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New Incursion Game Mechanics Explained
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Wut Maschine
Apple Inc.
#1 - 2011-11-30 03:01:38 UTC
Today, after close to 2 weeks of having a friends corp wardec'd by a 2 man corp that has never logged in except to renew the wardec, they received a reply back from their petition asking to have the war invalidated because it's clearly a greifing tactic. These said players fly incursions as were harassed by a set of players then wardec'd.

CCP's response, which is now documented in the form of petition states that this, after review with senior GM's is not a violation and is acceptable.

So, effective sometime Friday in a random timezone, I will be wardec'ing random people I see running Incursions. I will be hostile using Blackbirds to jam logistics with the intent to disrupt people playing. I will also be doing this because I'm a PVP'er and just want the kills as well.

If you make a living in this game from Incursions, please find a secondary line of work.

I strongly suggest that you petition CCP for every death and say that this game mechanic is either a) lovely, or b) considered greifing. Now I'm not going to be griefing here because I intent to kill everything I see. I'm not wardec 'ing for the purposed of never logging in but rather to hurt those that fly incursions.

Alternatively, you can always just fly with people who are wardec'ed and take your chances.

I expect to die, but expect to see yourselves in lots of incursion pain...

Let the pain begin. It's wartime!!!

BTW, CCP, if you want a copy of the petition and would like to rethink the strategy, let me know. It should be also noted that my intent is to use this wardec to destroy targets on the field, which I think is pretty much what the wardec mechanics are for. Can you please clarify this?
Taiwanistan
#2 - 2011-11-30 03:39:17 UTC
YOU SO GANGSTA

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
Ghoest
#3 - 2011-11-30 03:42:14 UTC
Ummm if you dont like war decs join an NPC corp.

Or just keep washing the war dec off by joing one of the cleaner alliances.

Wherever You Went - Here You Are
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
#4 - 2011-11-30 03:51:54 UTC
Taiwanistan wrote:
YOU SO GANGSTA

And listening to rap!

Nyan
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#5 - 2011-11-30 03:54:35 UTC
So your response to a logofski wardec is to...wardec others and actually kill them? Naga, you'd better be trollin'.

And if your 'friends' are too dumb to add the members of this AFK corp to watchlist, then they're too dumb to stay alive anyway.
Wut Maschine
Apple Inc.
#6 - 2011-11-30 04:08:53 UTC
KrakizBad wrote:
So your response to a logofski wardec is to...wardec others and actually kill them? Naga, you'd better be trollin'.

And if your 'friends' are too dumb to add the members of this AFK corp to watchlist, then they're too dumb to stay alive anyway.


It's not a watchlist thing. It's a no one wants them in the incursion fleets because they're wardeced thing. We've watched for a time to hope to PVP'em but they never log in. Thus the petition was about working the game mechanics.

If you wardec and never log in it should be invalidated.
Potamus Jenkins
eXceed Inc.
Plucky Adventurers
#7 - 2011-11-30 04:11:07 UTC
at first i was like


Shocked



then i was like


Lol



this was a simple yet effective troll. i think my guard was down a bit because this isnt ceeandpee
Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2011-11-30 04:16:38 UTC
Wardecs are pretty much meant to be used to kill people. If they're only a two man corp, you can just kill them easier.

 Though All Men Do Despise Us
Zain Andreas
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2011-11-30 04:20:00 UTC
You sound dumb and bad at eve.
Lola Humpsalot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-11-30 04:32:14 UTC
u mad rite?
Wut Maschine
Apple Inc.
#11 - 2011-11-30 04:34:05 UTC
Zain Andreas wrote:
You sound dumb and bad at eve.


LOL, When the carebears want to make money they run incursions. When they run into stupid people in incursions that want to grief them out, they call up friends. Me and you have friends in common...
Wut Maschine
Apple Inc.
#12 - 2011-11-30 04:34:57 UTC
Lola Humpsalot wrote:
u mad rite?


