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High sec Mission runners just got completely screwed by CCP

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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#321 - 2014-03-21 20:42:51 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:


Maybe you should read the dev blog before posting then.
I had to reread it to realize it was not a 27.6% nerf to all mission loot, but a 45%-50% nerf.


But its not a nerf to all mission loot. Its only the stuff not worth selling which makes up 3.7% of the total earning from your average level 4 which is 1.3% lower than the nerf null sec just saw to anom income.

You were all in favour of that nerf.


Love the numbers you pull out of thin air.

And hate to break it to you, but I have a whole hangar full of meta 4 stuff that will actually be reprocessed, because much of the stuff sells for mineral value now. Have a look at, oh, I dunno, large smartbombs, 1600 mm plates, 100 MwD Ab's and MwD's, just for a start.

So yeah, the MAJORITY of the value of my loot hangar is going to be reprocessed.
Sure, the Balmer's and medium meta 4 shield extenders will of course be sold off. But they are so rare to start, they make up a tiny amount of stuff pulled out of a mission.

I really don't know why I respond to a goon.
Even when you simply exhale, you spin fantasies.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#322 - 2014-03-21 20:42:55 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Now we need a "firesale" button that sells everything to the current station's highest buy order without asking for any confirmation everything you have currently selected in the current window. Because all those piles of different items are pissing me off. I don't care if someone is making market ass-hatterry and I get a bit less money total, I just want less clicks.
contract it to me from anywhere in highsec at 60% of the evepraisal jita price then.

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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#323 - 2014-03-21 20:44:39 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

Maybe you should read the dev blog before posting then.
I had to reread it to realize it was not a 27.6% nerf to all mission loot, but a 45%-50% nerf.
But its not all mission loot, its only some of it. So a flat 45% reduction to income it is not. A 45% reduction to the loot that's low enough in value that the only option is to reprocess.

To be honest i don't know why people still respond to your tinfoil battery. It's always well into the realm of exaggeration.


You can stop posting any time now.
I give you leave to stop posting in my thread, if it causes you so much discomfort.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#324 - 2014-03-21 20:45:51 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:


Maybe you should read the dev blog before posting then.
I had to reread it to realize it was not a 27.6% nerf to all mission loot, but a 45%-50% nerf.


But its not a nerf to all mission loot. Its only the stuff not worth selling which makes up 3.7% of the total earning from your average level 4 which is 1.3% lower than the nerf null sec just saw to anom income.

You were all in favour of that nerf.


Love the numbers you pull out of thin air.

And hate to break it to you, but I have a whole hangar full of meta 4 stuff that will actually be reprocessed, because much of the stuff sells for mineral value now. Have a look at, oh, I dunno, large smartbombs, 1600 mm plates, 100 MwD Ab's and MwD's, just for a start.

So yeah, the MAJORITY of the value of my loot hangar is going to be reprocessed.
Sure, the Balmer's and medium meta 4 shield extenders will of course be sold off. But they are so rare to start, they make up a tiny amount of stuff pulled out of a mission.

I really don't know why I respond to a goon.
Even when you simply exhale, you spin fantasies.

so when you mission, you never get salvage, bounties, rewards, lp, nothing like that no? And if most of your hangar is being refined, you ar valuing wrongly or the unluckiest guy ever.

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admiral root
Red Galaxy
#325 - 2014-03-21 20:46:11 UTC
Yes, GTFO, Lucas. Facts have no place here - this is a tinfoil thread and you keep ruining it.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#326 - 2014-03-21 20:47:14 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

Maybe you should read the dev blog before posting then.
I had to reread it to realize it was not a 27.6% nerf to all mission loot, but a 45%-50% nerf.
But its not all mission loot, its only some of it. So a flat 45% reduction to income it is not. A 45% reduction to the loot that's low enough in value that the only option is to reprocess.

To be honest i don't know why people still respond to your tinfoil battery. It's always well into the realm of exaggeration.


You can stop posting any time now.
I give you leave to stop posting in my thread, if it causes you so much discomfort.

no thanks. I always like to see how much **** people like you can spew.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#327 - 2014-03-21 20:49:38 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Yes, GTFO, Lucas. Facts have no place here - this is a tinfoil thread and you keep ruining it.


Yet here you are, following around my posting as well.
If this thread was so ludicrous, why do you waste your time posting after me?

Surely you must have better uses of your time.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#328 - 2014-03-21 20:50:25 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
admiral root wrote:
Yes, GTFO, Lucas. Facts have no place here - this is a tinfoil thread and you keep ruining it.


Yet here you are, following around my posting as well.
If this thread was so ludicrous, why do you waste your time posting after me?

Surely you must have better uses of your time.


