EVE General Discussion

If you had ever gone through low or null sec you would have quick seen some Pvp. Last night alone I lost 3 ships and sometimes I lose 5 or more in a night. Im a new player so losing ships is to be expected. But if you want to look for PvP trouble in Eve you can find it easily.

My most embarrassing moment was being ganked while carrying 1 billion isk worth of cargo in a mammoth. That was in high sec. I find it utterly baffling that in 4 years you have never seen pvp whereas in my 3 months I have seen it literally hundreds of times.

Step 1: Join a corp.

Step 2: Be in the corp.

Step 3: Do stuff with your corp.

Step 4: there is no step 4 seriously go do those other things.

Eh. The OP may have exaggerated just a tad. Frustration tends to cause that sometimes. To say this EVE thing is what you make it, that's probably a bit of an exaggeration, too. Add "within certain parameters..." You did answer your own question, OP, however.

When you mentioned hacking, then alluded to the information gathering phase, you pretty much nailed it. Of course, when striking out in a specialized course such as site hacking, one does have to obtain the equipment required, train up for what you can't quite do (yet,) then get out there and do the what it is.

Time spent in what your OP described, had it not been for the trip from Jita, you coulda squeezed-in two L3s. Why? Well, it is a way to make money (to finance something.) There are perks to high standings with the corp you run missions for. You were likely running up your security status (incrementally, but it's there).

Admittedly, it's not as though you could impulsively run out and hack to satisfy your immediate desire. (Not that I'd accuse anyone of being the instant gratification-seeking sort.) But, any in-depth occupation with EVE will require some run up time, financing, and geez, once all this is done, you don't have to do it again.

But, as articulate as your OP was, my guess is you really don't want to occupy your time in this fashion. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have the impression you'd rather power level, obtain high-end gear, then gank lesser players for giggles. It's a common mistake for MMO players to come to this "sandbox" and expect what they did in "other games" is doable here.

I guess you've discovered that. It's not the "game's" fault, however.

This was such a diplomatic attempt to point this out to you, I do hope, when you decide to chuck it all,
that you'll send me YOUR STUFF!!!

thanks for your time and attention

First ask yourself this question.

What made you want to play EVE in the first place? - Most players don't come into EVE totally blind, especially since any time something big happens, gaming news websites start talking about it.

Did you join to take part in massive battles of thousands of players? Then join one of the Nullsec groups. Were you enticed by the tales of secrecy and betrayal? Take up scamming or spying. Does EVE's lore completely pull you in? Faction Warfare is good for this. Do you want to make billions? Play around with the markets and trade away.

Also, one attitude that you need to develop as a new player is There is nothing you can't start doing from day one. There are things you probably shouldn't start doing from day one, but anything is possible for a new player.

Want to get into PVP? You can light cynos, scout, and tackle in under an hour. Mining? Very easy to do from day one. The tutorial missions give and tell you about everything you need to start with. Trading? There's a guide somewhere on how to make a billion ISK on your trial account. Yeah that's right, if you know what you're doing you can play EVE without never spending a single bit of your real cash.

The third thing you need to understand as a new player is EVE is a long term game. If you're expecting to make billions, take an entire section of the galaxy for your own, and slaughter thousands of players in an hour, then this probably isn't the game for you. EVE has survived ten years because things take time and strategy to unfold. Overnight success stories are extremely rare in EVE and are more about luck than about skill. If you're the type of person that will start something massive and only see it finished years after the idea first popped into your head, welcome to EVE. If you need instant gratification, this isn't the game for you.

That said, EVE isn't slow or boring. It's just very strategic and requires a lot of planning and time. Which is why the best thing to do is take baby steps and set small goals for yourself on a daily basis. You should have long term, master plans that will take years to unfold. However, if you set little goals for yourself every time you log in, you'll have a blast accomplishing things.

Come try fleeting with Spectre fleet. Public fleets for anyone. Even low skill pilots and old pilots but new to PvP and fleets.

Corrected that for you.

I too get sick of this "reputation" or belief. Seriously has none of these ppl played other games. The stuff that comes out of 7 year olds mouths on xbox live is crazy.

Are there trolls? Yes.

Are there people genuinely out there to help? Yes, more so most of the time.

I have been escorted out of null sec when i had to log off and come back on without my fleet, by REDS! They were just like, hay we'll escort you. I am in a jag 20 jumps with pipes from highsec, what did i have to lose. Turns out not the jag, they *did* escort me.

Yesterday a bunch of noobs or carebares wanted to check out incursions, my corpie was mulitboxing spider tanked tengus and msg on local to get close enough for reps others wise the will die (they where scramed i believe). Some of them got close enough that he could save them. He then escorted them out of the incursion systems. The one guy who didn't trust him died when he Leroyed the gate.

I know lots of ppl that give isk/ships to new players in public fleets. We almost always try to help with fitting for each other.

Standard "How to PvP" advice says to ask the ppl who killed you for advice. Presumably because they will give good advice.

I have meet people here i would call friends in RL now. MMOs are about socializing within the context of the game mechanics with other people.