Out of Pod Experience

Don't ever expect altruism on the internet, expecting the greater good in a place like eve is an even greater folly.

If someone is suffering an addiction an MMO is really not the place to spend their time either as they are in their nature inherently an addictive activity.

If this is real and not a troll then perhaps it's time he learn to face his problems rather than using avenues of escape, quite a few mean and cruel spirits exist here, it's not a place to hide from real problems.

I feel really sorry for you're husband.
I was ripped of by my "friend" when i started this game and he took everything i had saved up in the first 6 months of playing.

I've found a great honest trustworthy group of players now and we all share stuff we also yell at each other alot.

Part of me wants to offer real life condolences.
Part of me wants to dismiss this due to where it has been posted and the underlying knowledge of the Eve community the poster is aware of.
Part of me is smiling at a very clever troll.
Part of me wants to put out that MMORPGs by their nature are addictive.

2/10 however just so I don't seem to heartless

hope your husband gets better!

Please don't get mad at the game or the players that "hurt" your husband, if he had exercised a little self control this could of all been avoided I'm sure. Video games are serious business an all but screwing over your family not worth the ISk


edit: its a troll

Its a ******* game, if your husband took it that seriously he probably shouldn't be playing a game that allows for, if not encourages, the more nefarious aspects of human nature. There are other games out there that wont hurt his feelings where people can't scam him. If you're so sensitive that you cant deal with these sorts of things, then don't play eve. Its that simple.

Can I have his stuff? Oh wait...

While I sympathize with the situation, eve is a game, it's interactions are governed by the rules of the game. You cannot simply map real life understanding of right and wrong in to this kind of simulated environment.

If your husband had to gone to a poker game with his friends and lost, would you begrudge the other players for playing fairly and by the rules? Of course no! poker is a harsh and unforgiving game, if your not prepared to loose then you shouldn't play.

Even if these players were inclined to sympathize with your husbands situation, there was no way for them to know he was telling the truth about it, he could of been praying on their sympathies for his own benefit.

These players that you are so upset with have done nothing wrong.

Of course you are entirely within your rights to express your opinion

However, there are two points I would ask you to consider:

(1) Backstabbing, betrayal, scamming, ... (and subsequent revenge) is an integral part of the game.
It is promoted in the trailers, the lore, the novels and facilitated by game rules & mechanics.
This freedom to be evil (and maybe the implied challenge to be good regardless) is what brought many of us to this game.
MMOs tend to mirror the real world much more closely than other - traditional - games and sometimes it is easy to forget that they are in fact "just a game".
We don't complain about other players trying to mislead us when playing Poker, we accept the fact that our best
friends (in real-life) will break all agreements and backstab us in Risk when we are at our weakest, we understand that it's nothing personal when our opponents only offer us "unfair" trades while playing Settlers of Catan.
Especially the latter two of these games are similar to EVE in the regard that they allow us to play cooperatively or hostile for large parts of the game and that they often last long enough for the other players to retaliate against any "bad" behavior.
One game of EVE lasts forever and the winning conditions are unclear (but players usually have some idea what they have to do to "get ahead"). However, you cannot be eliminated from the game of EVE - even if you lose all your ships, all your assets and all your friends there's always a way to bounce back and re-enter the game.

(2) It is mostly pointless to try and accommodate someone who is prone to depression.
I am saying this as a person who has suffered from bipolar episodes since my teens.
For other persons it is basically impossible to know what is "safe" to say at any given time and what might trigger severe depression.
Remarks and actions that may seem entirely harmless to a rationally thinking person can be devastating when you are already on the edge of depression. On the other hand I may completely overlook real insults when I am in a hypomanic state of mind.
It is almost impossible for other people in real life to be sure about my mood and the impact their words & actions might have.
On the internet a great amount of clues (body language etc) are missing and the general setting is much more restricted
(to some degree we all are role-playing a character that is not ourselves) which makes things even harder.
The only reasonable course of action under these circumstances is to act as if you were dealing with a rational person.
It will backfire occasionally and might have very sad consequences but "the environment" has so little information and insight that it simply cannot be given the responsibility not to hurt the one who may be prone to depression.


edit: that all being said - your point of view is not uncommon even amongst EVE players. If you have some spare time you might find this thread to be an interesting read:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=27874
I hope your husband gets well soon.

And you playing it is real too. And time spend is "real" too.. As i wrote game is called trust.

Altho He is weak, so i am. But i dont trust anyone, include me. So its kind of pre-emptive strike against such.

Don't blame a game or the players who play it. This is how EVE is suppose to be. Maybe he should try another game less stressful. Hope he gets better soon.