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Citizens on the frontier concerned by Boundless Creation breakthrough

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Alica Wildfire
Industry Network
#41 - 2014-03-18 13:33:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Alica Wildfire
Diana,

I'm not going into this parking problem of you Caldari pilots, I know you don't like to talk about it, but about your concern about sex and things. And slavery. There seem to be some things that the process of brainwashing that you call education in The State seem to ignore.

First of all. There are no bodily fluids that are awkward or icky if dealt in a proper way. A simple fact is that we all are animals with a hybris. The hybris that we are different from animals. Which we are not. Not in function not in psychology or anything. It's just that this hybris tries to negate all prove of our status as animals. Like ignoring our body, our fluids, our virtues or our vices. They don't take man as it is but take an ideal that they form from ideology -religion for Amarr and political ideology for Caldari- and try to make men fit into this form.

And cut off everything that they don't like in the process. But which is making us humans. If you have to cripple a personality to make him fit your idea of humankind then your idea of humankind is crippled. The world of Matar is the other way round. We embrace our nature and let everybody live the life they chose. And deal with the consequences.

To have to right to chose the consequences is true freedom.

And not to let others dictate them for you. And this simple choice is the only freedom we have, we strive for and that you can not take from our hands if we die for it on the battlefields.

There has not been one incident that a Minmatar assault has lead to enslaving of Amarr people. And we have conquered many planets from the Empire. The only slave transports that are on their way are Amarrian. And those Ammatar, who many think of as race traitors. Still we let them live in their own space in Derelik.

The spirit of the Empire that is poisoning the mind of the Minmatar - look at the Ammatar, there you will find it. But you know as well as I that the Republic despises this policy.

And to be back to topic, to have sex over a gravity well is not a question of having a weak body. It's a question of being thrown around, falling forever and things like that. So more a thing for the youth where they can prove their guts and their skill in zero-g environments and have fun with the other sex doing it.

And making more free Minmatar people in the process. It's just a question of time. If it's just about numbers freedom will prevail. I for example find it much more fun to fornicate like an animal than to drop an egg into a test tube.

This is a sick thing. Your parties must be boring as hell, drywedge.

FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS

Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#42 - 2014-03-18 15:30:32 UTC
Um, okay. Sex and parking...we are discussing highschool again on the AieGeeEss. Just make sure you don't stain the leather.

-Eran
Nicolas Merovech
Doomheim
#43 - 2014-03-18 15:53:18 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
They stole Caldari technology!
Remember that Arekjaalan project, or how was it called?
When minmatars took a Caldari scientist with a team, eh?
They stole CALDARI technology!!



From what I remember, your scientist defected. You just can't stop scaring everyone away, can you Kim?

Dr. Nicolas A. Merovech, Ph. D, M.D.

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#44 - 2014-03-18 20:00:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
Ms. Cairi, apologies. On rereading, I do see why the response was warranted. Forgive me, but I'm going to try to make a fine point. This will, unfortunately, delve into business theory and semantics. Let's first differentiate 'research and development' from 'product design.' All firms must engage in product design, else they lack products to sell; this is routine refinement and development with an aim to provide consumers with desirable goods. What I'd consider to be research and development requires at least some amount of work outside the current range of technologies or techniques, in the hope of a decisive competitive advantage in product design. I use profit as a measure here because it's a useful way to indicate successful research and development, which results in an advantage that can then be leveraged.

Boundless Creation is indeed a profitable firm-- but their profits derive from industrial activity in support of the Republic Fleet, and from routine design-work associated with their various hulls. Their only notable R&D success is a shield boost method catalyzed presumably by morphite, which admittedly saved the company from bankruptcy. However, as their profits are largely derived not from successful R&D efforts but instead from fairly routine product design and manufacturing which bears only mild relation to their one R&D success, I don't really consider Boundless Creation to be an R&D firm.

