Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I support this. I would just like to see this whole thing extended to all t2 modules.

We have always found it pretty strange that there are meta 1..2...3...4...5 items where the meta 5 are quite often just plain worse than the meta 4. While they require more skill points are often more expensive and have a shiny t2 tag on their icon. They should actually be better. (not talking balancing here)

I think stream lining this meta 5 vs meta 4 would help the game a great deal and also give the proper appreciation to folks who train the skills that bit higher. Especially when looking at relatively new players. For 100M+ skill point chars it wont matter anyway...

you're a little off the mark there but i get the gist of it..
the T2 would just excel at the main function of the module so for webs it would be strength...
and people should be willing to train the lv5 skill for the improved attribute of the module ..and the extra fitting required.

the meta options would be just that adding options but not improving the main purpose of the module..
so for webs they would offer options like reduced cpu/cap .. offer improved range .. but would have less strength than the T2 and would have drawbacks like lower strength/higher cap usage depending on the bonus increase .. but would still have lower skill requirements ..

There was a time when the meta MWD drops were much more rare. Then one day they started dropping from every other wreck and became dirt cheap. I don't remember which expansion that was. It does seem like they are a little too common.

But there's no excuse for increasing the speed by 20% (from 500% to 600%) or the overload bonus by 40% (from 50% to 70%).

An overloaded microwarpdrive is already pretty powerful. It's the difference between an average frigate going 3100 m/s without overload to suddenly bursting up to 4400 m/s. 1300 m/s is faster than most frigates will go with an afterburner, and this is an increase over the 3100 m/s velocity it already has. In most cases it's not possible to react to this in time to catch a fleeing target because the module cannot be instantly overloaded (it has a lengthy cycle time). If the bonus was 70% we'd be talking about another 520 m/s.

It probably translates a little more sanely into the 10mn variation with cruisers, but thought needs to be given to all facets here.

* all numbers rounded slightly (always down) for readability.

Meh the problems with the T2 mwds are in the game since 2008, with the QR changes(before that it did give more speed).

I would simply reduce the cap penalty to -12 or even -10%. The higher fitting costs and higher cap use are enough of a penalty already, making it at least a option on hulls that just use it to burn back to the gate or quicker aligns.

I fly ceptors like everyday, it's what im best at. The T2 MWD is really fail, as stated before. +1 to address this issue.

2% really?

Capacitor: -17% vs Capacitor: -19% can be huge difference when taking skills into account. I see no real reason to chance t2 mwd's without reconsidering all the other prop mods along with them. I fly with my t2 mwd for 2 reasons... 1 better cap and 2 USE ALL THE FITTING!!!

You realize that is only a benefit on ships that permarun their MWD. If you intend on using it sparingly the T2 is better.

Personally I hate if things become more linear in EVE. In some cases it's nice when meta4 is better than T2. It make people think better before blindly fitting everything T2. For me it gives the game more depth.

You can let people thinking by themselves without creating modules Tech2 worse than Meta 4.
if you look at Factional and Deep Space items you can see that their meta levels are different and that their statistices are very differents.
Some are easier to fit, some take less capacitor, some give better signature. Here should be the choice. Why a Tech2 item should be worse than a meta4 in every way: Same Signature, Same Speed Bonus more capasitor use, a capacitor reduction very close (The 2% defference do not overcome the capacitor activation cost), more skills needed and a bigger price...
Seriously If I celarly see an impact between deepsace modules and the meta4 the difference between meta4 and Tech 2 MWD really doesn't worth...

Tech2 Microwarpdrives and Afterburners should be modified to give players a real reason to use them.