EVE General Discussion

If you go by the EULA, the hotkeys for the ISDs are not banned. Because they don't "facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status".

The same can be said about the auto clicker on the warp button, but it seems that CCP doesn't follow its own rules, because things like ISboxer are allowed and users have been banned for these kinds of macros before.

A player playing on one screen, and having those actions artificially repeated onto 19 other screens is accelerated rate. They will do what they are doing 20x better than a single pilot. Without doing more "work".

ISboxer:
Same work but many times more reward.

So you agree CCP logic is flawed and you still try to defend it?

Even if its flawed: you wont get it changed, so tough luck. They dont need to be logical, they just make the rules on which you can either accept and play, or decline and stop playing ;). Hell, they could say only non mining bots are bannable, and there's nothing you could do about it :p (not saying any bot is legal :p)

Please give a specific reference as to where CCP has announced that ISboxer is allowed to be used with EVE.

Also please enlighten us on how you have determined that certain people definitely use ISboxer and not anything else or some software at all.

Finally i'm interested on your opinion on the banwaves of macro-users that occur once every year. How do you think pointing fingers to others will spare you from having action being taken on you?

When a guy competes in the New Eden Open with ISboxer and nothing happens to him its obvious that CCP thinks its okay.

An AFK mining bot is also just 1 account working at the rate of 1 account, yet that is illegal because the player is not physically doing the work.

By extension one could argue that the player is also not doing the physical work for 19 of the 20 accounts being multiboxed. The player is physically active for 1 account. The other 19 are essentially being AFK botted because it's not the player actually providing the input, it's the program.

Also it is clearly providing an advantage. When there are 20 miners in a belt and you have to activate them all manually it will take you at least a minute to activate all of them by hand. I'm sure with practice it could be done faster, but fact remains that you can never do it instantly across all windows.

So the obvious advantage, no matter how small, is that 1 minute it takes to get to the last window. That single minute you don't have to wait for action to start adds up over time. Do it for long enough and that minute turns into an hour. That hour turns into 6 hours. That 6 hours turns into 12 hours and so forth.

Without automation it is impossible for a player to physically command 20 accounts simultaneously. That's really all there is to it.

20 accounts working at the rate of 20 accounts......

LOLZ come on really ... are you going to try and tell me smoking doesn't cause cancer next

i don't know what this isboxer is nor do i care, but i can tell u that it is macroing, botting whatever u want to call it. Its just the next generation of it. There is no possible way for one preson to run 20 accounts at the same time. unless you have 20 hands and 20 computers and the brain power to do 20 tasks at once. or unless you have to have multiple accounts cuz that makes CCP happy in the pants.

I disagree with a lot of the naysayers but who am I? I think its ok if you do it with a programmable keyboard. I've never looped but checked a while back as far as one key initiating multiple keystrokes consecutively. For incursions, One click turn on my tank. Now if its reading the screen and automating a whole trip warp to zero, I've heard of bans for autopilot infractions. I don't think your talking of that.

If you do this and CCP detection systems pick it up, i'd put a large wager that you'll get banned. Pointing to a GM said 'ehhhhh maybe' or multiboxers won't help, if they decide to ban you, you're banned! You essentially want to circumvent the auto-pilot facility and the penalty you get for using it.

You want software to input commands with zero human input, that is the main distinction between what you want to do and what multi-boxing software does, multi-boxing requires human input which is then replicated.

But yeah, probably would have been best to keep quiet about it though

IS boxer is specifically distributed with a mining bot script