Admittedly, this is making a binary judgment based on something that is certainly more of a spectrum. There is, after all, a reason why my example with the TCMCs indicated that the initial design was developed by SAK; more often than not, new technologies are established after theoretical work or even prototyping by academic institutions, and then focused, funded research to expand the application of a technology by a firm interested in consumer products.

Still, I do hope you understand why I'm wary of congratulating Boundless Creation when we have not yet seen any products developed from the prototype, and the firm has a history of under-delivering.

Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#45 - 2014-03-19 02:03:19 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
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And yea, naked bodies aren't harm. But it is unprofessional and inappropriate. By showing some places you provoke association with bodily functions, that general public prefer to not to think about. Because it is simply disgusting. We are not animals, and we have proper dress codes, we have dignity, we have uniforms. And you?

ROFLMAO. Kimmy, you really ought to let your hair down and give sex a try. Honestly it would do you some good.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Cuci Cairi
#46 - 2014-03-19 04:30:33 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Ms. Cairi, apologies. On rereading, I do see why the response was warranted. Forgive me, but I'm going to try to make a fine point. This will, unfortunately, delve into business theory and semantics. Let's first differentiate 'research and development' from 'product design.' All firms must engage in product design, else they lack products to sell; this is routine refinement and development with an aim to provide consumers with desirable goods. What I'd consider to be research and development requires at least some amount of work outside the current range of technologies or techniques, in the hope of a decisive competitive advantage in product design. I use profit as a measure here because it's a useful way to indicate successful research and development, which results in an advantage that can then be leveraged.

Boundless Creation is indeed a profitable firm-- but their profits derive from industrial activity in support of the Republic Fleet, and from routine design-work associated with their various hulls. Their only notable R&D success is a shield boost method catalyzed presumably by morphite, which admittedly saved the company from bankruptcy. However, as their profits are largely derived not from successful R&D efforts but instead from fairly routine product design and manufacturing which bears only mild relation to their one R&D success, I don't really consider Boundless Creation to be an R&D firm.

Admittedly, this is making a binary judgment based on something that is certainly more of a spectrum. There is, after all, a reason why my example with the TCMCs indicated that the initial design was developed by SAK; more often than not, new technologies are established after theoretical work or even prototyping by academic institutions, and then focused, funded research to expand the application of a technology by a firm interested in consumer products.

Still, I do hope you understand why I'm wary of congratulating Boundless Creation when we have not yet seen any products developed from the prototype, and the firm has a history of under-delivering.


Yes, I understand your distinction now. I myself have little experience in strict R&D, so I do not have a properly formulated metric in my mind for what I would consider a successful R&D firm. Their work appears to be beneficial to their clients and appreciated by the people they work with, so from an outsider's perspective that is enough for me at this point. But then again, I'm not exactly watching the gravity well research news with baited breath.

But all of that is besides the point. As I said, you've made your terms and position clear.
Bryen Verrisai
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2014-03-19 05:32:05 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:

ROFLMAO. Kimmy, you really ought to let your hair down and give sex a try. Honestly it would do you some good.

She's too busy flying high on her favorite Thorax.
Alica Wildfire
Industry Network
#48 - 2014-03-19 08:03:03 UTC
Bryen Verrisai wrote:
She's too busy flying high on her favorite Thorax.


Someone should tell her, what the Thorax looks like. It's like the fairytale of the virgin witch, riding on her… broom.

Maybe Kim should take that broom and brush away some of the spiderwebs that are building up in unused niches then. Make love not webs. There are really some thing beyond your Petri dish, Kimmy, that are quite fun. Maybe we two should join, have a party at Ammamake, get us a pirate und do something about those webs. But maybe pirates don't have the right size of brushes there. There's some serious work to be done, if you ask me.

FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#49 - 2014-03-19 13:06:00 UTC
Alica Wildfire wrote:
Diana,

I'm not going into this parking problem of you Caldari pilots, I know you don't like to talk about it, but about your concern about sex and things. And slavery. There seem to be some things that the process of brainwashing that you call education in The State seem to ignore.

I am afraid you have missed direction. For brainwashing, try gallentean education and their media.
Education in the State, counterwise, is professional and efficient.

