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Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#21 - 2014-03-24 01:54:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Khanh'rhh
Dsparil Mal wrote:
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
Stop being silly. Did you really expect me to put an exhaustive list of stuff I gank on gates in every post? You can't be serious. It was merely an example of why people would use a Vexor to gank a Hulk. Why can't you just accept that you didn't think of this use case in your first post and be done with it? Nobody knows everything, its not a shame!



Sure sure. That's not the way you worded and your words were very clear, lol. You're just back peddling and in damage control mode now. Just can't accept the fact you lost an argument and now look silly because of it.


Just because he ganks hulks on a gate doesn't mean he only ganks hulks on a gate. You've committed a very basic logical fallacy.

To explain this to you, since you are struggling:

1) You sit on a gate in your Vexor to gank haulers
2) You happen to spot a poorly tanked Hulk
3) You blap it, because why not?

Your version:

1) You sit on a gate in your Vexor to gank haulers
2) You happen to spot a poorly tanked Hulk
3) Quick lets go reship
4) Er
5) I think it went that way
6) Yep there it is
7) Huh. It's on AP
8) Man AP is slow
9) 25minutes go by
10) Hmm
11) It's docked
12) Maybe I should wait?
13) Oh, the guy logged
14) Man if only there was an alternate process, maybe only 3 steps or so.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Dsparil Mal
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#22 - 2014-03-24 09:34:40 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:


Just because he ganks hulks on a gate doesn't mean he only ganks hulks on a gate. You've committed a very basic logical fallacy.

...mindless crap I didn't bother reading.




No, there is no fallacy. Your intellectually inept friend failed to properly explain precisely what it was she/he/it/whatever was doing on the gate and specifically what she was targeting. Their first post made it very clear they were targeting hulks. If they were targeting other ships as well it would have been just as easy to state as such.

Grammar lesson #1: "I sit on gates using a vexor to gank hulks and other killable ships."


DId they state it that way? NOPE! Quit covering for your friend and go sit in the corner Twisted

Erotica 1 for CSM 9!

Danalee
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2014-03-24 10:11:00 UTC
Dsparil Mal wrote:

No, there is no fallacy. Your intellectually inept friend failed to properly explain precisely what it was she/he/it/whatever was doing on the gate and specifically what she was targeting. Their first post made it very clear they were targeting hulks. If they were targeting other ships as well it would have been just as easy to state as such.

Grammar lesson #1: "I sit on gates using a vexor to gank hulks and other killable ships."


DId they state it that way? NOPE! Quit covering for your friend and go sit in the corner Twisted


Why in God's name are you so obtuse? Epic fail. Ugh
What's it to you which ship anyone uses to do anything?

I use a vargur to haul PI stuff. Nuff said.

D.

Bear

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Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Powers Sa
#24 - 2014-03-24 10:21:40 UTC
how's my favorite new "Goon slave"

Do you like winning t2 frigs and dictors for Dirt Cheap?https://eveninggames.net/register/ref/dQddmNgyLhFBqNJk

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Garven Dreis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#25 - 2014-03-24 10:51:33 UTC
I think this confirms we are indeed the 'good guys'

Terrible Poster Runner-up 2014

412nv Yaken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2014-03-24 10:59:50 UTC
Santo Trafficante wrote:
you suck...

NEXT !


I like ur attitude and ur game play, next time we are in pyn stick around and we can send u pods

A True Champion of High Security Space

Dsparil Mal
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2014-03-24 14:10:52 UTC
Garven Dreis wrote:
I think this confirms we are indeed the 'good guys'



OMG delusions of grandieur!!!

Erotica 1 for CSM 9!

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#28 - 2014-03-24 19:36:03 UTC
Dsparil Mal wrote:
Garven Dreis wrote:
I think this confirms we are indeed the 'good guys'



OMG delusions of grandieur!!!


Ok so first off, it's "grandeur", so a grammatically correct sentence is still something we've yet to see from you.
Dsparil Mal wrote:
No, there is no fallacy

Well, yes there is. I have explained it to you. To help you further, you're committing a propositional fallacy; you're affirming a disjunct.

In layman's terms:

He was doing A or B
He said "when I was doing B"
You said "That means you weren't doing A"

His statement is logically sound and can't be faulted. Your statement jumps to an incorrect logical conclusion.

Feel free to bury your head in the sand and talk in circles though.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Dsparil Mal
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#29 - 2014-03-24 21:01:03 UTC
wow. I guess I should say it again, you just can't fix stupid. Obviously either English isn't your first language, or you failed Reading and Comprehension REPEATEDLY in school.

Erotica 1 for CSM 9!

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#30 - 2014-03-24 22:27:46 UTC
*eats popcorn* good stuff here.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

HoleySheet1
Deep-Fried Prawns with Lemon
#31 - 2014-03-24 23:56:29 UTC
I endorse the product or service mentioned.

Killing your ships and pods since 2008. Killboards don't lie, Don't get mad, get better.

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#32 - 2014-03-25 00:01:23 UTC
Dsparil Mal wrote:
wow. I guess I should say it again, you just can't fix stupid. Obviously either English isn't your first language, or you failed Reading and Comprehension REPEATEDLY in school.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Sorry friend. I really tried.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Dsparil Mal
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#33 - 2014-03-25 00:24:48 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Dsparil Mal wrote:
wow. I guess I should say it again, you just can't fix stupid. Obviously either English isn't your first language, or you failed Reading and Comprehension REPEATEDLY in school.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Sorry friend. I really tried.



Sure you're not suffering from schizophrenia and merely just focusing on your alternate personality thinking it's me?

Erotica 1 for CSM 9!

Danalee
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2014-03-25 08:28:56 UTC
Haha, this is getting more funny by the minute!

DANCE PUPPETS DANCE!

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Powers Sa
#35 - 2014-03-25 09:27:28 UTC
pet pls

Do you like winning t2 frigs and dictors for Dirt Cheap?https://eveninggames.net/register/ref/dQddmNgyLhFBqNJk

Remeber: Gambling addiction is no laughing matter unless you've lost a vast space fortune on the internet.

Danalee
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2014-03-25 09:53:00 UTC
Awww maaaan powers Sad

Ok, I'll shut up now.

D.

Bear

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Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Dun Bynar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#37 - 2014-03-25 13:01:27 UTC
I have never, nor will I ever grasp the hi sec gank mentality......I kill you ship, and get mine killed in the process is EPIC fail....yes you isk kill ratio is enhanced....but your Kill ratio is a wash.....
Ganker 1 says to his real pvp m8's....man i have 692 billion isk kill to my 1 bill loss ratio....m8 2 says nice....whats your kill ratio? 754 kills...812 loss's......pvp m8s open private chat and have a great laugh.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#38 - 2014-03-25 14:27:03 UTC
KDA is about as much a measure of success in Eve, as is owning pickled eggs is in real life.

You can boast about how you have the best and largest pickled egg collection all day, but no sane person is going to see it as an accomplishment when there's so much better things to collect.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Mortlake
Republic Military School
#39 - 2014-03-26 14:16:06 UTC
Dun Bynar wrote:
*incoherence


Confirming that when my associates who gank lose their Catalysts / Tornados and profit... with alts... we all get on comms in a secure channel and circlejerk about how fail they are.

It's all about KLR and nothing to do with making billions / generating mad, after all.

Sometimes you hit the bar and sometimes the bar hits you...

Niko Fudan
Doomheim
#40 - 2014-03-27 19:18:17 UTC
Well at least they are good for something thenLol

“I am the punishment of God...If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.”

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