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New Eden is too damn small
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#41 - 2014-03-24 22:28:31 UTC
Took an alt from Jita to the ORE station 4C-B7X in Outer Ring, taking the slow route via the nulsec border system PF-346 in Syndicate.

Ran into only one bubble directly on a gate. I managed to avoid all the drag / stop bubbles.

Most of the systems were empty. A few low populations had like maybe 1-5. 4C-B7X itself had about 10, but that fluctuated a lot as there was a 35+ man fleet roaming through the system.

Alt arrived safely in 4C-B7X station. Alt was in an Ibis.
Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#42 - 2014-03-24 22:51:54 UTC
Rikii Rook wrote:
Unfortunately I got stomped just one jump from high sec on my back to home base.

I for one plan on moving out into 0.0 once I complete training.

That last jump is almost always the one that gets you. :)

Learn to bounce off celestials in uncharted systems.

And check your wallet.

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#43 - 2014-03-24 23:16:16 UTC
Caviar Liberta wrote:
ITTigerClawIK wrote:
you have obviously never been into 0.0 space , there are ALOT of empty systems out there, high sec and low sec are usually well populated.


Yes this is what 0.0 usually is like.


That's because most 0.0 is garbage space that isn't worth living in. The only reason people IHUB it at all is because otherwise your asking for someone to do a quick flip of sov during your off hours, plop a staging system down and taking all of your ****.

If CCP threw away the current military index system and instead allowed you some method to grind truesec down to a nice moneymaking level you'd see a much more populated nullsec.
Mario Putzo
#44 - 2014-03-24 23:20:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Mario Putzo
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Caviar Liberta wrote:
ITTigerClawIK wrote:
you have obviously never been into 0.0 space , there are ALOT of empty systems out there, high sec and low sec are usually well populated.


Yes this is what 0.0 usually is like.


That's because most 0.0 is garbage space that isn't worth living in. The only reason people IHUB it at all is because otherwise your asking for someone to do a quick flip of sov during your off hours, plop a staging system down and taking all of your ****.

If CCP threw away the current military index system and instead allowed you some method to grind truesec down to a nice moneymaking level you'd see a much more populated nullsec.


Ya because I don't farm 120m/hr + in all that **** space running anoms/plexes that CFC can't be bothered to use. I thank you for thinking the space sucks though, and will continue to pad my empire of isk until someone stops telling you lies.

(its not the best isk, but its better than running missions)
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2014-03-25 03:00:22 UTC
Jessica Duranin wrote:
There is a LOT of empty space.
Yesterday we rolled our static for 4 hours and the only person we found was some dude harvesting gas in his venture.
Bob hates us. Sad


Bob was just casting his gaze elsewhere. I returned to wh space after a week in hisec and Bob gifted me with a pimped out Gnosis and a Navy Raven added to my killboard.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Dagar Bly
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2014-03-25 05:12:50 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Talia Prime wrote:
I've been roaming null and have easily done 10 jumps without seeing anyone. You need to leave hisec.


Its only this way because passive income in NS allows groups to project further then they would otherwise be capable of doing. If entities like CFC were forced to play to their realistic wallet size then you wouldn't be able to have this luxury as more pilots would have to be in space playing the game, instead of sitting docked up waiting on a jabber ping to blob timer, and have their ships replaced if they lose them.

Get rid of the passive income streams from moons and planets and you will see the nullbears come out of hibernation. Only reason null is empty is because the majority of players in null don't need to grind isk to replace lost ships.


I always thought, if they removed those passive income sources, and made it player interactive, null sec would be the funnest part of EvE, as it is, no one really has a reason to go there unless you're collecting from those passive income streams, which seems to be a select few people, kudos to them for gaming the current system, but that same current system is the reason for the lack of goodfites, and the prevalence of blobs, what null sec SHOULD be is a massive every man for himself warzone with epic reward possibilities for the solo capsuleer, what it IS, is just suck.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#47 - 2014-03-25 05:17:21 UTC
Dagar Bly wrote:
what null sec SHOULD be is a massive every man for himself warzone with epic reward possibilities for the solo capsuleer, what it IS, is just suck.


Who ever said such a thing? Or is that just wishful thinking on your part?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Jith
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2014-03-25 06:14:44 UTC
Get more players, it will become even smaller.
Reiisha
#49 - 2014-03-25 08:55:51 UTC
Batelle wrote:
OP, there are plenty of sparsely populated areas. You're just not looking hard enough for them.


