions. I moved around, I traded, I got to know people. And while my travels seemed to take me to just about every corner of New Eden, nothing felt quite so welcoming as the Republic. Sure, it was pretty rough to begin with. Most Matari take one look at me and think something akin to "Amarrian Lap-dog." But I persevered and I earned the trust of the Vherokior Tribe.

Now this would not be all that out of the ordinary if it was just me or me and a few others. But over time, a small group of Ni-Kunni expats have been able to transform our influence, trust and effort into something special. The Vherokior have been more than welcoming to both myself AND many of my countrymen. There is now a small but healthy community of Ni-Kunni in Republic space. Many have even chosen to follow me into reviving some of the old ways, the ways my people used to follow before the Amarr came to Mishi IV.

In the end, I guess I am a pretty terrible Nomad as I have been lucky enough to bring my Culture with me to a point. I love and respect the Republic and I have fought and would be willing to fight for it again. But nothing feels quite so welcoming as walking into the Ni-Kunni district and enjoying both traditional passtimes and seeing the magic of two proud Cultures mixing as well.
Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#50 - 2014-03-22 01:12:26 UTC
I've not left my native culture behind, but I have had the good fortune of experiencing the culture of others. And yes, I do consider it good fortune. In some ways, it makes me appreciate the Caldari more... In others, it outlines the flaws many of us choose to ignore. Mostly, however, my travels outside of the State have taught me that beauty, merit, and worth are not native to only one culture, and that we can, against all "traditional" belief, not only exist as neighbors, but reach out for mutual gain that can be far, far greater than what we find by only considering our own.

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117

ISD Gallifreyan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#51 - 2014-03-25 04:13:01 UTC
This thread has been closed at the request of the originator.

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