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Save the Rorqual!
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Lucius Saturninus
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-03-23 14:56:17 UTC
So it’s not that the Rorqual is getting nerfed, it’s that the new Compression Array effectively does (under the new system) everything you can do with a Rorqual.

It doesn’t make the Rorqual completely worthless, just redundant for anything other than large mining boosts. Since Rorqual’s, in general, never leave the shield bubble.

What really needs to happen here is the Rorqual needs to be given some additional benefits that either:

- Change the Ship so that it makes sense to deploy it outside the Shield Bubble, and risk it as part of a mobile mining fleet operation.
- Give it additional bonuses beyond what the Compression Array has, so it’s still useful within a Shield Bubble

We need people to post to this thread to let CCP know that we have spent a lot of ISK and Training time to use a Rorqual and don’t want to see it kicked down the road to “maybe” be fixed at some later patch.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#2 - 2014-03-23 14:59:03 UTC
Are you talking about WH deployment?

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2014-03-23 15:14:10 UTC
It is going to get seen to at a later date.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#4 - 2014-03-23 15:20:54 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
at a later date

Is that a longer or shorter period of time than soon(tm)?

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2014-03-23 15:24:42 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
at a later date

Is that a longer or shorter period of time than soon(tm)?


All time in EVE is soon(tm)
Mai Khumm
172.0.0.1
#6 - 2014-03-23 15:37:45 UTC
Summer expansion is Indy based, give it a month...
Shadowlightt
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-03-23 15:38:43 UTC
Lucius Saturninus wrote:
So it’s not that the Rorqual is getting nerfed, it’s that the new Compression Array effectively does (under the new system) everything you can do with a Rorqual.

It doesn’t make the Rorqual completely worthless, just redundant for anything other than large mining boosts. Since Rorqual’s, in general, never leave the shield bubble.

What really needs to happen here is the Rorqual needs to be given some additional benefits that either:

- Change the Ship so that it makes sense to deploy it outside the Shield Bubble, and risk it as part of a mobile mining fleet operation.
- Give it additional bonuses beyond what the Compression Array has, so it’s still useful within a Shield Bubble

We need people to post to this thread to let CCP know that we have spent a lot of ISK and Training time to use a Rorqual and don’t want to see it kicked down the road to “maybe” be fixed at some later patch.

I didn't waste any of my money on the now useless rorqual :) best thing to do now is to sell it huh?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#8 - 2014-03-23 15:41:27 UTC
1. It's mobile; POSes are not.
2. Cap rebalancing is coming.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#9 - 2014-03-23 15:42:08 UTC
Or reprocess it.

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Lucius Saturninus
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-03-23 15:44:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucius Saturninus
Erotica 1 wrote:
Or reprocess it.


I have to reprocess it before the patch otherwise I'll only get 53% of it. Roll
Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#11 - 2014-03-23 16:22:29 UTC
Lucius Saturninus wrote:
I have to reprocess it before the patch otherwise I'll only get 53% of it. Roll

Touche'.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
#12 - 2014-03-23 17:04:54 UTC
Tippia wrote:
2. Cap rebalancing is coming.
I'm not gonna sleep tonight.
Thanks Tippia.
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#13 - 2014-03-23 17:10:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Noxisia Arkana
Save the whales!

But, yeah, announcing that you plan on obsoleting a ship and have no plans to do anything different with it is a little rough.

Edit: My apologies, there was a mention of something needing to be done, maybe my annoyance was over not having any specific plan.
Dave Stark
#14 - 2014-03-23 17:22:18 UTC
Lucius Saturninus wrote:
It doesn’t make the Rorqual completely worthless, just redundant for anything other than large mining boosts. Since Rorqual’s, in general, never leave the shield bubble.


so, this changes absolutely nothing then? hence, it's not getting nerfed at all and it's basically being completely untouched.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#15 - 2014-03-23 17:54:50 UTC
Mai Khumm wrote:
Summer expansion is Indy based, give it a month...

Well, if not then there's always the next ...

And "Summer is coming" doesn't quite have the same ring to it ...

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#16 - 2014-03-23 18:08:59 UTC
Lets just wait and see what half-baked Rorq rebalance idea Rozzie comes up with before we go on a hippy hunger strike to save it...mmkay?






Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#17 - 2014-03-23 18:11:04 UTC
did you not read the dev post? they say that they know this will effect the rorq, and its getting a re-balance soon(tm)

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#18 - 2014-03-23 18:21:30 UTC
Alphea Abbra wrote:
Tippia wrote:
2. Cap rebalancing is coming.
I'm not gonna sleep tonight.
Thanks Tippia.


well dont worry too much... we still have the rest of tech II to balance not to mention the rest of Pirate ships... then after all the polishing passes for that stuff then they will go after cap ships... so in reality we are talking about summer 2015 before cap ships are re-balanced.

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Nimrod vanHall
Van Mij Belastingvrij
#19 - 2014-03-23 18:28:00 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Alphea Abbra wrote:
Tippia wrote:
2. Cap rebalancing is coming.
I'm not gonna sleep tonight.
Thanks Tippia.


well dont worry too much... we still have the rest of tech II to balance not to mention the rest of Pirate ships... then after all the polishing passes for that stuff then they will go after cap ships... so in reality we are talking about summer 2015 before cap ships are re-balanced.


The rebalancing seems to be picking up speed so Capital rebalance may be there a (little) bit earlier.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#20 - 2014-03-23 18:29:11 UTC
Lors Dornick wrote:
Mai Khumm wrote:
Summer expansion is Indy based, give it a month...

Well, if not then there's always the next ...

And "Summer is coming" doesn't quite have the same ring to it ...

Yeah, it's "Spring" and its -10c outside...

...
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