The point of the OP was that they shouldn't be hard to find.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
Bael Malefic
Doomheim
#50 - 2014-03-25 10:36:18 UTC
Reiisha wrote:
Batelle wrote:
OP, there are plenty of sparsely populated areas. You're just not looking hard enough for them.


The point of the OP was that they shouldn't be hard to find.


But they aren't hard to find.

They are very, very easy to find. Just use the star map.

Whether or not they are easy to get to may be a different matter.

For what it's worth, I used to think it was hard to get into null. I used to get blown up by gate camps all the time. I still do but only occasionally because I learned how to avoid them, most of the time.
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#51 - 2014-03-25 11:57:07 UTC
There's still plenty of remote & empty space in EvE. Even in lowsec and highsec! Ammatar & south Amarr space has sparsely populated regions, you can travel even in highsec (with stations!) without seeing a soul.
I sometimes travel there, to enjoy the solitude and quiet there.

Just remember, sparsely populated space also has a disadvantage: low to no market-activity and the nearest tradehub is far, far away.

Providing a new home for refugees in the Aurora Arcology
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2014-03-25 12:23:35 UTC
Jandice Ymladris wrote:
There's still plenty of remote & empty space in EvE. Even in lowsec and highsec! Ammatar & south Amarr space has sparsely populated regions, you can travel even in highsec (with stations!) without seeing a soul.
I sometimes travel there, to enjoy the solitude and quiet there.

Just remember, sparsely populated space also has a disadvantage: low to no market-activity and the nearest tradehub is far, far away.


Khanid hisec is a bit that way as well.
Dagar Bly
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2014-03-25 13:09:47 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Dagar Bly wrote:
what null sec SHOULD be is a massive every man for himself warzone with epic reward possibilities for the solo capsuleer, what it IS, is just suck.


Who ever said such a thing? Or is that just wishful thinking on your part?


No one, that would just be fun, instead of a dead space I have to reason to go to.

http://eveportraitcontest.webs.com
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#54 - 2014-03-25 13:24:09 UTC
Dagar Bly wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Dagar Bly wrote:
what null sec SHOULD be is a massive every man for himself warzone with epic reward possibilities for the solo capsuleer, what it IS, is just suck.


Who ever said such a thing? Or is that just wishful thinking on your part?


No one, that would just be fun, instead of a dead space I have to reason to go to.


"epic reward possibilities for the solo capsuleer" sounds a lot like a single player game, to me.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Dagar Bly
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2014-03-25 13:45:21 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Dagar Bly wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Dagar Bly wrote:
what null sec SHOULD be is a massive every man for himself warzone with epic reward possibilities for the solo capsuleer, what it IS, is just suck.


Who ever said such a thing? Or is that just wishful thinking on your part?


No one, that would just be fun, instead of a dead space I have to reason to go to.


"epic reward possibilities for the solo capsuleer" sounds a lot like a single player game, to me.


Not when there is competition for the sites, sounds like a lot of goodfites to me.

http://eveportraitcontest.webs.com
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#56 - 2014-03-25 13:57:07 UTC
Dagar Bly wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Dagar Bly wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Dagar Bly wrote:
what null sec SHOULD be is a massive every man for himself warzone with epic reward possibilities for the solo capsuleer, what it IS, is just suck.


Who ever said such a thing? Or is that just wishful thinking on your part?


No one, that would just be fun, instead of a dead space I have to reason to go to.


"epic reward possibilities for the solo capsuleer" sounds a lot like a single player game, to me.


Not when there is competition for the sites, sounds like a lot of goodfites to me.


So, are we just assuming that other people straight up are not allowed to be in a fleet, corp, alliance, or form metagame groups, then?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Dagar Bly
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2014-03-25 14:51:44 UTC


"epic reward possibilities for the solo capsuleer" sounds a lot like a single player

So, are we just assuming that other people straight up are not allowed to be in a fleet, corp, alliance, or form metagame groups, then?
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It could be designed that way, wouldn't it bee fun? I think so, but who cares really, it's not in the game, so sure, you can be right, idc.

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Old Salty
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#58 - 2014-03-26 02:27:21 UTC
EVE is definitely too small, the game has been won, the dream is over, null sec is a joke, you can only own land by someone's leave, Either lengthen gate jump times, or expand the universe, Totally unrealistic to travel from one side of the galaxy to the other in an hour or two... also, get rid of local everywhere, and kill off locator agents.... I hope CCP sells the game to people with a brain.....just saying
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