Alica Wildfire wrote:

First of all. There are no bodily fluids that are awkward or icky if dealt in a proper way. A simple fact is that we all are animals with a hybris. The hybris that we are different from animals. Which we are not. Not in function not in psychology or anything. It's just that this hybris tries to negate all prove of our status as animals. Like ignoring our body, our fluids, our virtues or our vices. They don't take man as it is but take an ideal that they form from ideology -religion for Amarr and political ideology for Caldari- and try to make men fit into this form.

And cut off everything that they don't like in the process. But which is making us humans. If you have to cripple a personality to make him fit your idea of humankind then your idea of humankind is crippled. The world of Matar is the other way round. We embrace our nature and let everybody live the life they chose. And deal with the consequences.

Erm... about fluids... I am not going to discuss this part of biology on this channel. Really. I could discuss it either in more private channel, or just send you a biology textbook.
As for animals with hybris. Well, if you wish to live as an animal with animals, you are free to do so.
We don't want this.

Alica Wildfire wrote:

To have to right to chose the consequences is true freedom.

And not to let others dictate them for you. And this simple choice is the only freedom we have, we strive for and that you can not take from our hands if we die for it on the battlefields.

Yep, yep. For example, choosing to not having punishment for theft or murder.

Alica Wildfire wrote:

There has not been one incident that a Minmatar assault has lead to enslaving of Amarr people. And we have conquered many planets from the Empire. The only slave transports that are on their way are Amarrian. And those Ammatar, who many think of as race traitors. Still we let them live in their own space in Derelik.

The spirit of the Empire that is poisoning the mind of the Minmatar - look at the Ammatar, there you will find it. But you know as well as I that the Republic despises this policy.

You are right, that Minmatars from the Republic won't enslave any of Amarr, until the Empire will fall, luckily that will never happen. On the other hand, there are things like Angel Cartel, and other criminal organizations, where a Minmatar can be engaged in slavery. In fact, I remember a certain pirate Minmatar capsule pilot, who was rather excited about getting some slaves for her.

Alica Wildfire wrote:

And to be back to topic, to have sex over a gravity well is not a question of having a weak body. It's a question of being thrown around, falling forever and things like that. So more a thing for the youth where they can prove their guts and their skill in zero-g environments and have fun with the other sex doing it.

And making more free Minmatar people in the process. It's just a question of time. If it's just about numbers freedom will prevail. I for example find it much more fun to fornicate like an animal than to drop an egg into a test tube.

This is a sick thing. Your parties must be boring as hell, drywedge.

The procedure itself takes about from 10 minutes to one hour, sorry, I don't have exact statistics, but I guess I hit the correct time frame. If you are too bored during it and can't just do the procedure without entertainment, you could watch some holo-reels while doing it, or listen to music. Or you might play games, like, I don't know. Chess?

But, IMHO, concentrating so much of fun and entertainment is a gallentean thing. You shouldn't be a hedonist. Just do your duty to make a child, I doubt you will die from dedicating about 30 minutes of your time for it. Anyway, next 9 months you will be busy growing a child inside you.

And, really... "fornicating like an animal", sounds so disgusting!! We are humans after all, have some decency, woman!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Alica Wildfire
Industry Network
#50 - 2014-03-19 20:43:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Alica Wildfire
Ten minutes?! One hour?! You mean one hour before the quarter-break for water?

You Caldari are without a clue about having real fun, are you? And, yes, I prefer to feel behave and move like an animal doing it. And not thinking about how I fulfill my duty to produce new soldiers for the State. Or beginning to recite scriptures and falling into a religious dispute about if some jerk thousand years ago might have done it to his mother or not and if that is a sin or not for him or if that is is implying to fornicate your mother as something to do to praise god.

Or whatever. And we don't film ourselves doing it and posting it to the next news-corporation like the Gallente. Well, I'd say better that than Scriptures or Propaganda.

Sex is good for you. It's good for your self-esteem. For your health. For your family. For your well-being. For your soul, if you believe in it and for having just a good time.

