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Isboxer, why is it allowed?

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LordOfDespair
Deep Dark Fantasy.
#141 - 2014-03-24 14:29:32 UTC
All ISboxer is, is real-time botting.

You play one account and 19 others are automated.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#142 - 2014-03-24 14:36:43 UTC
LordOfDespair wrote:
All ISboxer is, is real-time botting.

You play one account and 19 others are automated.

…except that no automation is happening.
LordOfDespair
Deep Dark Fantasy.
#143 - 2014-03-24 14:38:19 UTC  |  Edited by: LordOfDespair
Tippia wrote:
LordOfDespair wrote:
All ISboxer is, is real-time botting.

You play one account and 19 others are automated.

…except that no automation is happening.


It is a real time macro, you give the commands to one account.. and it is dupicated to the others.



How many accounts do you play on btw? jw......
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#144 - 2014-03-24 14:40:13 UTC
LordOfDespair wrote:
It is a real time macro, you give the commands to one account.
…and in doing so, you are manually — not automatically — controlling the accounts.
Without manual input, they do nothing, since no automation is present.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#145 - 2014-03-24 14:40:15 UTC
You al need to quit crying and help CCP out by buying more accounts.

Teared up soloists spinning in stations don't so squat for the game, fleets of ships doing things create content.

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LordOfDespair
Deep Dark Fantasy.
#146 - 2014-03-24 14:43:56 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
You al need to quit crying and help CCP out by buying more accounts.

Teared up soloists spinning in stations don't so squat for the game, fleets of ships doing things create content.



Yeah you are right, the guy who can do everything by himself and only plays with himself and his 30 alts is really creating content. Roll
Salvos Rhoska
#147 - 2014-03-24 14:44:22 UTC
Tippia wrote:
…except that no automation is happening.

The software automates one button push to 19 other clients.

You don't have to push 20 buttons. You push one.
The software does the rest by automation.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#148 - 2014-03-24 14:49:46 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
The software automates one button push to 19 other clients.
Nope. The software mirrors non-automated input.

Without manual input, nothing happens, because no automation is going on. No matter how angry you get over this issue and no matter how much you try to redefine the terms, this very simple fact remains.
LordOfDespair
Deep Dark Fantasy.
#149 - 2014-03-24 14:52:21 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
The software automates one button push to 19 other clients.
Nope. The software mirrors non-automated input.

Without manual input, nothing happens, because no automation is going on. No matter how angry you get over this issue and no matter how much you try to redefine the terms, this very simple fact remains.


I will create a software that will take my manual clicks and play them later.

Since the clicks were made by my manual clicks then it is okay.

No matter how hard you try, your defnitions will always backfire because they are flawed.

I ask again: How many accounts do you play on?
Prince Kobol
#150 - 2014-03-24 15:00:26 UTC
As somebody who users ISBoxer I can and will say it does gives a player an advantage.

I use it to mission run in low sec and it makes life a lot easier.

Can I mission run without it, of course I can.

Can I run missions as fast and as effective without it, not at all.
Salvos Rhoska
#151 - 2014-03-24 15:00:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Tippia wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
The software automates one button push to 19 other clients.
Nope. The software mirrors non-automated input.

Without manual input, nothing happens, because no automation is going on. No matter how angry you get over this issue and no matter how much you try to redefine the terms, this very simple fact remains.


Implying I am angry. Nope.
Implying I am redefining terms. Nope.

Definition of AUTOMATION
1
: the technique of making an apparatus, a process, or a system operate automatically
2
: the state of being operated automatically
3
: automatically controlled operation of an apparatus, process, or system by mechanical or electronic devices that take the place of human labor

Note the third definition.

When you manually press one button, the software automates that single action to 19 other clients, substituting that from the necessary human labor of manually pressing that same button once on each client, to a total of 20.

I'm sorry, Tippia. I'm just flat out much smarter than you are. I know it chafes you to no end, but me, it just amuses.

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Josef Djugashvilis
#152 - 2014-03-24 15:00:39 UTC
Nidal Fervor wrote:
Isboxer allows a person to farm with far more accounts than they would normally be able to handle, it allows them to farm for much longer periods without becoming too stressed and earn a lot more isk.

Botting allows a person to farm with far more accounts than they would normally be able to handle, it allows them to farm for much longer periods without becoming too stressed and earn a lot more isk.

Why is Isboxer allowed? It's just another form of botting.



More money for CCP from a given number of players.

This is not a signature.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#153 - 2014-03-24 15:02:10 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Definition of AUTOMATION
1
: the technique of making an apparatus, a process, or a system operate automatically
2
: the state of being operated automatically
3
: automatically controlled operation of an apparatus, process, or system by mechanical or electronic devices that take the place of human labor
…and none of those apply to multiboxing software since the operation of the ship is manual.
No input → no ouptut.
Salvos Rhoska
#154 - 2014-03-24 15:04:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Tippia wrote:

3: automatically controlled operation of an apparatus, process, or system by mechanical or electronic devices that take the place of human labor

…and none of those apply to multiboxing software since the operation of the ship is manual.
No input → no ouptut.


The operation of ONE ship is manual.
The operation of TWENTY ships by means of software, is AUTOMATED.

You do not manually control 20 ships. You control 1 ship. The software automates that action to the remaining 19.

Read the definition again. My god, you really are dim.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#155 - 2014-03-24 15:05:43 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
The operation of ONE ship is manual.
The operation of TWENTY ships by means of software, is
…also manual.
No input → no output.
Salvos Rhoska
#156 - 2014-03-24 15:08:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Tippia wrote:
…also manual.
No input → no output.


You input one manual action.

What then results in 19 additional outputs?

Magic?

Go back to school, dilettante.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#157 - 2014-03-24 15:10:07 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Tippia wrote:
…also manual.
No input → no output.

You input one manual input.
…and without that input, nothing happens. Thus, no automation.
Salvos Rhoska
#158 - 2014-03-24 15:12:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Tippia wrote:
You input one manual input]…and without that input, nothing happens. Thus, no automation.


You really are full pants-on-head stupid.

Even the most sophisticated bot system on earth requires atleast one manual input to activate.

With one manual input, the software automates 19 additional outputs.

You don't have to push 20 buttons. You push one. The software pushes the other 19.
That is automation.

Do I think it is agains EULA? No.
Is it automation? Yes.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#159 - 2014-03-24 15:27:39 UTC
LordOfDespair wrote:
Sentamon wrote:
You al need to quit crying and help CCP out by buying more accounts.

Teared up soloists spinning in stations don't so squat for the game, fleets of ships doing things create content.



Yeah you are right, the guy who can do everything by himself and only plays with himself and his 30 alts is really creating content. Roll


Compared to the noob crying in the forums, yes he is. As an added bonus, he's not flooding Local with stupidity like your average player does.

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#160 - 2014-03-24 15:31:47 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:

Is it automation? Yes.


No, it's repetition. You clearly have no idea what automation is.

A car that drives itself is automation, software that presses the gas petal on 20 cars is repetition, and it can't automate squat.

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