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Simple Solution to stabbed farming!

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Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#1 - 2014-03-21 19:09:08 UTC
Allow dictors to bubble up in deadspace.


RANT ON!
Iudicium Vastus
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-03-21 20:15:56 UTC
Nah, just see my forum sig here.
Also, I might add that just bring a hictor (though that only works on medium+) but still, that infi-point works on them farmers.

[u]Nerf stabs/cloaks in FW?[/u] No, just.. -Fit more points -Fit faction points -Bring a friend or two with points (an alt is fine too)

Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#3 - 2014-03-21 20:50:45 UTC
Syrias Bizniz wrote:
Allow dictors to bubble up in deadspace.


RANT ON!


Or they could just implement the same feature the ESS enjoys:

Activating the ESS causes the ESS to infinity point you as long as you arre within activation range.

Make it so you have to activate the "button". Doing so causes the button to target you and infinity point you. You can no longer cloak to get safe, and you can no longer warp to get safe without first leaving the button's sphere of influence.
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#4 - 2014-03-21 20:55:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Starbuck05
Or just alpha them before they warp off.. most peeps are afk when you show up, the ones that are not imediatly cloack up when they see somethin on d-scan .



Also , timer rollbacks

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !

Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#5 - 2014-03-21 23:05:52 UTC
Starbuck05 wrote:

Also , timer rollbacks

thanks!

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#6 - 2014-03-21 23:51:51 UTC
Fit multiple scrams. Two usually works.

Since they are new toons, they don't have the speed usually to get away, so you can swap a web for a scram.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#7 - 2014-03-22 01:22:12 UTC
i do not have any problems to catch stabbed and cloaked farmers, catch % is pretty high if they stay to play and do not warp of and leave system when they see something on scan.
Silverbackyererse
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-03-22 01:50:19 UTC
Your average farmer would just vanish faster than a member of Gallmil faced with a bar of soap if it gets a sniff of a dictor.

Would make for a far more interesting low-sec though.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-03-22 05:06:02 UTC
Actually the bubble thing is a good idea. Allow dictor bubbles in low but change all bubble mechanics so that you cannot bubble 0 of a gate. Same as smart bombs.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
Ushra'Khan
#10 - 2014-03-22 06:53:00 UTC
Allow bubbles, let the plex inifipoint, shut down cloaks, deactivate stabs, instant timer rollbacks, more and powerful rats and militia wide info channels announcing who is running which plex in what ship.

That's the least CCP can do!!11

pew pew

Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#11 - 2014-03-22 08:52:57 UTC
I don't like the idea of a bubble or inifinity point in lowsec plexes. I fought a Firetail today who tried to scram kite me but couldn't take the damage. Because he was faster he could warp away when he pulled 10km range. Perfectly valid but he would have died to my rails if we were bubbled and he had to make it to the edge first.

Just do timer rollbacks.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.

Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#12 - 2014-03-25 12:46:38 UTC
The solution is both easy and has been pushed and rejected in the past. Make rats scram more often.

HS - the occaisional scram (who really cares anyway)
LS - frequent scrams by npc
NULL - every anom should have multiple npc w/ scrams and belts should have a decent number of scramming rats

WH - add some scrammers in the c1 and c2 sites and up the number of scrammers in c3 sites. c4 and up - you're already pretty much committed as each wave contains multiple scramming ships.

BOTs will be easy prey with scramming rats. Actual players can take steps to minimize losses.


If you want to farm npc, you should have to actually commit to the sight when you warp to it. WH space is thriving w/ multiple scramming npc in sites, so I really don't want to hear how it would end all life in LS. People are in LS for a reason - an NPC scramming them in a belt isn't going to change that.
RcTamiya Leontis
Magister Mortalis.
#13 - 2014-03-25 12:56:30 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
The solution is both easy and has been pushed and rejected in the past. Make rats scram more often.


WH - add some scrammers in the c1 and c2 sites and up the number of scrammers in c3 sites. c4 and up - you're already pretty much committed as each wave contains multiple scramming ships.




Before that make them at least viable first lol c3 sites, solar cell for example, got rats with points, however as long as the majority of the community is not running c2 sites a simplea ddition of warp disrupting npc wouldn't change that ....
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#14 - 2014-03-25 13:18:03 UTC
I hear you. Was just including all parts of space in the interest of being fair and balanced. As in LS, I feel adding a few scramming NPC will not clear out c2 space.

I think C2 are viable for a segment of the eve population. If you're going to wh space to get space rich - c5/c6 is where it's at for escallations and c4 is where it's at for sub-cap grinding. I see C1/C2 as stepping stones along a path. I don't see them as an end game home where long term viability is necessary. Kind of like L2 missions are great for a week 3 player but not viable for a 2006 character. L2 and C2 are something to work through on your eve journey, and were never intended as a final way station.

If you are going to WH space to pvp - a lot of folks think C2 are the 'sweet spot' for pvp (those not interested in a 30 on 30 T3 bore-fest). Those interested in the big T3 stuff work their way to c5/c6.

I really like this solution to botting. It just never seems to catch the eye of CCP. (I'm not a big conspiracy guy, but a lot of corp tax isk is brought in from npc sites. It's not moon goo isk, but it is passive isk.)
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#15 - 2014-03-25 16:28:10 UTC
I've always wondered why the Heavy Dictor get a infi-point, but the regular dictor doesn't. CCP should just create a smaller warp field generator module that doesn't give a bubble, but does provide the infi-point and can only be fitted to dictors and inties.
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#16 - 2014-03-25 16:35:15 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
I've always wondered why the Heavy Dictor get a infi-point, but the regular dictor doesn't. CCP should just create a smaller warp field generator module that doesn't give a bubble, but does provide the infi-point and can only be fitted to dictors and inties.



Only to Dictors. But yeah, that'd be sweet.
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#17 - 2014-03-25 16:50:48 UTC
Stop trying to PvP farmers...
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#18 - 2014-03-25 19:17:05 UTC
Negative Ghostrider the pattern is full.

nom nom

Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2014-03-26 05:17:53 UTC
The Infinite Point Phobos Says NO!!!

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#20 - 2014-03-26 14:03:32 UTC
Syrias Bizniz wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
I've always wondered why the Heavy Dictor get a infi-point, but the regular dictor doesn't. CCP should just create a smaller warp field generator module that doesn't give a bubble, but does provide the infi-point and can only be fitted to dictors and inties.



Only to Dictors. But yeah, that'd be sweet.


Ok, Dictors only, but the CPU & PG would have to be set so that you would have to choose between either the interdiction sphere launcher, or the infinite point.

This would still make farmers in the novice plexes hard to catch, but make it more riskier for farmers to farm in small, medium, and large plexes. Considering the reward they get with minimal risk, I'd say that would make the farming practice more balanced.
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