You may believing that dropping an egg for the state is your duty. Maybe. You may think that to hold forth doing it is the right thing and that in every inch of yourself you should deny the animal that you are.

I don't think so.

I will grunt and moan and scream and be naughty, loud, vulgar and having a lot of fun doing it. And I'm not ashamed to behave like an animal. At least nobody ever started to yawn when we were doing it. Which might happen if you start reciting scriptures or loudly praising the State. But I admit, the idea has some comedy in it. I might try that out as a role-play some day. But can't promise that I won't start laughing my ass off.

But for all those drywedges out there, I have a suggestion. You should try to do something dirty and biological from time to time. It's fun. And you feel more relaxed after that.

FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#51 - 2014-03-21 05:28:33 UTC
Alica Wildfire wrote:
Ten minutes?! One hour?! You mean one hour before the quarter-break for water?

Ma'am, if this easy procedure takes you so much time, you should consult med personnel.
Or use artificial impregnation.
Or do this procedure under supervision of trained personnel.

Alica Wildfire wrote:

You Caldari are without a clue about having real fun, are you? And, yes, I prefer to feel behave and move like an animal doing it. And not thinking about how I fulfill my duty to produce new soldiers for the State. Or beginning to recite scriptures and falling into a religious dispute about if some jerk thousand years ago might have done it to his mother or not and if that is a sin or not for him or if that is is implying to fornicate your mother as something to do to praise god.

Or whatever. And we don't film ourselves doing it and posting it to the next news-corporation like the Gallente. Well, I'd say better that than Scriptures or Propaganda.

This is all perversions.

Alica Wildfire wrote:

Sex is good for you. It's good for your self-esteem. For your health. For your family. For your well-being. For your soul, if you believe in it and for having just a good time.

It is good only for one purpose: making children.

Alica Wildfire wrote:

You may believing that dropping an egg for the state is your duty. Maybe. You may think that to hold forth doing it is the right thing and that in every inch of yourself you should deny the animal that you are.

I don't think so.

I will grunt and moan and scream and be naughty, loud, vulgar and having a lot of fun doing it. And I'm not ashamed to behave like an animal. At least nobody ever started to yawn when we were doing it. Which might happen if you start reciting scriptures or loudly praising the State. But I admit, the idea has some comedy in it. I might try that out as a role-play some day. But can't promise that I won't start laughing my ass off.

But for all those drywedges out there, I have a suggestion. You should try to do something dirty and biological from time to time. It's fun. And you feel more relaxed after that.

If you want to disgrace yourself this way... think about your ancestors first. I don't think anyone would be happy if their children would degrade into primal state of development.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Alica Wildfire
Industry Network
#52 - 2014-03-23 15:00:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Alica Wildfire
Diana Kim wrote:
Alica Wildfire wrote:
Ten minutes?! One hour?! You mean one hour before the quarter-break for water?

Ma'am, if this easy procedure takes you so much time, you should consult med personnel.
Or use artificial impregnation.
Or do this procedure under supervision of trained personnel.

Dear Dryana,

I think you are right. Sometimes the men need medical attention after two hours or so. It's a kind of sport and it's not a sport for the unskilled. That you call sport as a disgrace means that you just have alienated yourself from your own body and your bodily needs.

Sex is not for making children. It's not what you think of when doing it anyway. If you are not with mind and body on one task you don't do it right. That's all I say. And maybe there is much to learn from the basic instinct we all follow than you might know. I can offer you a tour through infamous lowsec quarters that are known to rise your spirit and bring you down to the point zero of your soul.

The point where you lose the "I" and "you", the rare moments you can see yourself in it's complete beauty. It's one of the ways to have a vision, an epiphany and that moment can change your whole life. I offer myself as a guide for this travel, if you like.

And I will promise, you will cost more bodily fluids than you'll ever would have imagined yourself and you will like it.

It's our real self. Not what State or Religion dictates us what we should be. You can say anything about Minmatar culture but at least we have the better parties. I promise.

