Science & Industry

No you can't. The only way to import goods is to use a customs office and a launchpad. If low sec planets loose their (PO)COs then they will not work as factory planets. People will probably use low sec planets to produce P1 or maybe P2 and then move that to hisec to produce P3 or P4. The higher tax rate plus transport costs will be added to the cost of the finished product resulting in a rise in PI prices and POS fuel blocks.

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Yes, for 240k a day I'll set one up! O wait....

Heck even at 2 million a day it's way too much effort and risk involved for something that 10 bored BCs can reinforce if they feel like it. And that's before taking into consideration that any system/POCO that gets some sort of traffic will get camped sooner than later.

A lot of people don't do extraction PI because the 17-20mil per character slot you can usually average in lowsec is not enough for the risk and effort involved (effort here being clicking once a day or so). What makes you think people will go out of their way and invest 100mil into a destructible object that will earn them 240k a day?

While I applaud CCP for its continued innovation with the game I feel that POCO is a step backward for a goodly portion of the Eve comunity. I am a returning player that spent a long time away. Coming back to Eve i was delighted by the changes in PI. It reduced babysitting your colonies and put control of the process and what you get out of PI firmly into the hands of the player.

PI it seemed to me was never a big isk maker unless done in null sec, which is fine bigger risks and bigger rewards. Low sec was ok to do PI in if you have several characters coordinating efforts. Even then its something it was more something to do to pad the wallet rather then do as a main focus. High sec PI is not worth the time or effort. It is good to get your feet wet and learn the ropes, maybe experiment some but as a serious plan just not worth it.

The changes may make null sec PI more interesting but will ruin low sec for any non large corp. Small corps and independent players will not be able to compete. They will in time be completely squeezed out either by taxes or by having to launch materials rather then use the CO. The changes have also increased the babysitting needed for factory planets. Having to log in twice to keep your factories going is not a big deal. Having to do it five times a day now is a pain in the tush for little reward.

In conclusion the big boys once again get a boost while the little guy has a door closed in thier face. hmmmmm sounds familar I think I hear the sounds of drum circles and people yelling Occupy Jita

I don't think you understand the concept of isk "faucets" and "sinks", at all. Total misuse. Nor do you seem to realize that the market just needs some time to reach a new equilibrium. Why would POS shut down, after all, if T2 is skyrocketing "in the short term"? None of what you post makes sense.

Read the dev blog, the taxes are set by CCP, but they're designed to fluctuate with the market. This effectively mean that there can be no equilibrium, because passing the cost along to the customer to maintain a profit margin simply guarantees that CCP will 'adjust' the 'base price' one way or another, depending on how bad things get.

And, yes, I do: An alliance, by it's nature, is better able to defend it's PI holdings then any corp. The only risk for them is the same risk that everything else in nullsec carries. Effectively, it increases their reward by eliminating any potential competition. This means that, for them, it would very much become a 'faucet'.

Yes, I am, because it's a key point you seem to have missed. If the tax is variable, there cannot be any point it reaches equilibrium. Thus this permanently destabilizes the market, because you never know at what point or on what grounds CCP will change it.

If you lost 10b worth of subcaps, they're probably after more then just your POCOs....

Couldn't agree more. PI seemed to me to be an individual enjoyment, for those of us interesting in things other than explosions. Now it's going to be forced onto the grand alliance scale. They'll dominate it all soon enough, at the expense of the individual and small corps. Worse still, the new system will allow them to tax people not affiliated with their group at an even larger rate!

.9999999...=1 (without rounding) Still pisses me off. I accept it as true because it is, but my mind doesn't do well with that type of infinity.

Unfortunately, this isn't an infinite series. This isn't really a series, as there's no way to procedurally generate the next number in the series. It's a set that changes at the whim of CCP.

That said, I doubt CCP will change it often (if Ever <.< >.> FW, etc) So equilibrium will be approached or reached, then CCP will change it and a new equilibrium will arise.

EDIT: Whoops, the infinite series thing was a crack at Cygnet, ignore my bit in the middle there.

True PI was never a massive gold mine that is Tech moons, however PI can be done totally solo and could not be directly disrupted that much by other players (only direct way was over-mining and resource depletion, but that's a side effect, not a direct attack on you). The indirect way people could screw with your PI 'gold mine' was to intercept you en-rout to either the CO or to the trade hub/drop off point, which happened in low/null alot and in high sec if you where war decced...or had wayy too much crap stuffed into a hauler and making yourself a suicide gank target.

Now you could keep 1-2 accounts EASILY subbed with a half assed 3 character set up with PI prior to the expansion. I know I kept 3 accounts topped up with plex using only 3 characters doing PI, the other 6 where making my monthly profit to be rolled back into paying for PoS fuel, new BPO's and new business ventures. Sure you can make more doing incursions or null sec exploration or what have you, but the good thing with PI was it was pretty much a passive income that paid for your plex and only demanded 10-20 minutes of your day in return.

Now with the PI taxes you can still pay for your plex's ijn high sec but if you now want to attempt to be a PI 'Baron' and hold several planets you can in low/null and tax your peasants whatever you want.

Now industry based corps will suffer slightly due to this as they have no military back up to call on if their POCO is attacked, however most industry based corps have got large sums of ISK in the corp wallets that they could offer mercs to help in defence of the more important/lucrative planets/POCO's and in return set them to blue, no taxes and payment for their protective services if needed.

True it may not work out that way every time and the mercs may just want to shoot at both sides in the end, but you never know. You could come to a very good working relationship and able to hold a system or two of worth while planets with outside protection if your a small indi corp.

People just need to learn to think outside the box when it comes to POCO defense. Get worked out deals before hand, then destroy the interbus CO, put up your own and have the mercs on call if it gets reinforced. They always love blowing stuff up and nothing is better than people that don't expect it.