Player Features and Ideas Discussion

We should have cloaks of varying sizes--small, medium, large, extra large.

The tech 1, prototype, and covert ops cloaks would remain but there would be a variant for each size.

Cloaks should also have a massive cap drain thus requiring charges to keep them running, ideally the same cap charges we have in game. Each sized cap charge would correspond to the size of the module--e.g. Cap Booster 800 can be used for XL cloaks. A cloak with full charges would be active for a specific period of time. For example, a full charge would get you an hour of active cloak with the tech 1 version. The cloak skill would increase the duration of the charges by a percentage, say 5% increase per level. The cloak variants would have attributes that would extend the life of the cycle such as increased charge capacity, longer cycle time, faster reload, etc.

Reloading charges would take 60 seconds, forcing the player to actually interact with the game as opposed to just sitting in space for hours on end without doing anything, and allow the opposing player time to track down the cloaked ship.

As long as the cycle times can be long enough--say an hour for a full charge with a tech 1 module with minimum skills--for bomber fleets to coordinate and execute bombing runs, or for black ops gangs to pounce on unsuspecting targets, this change would not have a detrimental affect on covert warfare.

Posting in cloaked nerf cloaking thread.

Thank you for the constructive feedback.

Pretty sure this one decloaked before posting.

This thread comes up on almost a weekly basis. In fact, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a nerf cloaking thread in the first 2 pages on this forum section. Almost every single one of them goes like this:

1. OP posts a post with a new (lol) idea that always boils down to some variation of the following:
- "There's a big meanie who is sitting in my system and not doing anything, but I don't know where he is and I can't ever just go next door. I can't find said meanie and even though I know that he's probably at work and poses no threat at all, I wont do anything in my system that I absolutely can't leave ever because he might not be at work and I might lose a ship. CCP please stop the meanie from being able to do nothing to me because he's probably at work"

2. Thread gets trolled because its been done literally to death. This horse has been beaten so hard and so often that it's little more than a memory of a memory of a red smear on the grass, and yet it STILL WONT DIE! In fact it's been done so many times that this particular horse is now undead; even if it does die, it will still be remembered and parodied.

3. Someone comes along and suggests that AFK cloakers can't hurt you, because they are, by their very definition, AFK. No one ever lost a ship to someone who ISN'T PLAYING THE GAME.

4. Someone else comes along and points out that while the cloaker might be AFK, he might not be, and so we have Schrodinger's Hot Dropper. The cyno pilot who might be AFK... but he might not be as well, and you will only know for sure when he decloaks, points and lights his candle. (Yes, I know this isn't how the cat works)

5. Someone else comes along and suggests that you use bait and setup a TARP. Or have a defence fleet on standby. Heaven forbid you have to actually fight to defend your space.

6. A further person comes along and suggests that the problem isn't cloaking AFK in your system that you can't possibly leave ever, but that you KNOW that the person is AFK in your system... and perhaps local should be removed because free 100% accurate intel is probably not the best thing in the game and if you didn't know that the big meanie was in your system, you wouldn't be worried about leaving the undock/POS.

7. Then another person pokes their head in and complains that local is 100% NEEDED because D-Scan and probing are such bad mechanics, and IF YOU TAKE MY LOCAL AWAY IM QUITTING FOREVER AND NO YOU CAN'T HAVE MY STUFF!

8. Someone asks if they can have 7's stuff.

We end up with another thread which goes on for pages and pages between complains about local, defence fleets, inability to just go next door, people who aren't playing the game but are playing the meta, lots of bickering and in the end nothing gets solved. CCP wont remove cloaking because it would mess with waaay too many things and it creates content (which is a good thing) by removing content (which is a bad thing) but they can't really think of any way to do it without a complete overhaul of the local and scanning systems.

Now that I've had this entire thread's conversation, can we just let it die? Please?

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Your idea is **** like all the "nerf cloacks!!!!!!!!!1111111111" Threads before so.... yeah... please read the previous threads and maybe, just maybe, use your brain.

Good luck with thatm its a lot of work.

Thread is being locked as the topic has been completely beaten to death, and leaving it open will only encourage the trolls.