Lot's of men, lot's of women. Body, sweat, fluids, rhythm, dive into your inner soul. That's what I'm talking about. If you get pregnant it's a bonus. Got pregged three times. One time was podded by an Amarrian 24th Crusader, one time by a pirate in a smart bomb battleship the third time I paused my capsuleer career for to give birth to my child. Without giving the Amarrian abortionists a chance this time. Well, the father has gone but who needs a father these days? I'm a capsuleer. I am capable to feed whole planets, so it will be enough for a single child.

FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS

Jonas Wickonian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2014-03-23 15:25:41 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
To Alica Wildfire


At least we don't have slavery problem. You know, why Caldari of all major empires (like Minmatar, Amarr, and even Gallente, yes yes, Gallente were slavers and slaves too!) never developed slavery? Because for Caldari becoming a slave to whom they lost is a disgrace, and Caldari prefer death to it. Your people were destined to be slaves. You aren't warriors, you aren't soldiers. You are servants. The only good minmatar warriors are Kameiras, and only because the Empire train them.



Caldari never had slaves, well thats true, this may be because slavery was already abolished in the Gallente Federation when you seceded from it, your state did have slaves but at the time you weren't an independent state, so your statement of never having slaves is a technicality.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#54 - 2014-03-23 15:33:22 UTC
Jonas Wickonian wrote:

Caldari never had slaves, well thats true, this may be because slavery was already abolished in the Gallente Federation when you seceded from it, your state did have slaves but at the time you weren't an independent state, so your statement of never having slaves is a technicality.


You're full of ****.

The Caldari people have no history of enslaving other races or each other.

Katrina Oniseki

Jonas Wickonian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2014-03-23 16:05:50 UTC
only the same amount as kim, i used her claim that the gallente federation used slavery in the past. if the gallente federation used slavery by that logic then whilst being part of the gallente federation caldari used it as well. this is complete bull as the gallente federation has never used slavery, yes a single nation prior to the formation of the federation used it, but the federation itself has not.
Gyra Wickonian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2014-03-23 16:27:52 UTC
I must apologise for my cousin, he has had some, unique, experiences with the caldari state which has made him some what prejudiced, despite his claims otherwise, that with his lack of education. I mean we were miners after all, the fact we managed to become capsuleers and, at least in my case, attend prominent universities is a miracle.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#57 - 2014-03-24 03:30:23 UTC
Alica Wildfire wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Alica Wildfire wrote:
Ten minutes?! One hour?! You mean one hour before the quarter-break for water?

Ma'am, if this easy procedure takes you so much time, you should consult med personnel.
Or use artificial impregnation.
Or do this procedure under supervision of trained personnel.

Dear Dryana,

I think you are right. Sometimes the men need medical attention after two hours or so. It's a kind of sport and it's not a sport for the unskilled. That you call sport as a disgrace means that you just have alienated yourself from your own body and your bodily needs.

Sex is not for making children. It's not what you think of when doing it anyway. If you are not with mind and body on one task you don't do it right. That's all I say. And maybe there is much to learn from the basic instinct we all follow than you might know. I can offer you a tour through infamous lowsec quarters that are known to rise your spirit and bring you down to the point zero of your soul.

The point where you lose the "I" and "you", the rare moments you can see yourself in it's complete beauty. It's one of the ways to have a vision, an epiphany and that moment can change your whole life. I offer myself as a guide for this travel, if you like.

And I will promise, you will cost more bodily fluids than you'll ever would have imagined yourself and you will like it.

It's our real self. Not what State or Religion dictates us what we should be. You can say anything about Minmatar culture but at least we have the better parties. I promise.

Lot's of men, lot's of women. Body, sweat, fluids, rhythm, dive into your inner soul. That's what I'm talking about. If you get pregnant it's a bonus. Got pregged three times. One time was podded by an Amarrian 24th Crusader, one time by a pirate in a smart bomb battleship the third time I paused my capsuleer career for to give birth to my child. Without giving the Amarrian abortionists a chance this time. Well, the father has gone but who needs a father these days? I'm a capsuleer. I am capable to feed whole planets, so it will be enough for a single child.

