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Ingame Macro builder

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Alia Ravenswing
DARK HAT
#1 - 2014-03-23 01:20:50 UTC
We need an in-game macro builder. Like a small spreadsheet that we can customize special calculations with our own formulas. and then we can right click on them to activate.

For example If I wanted to know how long it would take for me to get to an object, I could right click on it, and select a "Time to intercept" macro, which would simply take my ships current speed x .1, then take the distance to the object (in Kilometers) and divide by (my ships speed x .1) then divide by 60 which would give me the number of minutes to the target.

We all use spreadsheets so much anyway, so why not have them built into the game, just like the browser and calculator and notepad. All calculations would be done on the local machine. but you could save the "worksheets" or save them as a macro, to be used by you or somebody else in your corporation.

Comments?
Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#2 - 2014-03-23 01:35:26 UTC
No, we don't need easier ways to not actually play the game and just automate everything.

Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword

Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#3 - 2014-03-23 01:39:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Alia Ravenswing wrote:
We all use spreadsheets so much anyway, so why not have them built into the game...


Historically, they probably weren't thought of back when the game code was first being developed.

Some things like the in game browser, mail, calendar and calculator were, but I guess that in game spreadsheets, variables and a series of macro's was either not important or the early developers didn't want to spend the time developing that expertise.

Now however, my comment would be, CCP should continue doing what they do best and for other aspects like spreadsheets, there are already alternatives that EvE could never hope to match and/or a third-party developer community that provide some of these tools.
Trevor Dalech
Nobody in Local
Of Sound Mind
#4 - 2014-03-23 04:13:32 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
If I am moving at 2135m/s towards an object 113km distant, a quick mental calculation tells me this will take a bit over 50 seconds. Another rough estimate tells me that if i turn around, go 40km the other way and use the "warp to" option (if available) this will take about 20 seconds plus warp time. I can't for the life of me imagine a situation where you would need to be more precise than that, let alone why you would want to macro it and build a spreadsheet of such values.

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

The only thing i know which would require real precision is market calculations, as margins can be quite thin. Excel or google docs is quite sufficient for that, so let's let ccp just keep on making a game instead of trying to outdo Microsoft/google.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-03-23 04:48:58 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Trevor Dalech wrote:
If I am moving at 2135m/s towards an object 113km distant, a quick mental calculation tells me this will take a bit over 50 seconds. Another rough estimate tells me that if i turn around, go 40km the other way and use the "warp to" option (if available) this will take about 20 seconds plus warp time. I can't for the life of me imagine a situation where you would need to be more precise than that, let alone why you would want to macro it and build a spreadsheet of such values.

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

The only thing i know which would require real precision is market calculations, as margins can be quite thin. Excel or google docs is quite sufficient for that, so let's let ccp just keep on making a game instead of trying to outdo Microsoft/google.

its called "botting"
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-03-23 05:11:23 UTC
Lykouleon wrote:
No, we don't need easier ways to not actually play the game and just automate everything.


So you're quitting your alliance in protest?

~ Professional Forum Alt  ~

Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#7 - 2014-03-23 09:40:33 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
Lykouleon wrote:
No, we don't need easier ways to not actually play the game and just automate everything.


So you're quitting your alliance in protest?

he didn't even read OP

i just locked an open door.. strange, yet symbolically compelling.

Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#8 - 2014-03-23 09:42:13 UTC
no
Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
#9 - 2014-03-23 10:39:42 UTC
Haha

Zimmy Zeta - I f*cking love martinis. the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. Your old Friends can use me for 7 days, free!!!

Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#10 - 2014-03-23 10:42:53 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Alia Ravenswing wrote:

We all use spreadsheets so much anyway


Who is this *we*, *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#11 - 2014-03-23 16:12:34 UTC
Enough spreadsheets already…Give me eye candy!!

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#12 - 2014-03-23 16:56:07 UTC
Is a Construction-Mech a macro-builder?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-03-23 18:31:29 UTC
useful for high-sec gankers tracking freighters.

this is efficiency - can the ganker gank freighter A, loot it, and be in tim to intercept freighter B on a different route?
Serene Repose
#14 - 2014-03-23 19:37:05 UTC
A "game" with an array of attendant software to please the AR/OC among us? Gee. I always love deleting useless icons from my toolbars. The more the merrier! We also need an automated meal planner, and an in-game, localized television listing so we won't miss any Family Guy episodes!

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Alia Ravenswing
DARK HAT
#15 - 2014-04-11 19:00:47 UTC

Trevor Dalech wrote:
The only thing i know which would require real precision is market calculations, as margins can be quite thin. Excel or google docs is quite sufficient for that, so let's let ccp just keep on making a game instead of trying to outdo Microsoft/google.


It was just one such example, but market calculations could be another use for it. I for example have a spreadsheet I use to calculate payout to players who participate in wormhole sleeper operations. The spreadsheet takes into account, the number of waves that each pilot participated, the total number of pilots involved, and the total sale of all the loot.

Then of course there are others, like calculating the coordinate of attack points for stealth bombers, a specific distance away from a target, yet not rick damaging other bombers (via bomb drop) or accidently decloaking them (not in same fleet).

Another example would be to calculate the amount of time it takes you in a specific ship to get from one system to another. Acceleration varies from ship to ship and fit to fit. Speed of warp also varies, as does inertia, and the distance between gates. Wouldn't it be nice to have a macro where you simply select and it gives your ETA to the other fleet that are meeting you there? Or ETA to the other ship that just sent our an S.O.S.?

Think of the possibilities.
Solecist Project
#16 - 2014-04-11 19:10:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
If your brain isn't able to do that by itself, then you really have worse issues than needing a macro.

Seriously, after a week in my 10mn AB rifter in my first month of playing I was able to accurately
reach any object in space after slowing down from full speed, without going past it.

Yes, I always fly my ships manually.


Brains. You have them. Use them.


All you want is CCP to remove the need of finding your own tools or using your own brain.


No.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#17 - 2014-04-12 01:41:51 UTC
This thread is moved to Features & Ideas Discussion.

I also have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.
Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!

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PrettyMuch Always Right
Doomheim
#18 - 2014-04-12 02:29:40 UTC  |  Edited by: PrettyMuch Always Right
It would be extremely useful for quickly calculating how much longer you should wait to release the strip miner from a piece of ore being mined. I can do the calculation in my head, but I'd prefer not to for 8 separate barges.

Ignore the haters; they can't think of a use for it therefore it's useless. Typical EVE-O poster logic. Why anyone would be against additional features that don't have any impact on them if they choose not to use it is beyond me.

+1
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#19 - 2014-04-12 03:45:34 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
A "game" with an array of attendant software to please the AR/OC among us? Gee. I always love deleting useless icons from my toolbars. The more the merrier! We also need an automated meal planner, and an in-game, localized television listing so we won't miss any Family Guy episodes!


You must admit, however, that an automated meal planner might be the only way some members of the community actually get advice on what to eat other than pork rinds and cheap beer.
Alia Ravenswing
DARK HAT
#20 - 2014-05-11 15:57:22 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
A "game" with an array of attendant software to please the AR/OC among us? Gee. I always love deleting useless icons from my toolbars. The more the merrier! We also need an automated meal planner, and an in-game, localized television listing so we won't miss any Family Guy episodes!


Already there. You can actually watch Family guy in your Captains quarters.
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