I'm not mad, I'm Angry! -- Wut Maschine... Twisted
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2011-11-30 04:38:23 UTC
Wut Maschine wrote:
Today, after close to 2 weeks of having a friends corp wardec'd by a 2 man corp that has never logged in except to renew the wardec, they received a reply back from their petition asking to have the war invalidated because it's clearly a greifing tactic. These said players fly incursions as were harassed by a set of players then wardec'd.

CCP's response, which is now documented in the form of petition states that this, after review with senior GM's is not a violation and is acceptable.

So, effective sometime Friday in a random timezone, I will be wardec'ing random people I see running Incursions. I will be hostile using Blackbirds to jam logistics with the intent to disrupt people playing. I will also be doing this because I'm a PVP'er and just want the kills as well.

If you make a living in this game from Incursions, please find a secondary line of work.

I strongly suggest that you petition CCP for every death and say that this game mechanic is either a) lovely, or b) considered greifing. Now I'm not going to be griefing here because I intent to kill everything I see. I'm not wardec 'ing for the purposed of never logging in but rather to hurt those that fly incursions.

Alternatively, you can always just fly with people who are wardec'ed and take your chances.

I expect to die, but expect to see yourselves in lots of incursion pain...

Let the pain begin. It's wartime!!!

BTW, CCP, if you want a copy of the petition and would like to rethink the strategy, let me know. It should be also noted that my intent is to use this wardec to destroy targets on the field, which I think is pretty much what the wardec mechanics are for. Can you please clarify this?



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Lola Humpsalot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-11-30 04:39:30 UTC
Wut Maschine wrote:
Lola Humpsalot wrote:
u mad rite?


I'm not mad, I'm Angry! -- Wut Maschine... Twisted


no, i rly think u mad -- Lola...
Wut Maschine
Apple Inc.
#15 - 2011-11-30 04:41:40 UTC
Lola Humpsalot wrote:
Wut Maschine wrote:
Lola Humpsalot wrote:
u mad rite?


I'm not mad, I'm Angry! -- Wut Maschine... Twisted


no, i rly think u mad -- Lola...


Nope, still Angry... Some people reading this will figure it out.
Wut Maschine
Apple Inc.
#16 - 2011-11-30 04:57:09 UTC
My first but in this patch

Corporate Vote - Declare War Against {Name}
From: Wut Maschine
Sent: 2011.11.30 04:54

battlebot1077 won the wardec challenge


Looks like the dev's forgot to do a replace on {Name} with the corp name.
ASadOldGit
Doomheim
#17 - 2011-11-30 04:59:11 UTC
Wut Maschine wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
So your response to a logofski wardec is to...wardec others and actually kill them? Naga, you'd better be trollin'.

And if your 'friends' are too dumb to add the members of this AFK corp to watchlist, then they're too dumb to stay alive anyway.


It's not a watchlist thing. It's a no one wants them in the incursion fleets because they're wardeced thing. We've watched for a time to hope to PVP'em but they never log in. Thus the petition was about working the game mechanics.

If you wardec and never log in it should be invalidated.


Ok, this is going to indicate how noob I am, but, how do the others in the incursion fleet know that someone's been wardecced? I don't remember there being an indicator on the character sheet or anything...

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Roosterton
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2011-11-30 05:05:47 UTC
One problem - a corp can only have three outgoing decs at once. Unless you're in an alliance, which you don't seem to be based on the forum information underneath your picture, you'll be unable to do much of any significance.
Wut Maschine
Apple Inc.
#19 - 2011-11-30 05:09:33 UTC
Roosterton wrote:
One problem - a corp can only have three outgoing decs at once. Unless you're in an alliance, which you don't seem to be based on the forum information underneath your picture, you'll be unable to do much of any significance.


Wow, not really creative there. This is one of three toon on one account and there are a few of us that will be doing this (plus I also have multiple accounts. It's all about the pain man. The pain.

We will inflict pain so other don't have to.
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#20 - 2011-11-30 05:15:16 UTC
i will enjoy seeing your lossmails in battleclinic.


oh, and then whichever numbnuts didn't disclose that he was at war when he joined the fleet will be banned from the major incursion channels.


oh, and many people will just corp hop.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
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