Ms. Wildfire...

You are not right about sex, because it is indeed a process of making children. I can send you biology textbooks if you will want, as I don't want to discuss it in this way.

Oh, and I have quarters in lowsec.

And in the State, we indeed try to lose "I" and "you" for "We".

And I get rid of enough bodily fluids, so, thanks, no. Don't need more. Really. Absolutely.

And you are too careless about children

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#58 - 2014-03-24 04:37:49 UTC
Sex isn't just for making children. It can also be fun, and a good way to get to know your lover.
That being said, why are we arguing personal preferences with Kimmy? She is steadfast in her belief that everyone should be a mindless drone loyal to Tibbie and the state.What?

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Alica Wildfire
Industry Network
#59 - 2014-03-24 15:43:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Alica Wildfire
Diana Kim wrote:

You are not right about sex, because it is indeed a process of making children. I can send you biology textbooks if you will want, as I don't want to discuss it in this way.


Man has three major instincts. Playing. Having Sex. Eating and survival. In this order. In the best case all three come together. It's called party. Children and pregnancy can be a side-effect of having a good time. They are not the reason we do it.

Quote:
Oh, and I have quarters in lowsec.

Great! Use the great opportunities.

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And in the State, we indeed try to lose "I" and "you" for "We".

That's not the same. There's no WE in LIVING. But two I's and a V like…

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And I get rid of enough bodily fluids, so, thanks, no. Don't need more. Really. Absolutely.

You really should try. It's not the fluids that are of interest but how to get to the point to receive them. If you work hard on yourself life will come to you like water. If you don't set your foot into the river you never can be in the flow. It is just a landscape that you can might fear because you think, you can't swim. But we can. Some scientists say we have been evolving from aquatic mammals. To feel the flow is one of the great adventures for a human being. You start living the first nine months living in water. It's like living in nullsec. You feel freedom the moment you enter. Because freedom was given to you before birth but people alway try to take it away from you.

With the flow it is the same. Dip in or let dip in.

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And you are too careless about children

I'm not. I don't like to talk about the two incidents but as a capsuleer duty is coming before private life. I had duty to fulfill for the Republic and for my Corp and for my friends. I mourn about the two lost children but 33% of children are lost before birth anyway. It was always like that or worse. Especially for Minmatars under the whip.

And from all people I know you, I thought, would understand the aspect of duty best. My first duty is to be a capsuleer. My second is to be a mother. I am now a better capsuleer because I am a mother, I think. Such experience changes you. You have more fun killing the people that deny your rights to live the life you are born for after that.

You, if I may say so, focus too much on duty. See, the wise man points to the moon. "Do you see the moon?", he asked his student. His students eyes follow the finger of his teacher. He slaps on his head. "Don't focus on the finger, or you don't see the moon. Don't focus on the moon, or you don't see the way." His student faltered.

He got enlightened.

It's not from me. I just ripped it from a wise Vherokior book about a teacher and his student. Forgot the title. You will find it, if you are looking for it anyway. Could be from a movie, too. Whatever it's one of those great warrior wisdoms.

P.S:
I had people asking me back that time. "Why didn't you park your child in an inactive clone?" Because I want my children to live. And not to be parked. I believe in what I'm doing. I do it from the depth of my heart. It is what I am. I don't try to cheat a way around the simple facts of life.

A fisher once was asked: "Is it dangerous out there?" "I guess, he said. My father died out on sea. My grandfather didn't return and two of my brothers are lost to the sea." "Gosh, why then do you return to the sea?"
"Let me ask you a question in return", the fisher said. "Where did your father die?" "In bed." "Where did your grandfather and your grandmother die?" "Both died in bed." "So, why do you return to your bed every night?"

FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS

Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2014-03-24 16:36:32 UTC
You really need to do yourself a favor and block Diana.

You have a better chance of convincing a rock to fly.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.