Dinsdale tears, fofofofofofofofofofo.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#329 - 2014-03-21 20:55:09 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
admiral root wrote:
Yes, GTFO, Lucas. Facts have no place here - this is a tinfoil thread and you keep ruining it.


Yet here you are, following around my posting as well.
If this thread was so ludicrous, why do you waste your time posting after me?

Surely you must have better uses of your time.


Dinsdale tears, fofofofofofofofofofo.


Well, sorry to disappoint you, but I have a exec summary to write up now for a technical issue at work, then making dinner, then likely hitting the pub.

You will have to find something else on the internet to gain some gratification from for a while.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#330 - 2014-03-21 20:59:15 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
admiral root wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
admiral root wrote:
Yes, GTFO, Lucas. Facts have no place here - this is a tinfoil thread and you keep ruining it.


Yet here you are, following around my posting as well.
If this thread was so ludicrous, why do you waste your time posting after me?

Surely you must have better uses of your time.


Dinsdale tears, fofofofofofofofofofo.


Well, sorry to disappoint you, but I have a exec summary to write up now for a technical issue at work, then making dinner, then likely hitting the pub.

You will have to find something else on the internet to gain some gratification from for a while.

so you're feeding the dog then drinking alone. Gotcha.

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#331 - 2014-03-21 21:07:48 UTC
by increasing minerals gained from reprocessing ices and ores, they will flood the market with oversupply of the end product and therefore damage the price for ice and ore...

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Salvos Rhoska
#332 - 2014-03-21 21:08:49 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
so you're feeding the dog then drinking alone. Gotcha.


What the **** is this.

Get a life yourself before you concern yourself with that of others.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#333 - 2014-03-21 21:09:05 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
by increasing minerals gained from reprocessing ices and ores, they will flood the market with oversupply of the end product and therefore damage the price for ice and ore...


You have not read the dev blog right.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#334 - 2014-03-21 21:24:30 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
so you're feeding the dog then drinking alone. Gotcha.


What the **** is this.

Get a life yourself before you concern yourself with that of others.

lol, generally people who feel the need to tell people the super important stuff they have to do are doing nothing.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

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Salvos Rhoska
#335 - 2014-03-21 21:27:15 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
lol, generally people who feel the need to tell people the super important stuff they have to do are doing nothing.


There was nothing super important about any of it. Just mundane stuff that most people do on a day to day basis.

Whats your excuse?

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#336 - 2014-03-21 21:40:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas Kell
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
lol, generally people who feel the need to tell people the super important stuff they have to do are doing nothing.


There was nothing super important about any of it. Just mundane stuff that most people do on a day to day basis.

Whats your excuse?
ooh nasty the "i know you are so what am i". I quiver in fear awaiting your next response.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#337 - 2014-03-21 21:55:15 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
So mining is being buffed.


Again. And I like it!
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#338 - 2014-03-21 22:00:48 UTC
I like to run missions and have no problem with the new changes discussed in the dev blog.

plus, sexy new refining ui. Good work ccp.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#339 - 2014-03-21 22:02:23 UTC
Oh, and another slight boost for Tech 1 producers if no one has mentioned it in this threadnaught.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#340 - 2014-03-21 22:13:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Barton Breau wrote:
How so?
Because mineral compression exists for a reason, in and out of highsec. So far, the mechanic that has been supposed to provide that functionality has been restricted, stupidly SP-demanding, and completely overshadowed by production/recycling as a means of transporting minerals in bulk.

Removing mineral compression is not going to happen — again, it already exists and for good reason.
Removing production/recycling compression from highsec alone without replacing would be stupid since that's where compression is being used the most — again for good reason. Also, arbitrarily having it use completely different mechanics for the same functionality is just plain old bad design (both in terms of consistency and in terms of system robustness).
Taking p/r-compression away from the industrialists and giving it as a completely separate mechanic to materials logistics people means the two can now be treated, balanced, modified, and made available separately.

Salvos Rhoska wrote:
What the **** is wrong with you? You won't let me walk away and leave you to have your way?
If you want to walk away, walk away. Don't try to blame others for your unwillingness to do so.

Quote:
The "mining point of view" is ****ing months outdated. What miners had to go through then has no bearing on the current status quo. The situation is different today, and it is on todays situation that changes are to be decided. Otherwise its like saying "Look at it from the Jews perspective 50 yrs ago". Who fking cares.
You are a disgusting person.

Quote:
You contradict yourself. You speak of "speaking objectively" and then disqualify that by identifying yourself as brand new.
No, there is no contradiction between speaking objectively and taking on the perspective of someone with no stakes in the matter. From that perspective, there will be balance. He's also not identifying himself as anything.

Slade Trillgon wrote:
Oh, and another slight boost for Tech 1 producers if no one has mentioned it in this threadnaught.

Of course not. That doesn't match the supposed problem that highsec (and in particular new players) are being screwed… somehow…