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Any groups occupying a whole WH constellation?
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved
#1 - 2014-03-21 18:07:43 UTC
Just a random curious thought.

Are there any larger groups that are, or tried, occupying a whole WH constellation?

Would there be any benefits to such occupancy? One i can think of is sites despawning and respawning within the same constellation.

Would there be an increased chance of getting wandering WH into other systems within the same constellation. I've heard the "wandering" WHs being referred to as "constellation statics", not exactly sure why.
Batuka
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-03-21 19:00:10 UTC
from my understanding if they controlled a full escalation wirth statics that lead in a circle to eachother they could jsut cycle and perma stay safe in their whs runnign tons of sites daily forcing isk and when they do a site they stack another in their system aswell seams to me if the group is large enough it could be worth it with newer players living in the c3s and the more experience the higher level wh u move into

P.s i may be wrong
a DAMN PATRIOT
Dropbears Anonymous
Brave Collective
#3 - 2014-03-21 19:21:18 UTC
Batuka wrote:
from my understanding


xD
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#4 - 2014-03-21 19:51:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Rroff
-A- apparently had that goal in mind - didn't get a very warm reception trying to burn multiple people's home wormholes to move into them.

The first C5 I lived in for awhile another group had a presence in 4 out of the other 5 systems in E-C00266 possibly with the intention of controlling site spawns but no actual idea what or why or if they had any joy with it.
hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved
#5 - 2014-03-21 20:14:57 UTC
OK, i am getting pretty confused with "wandering" and "constellation" statics.

I some places i see people using these interchangeably

On the wiki, they are defined separately, however it also mentions that it is "not properly documented"
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Project_Atlas#Constellation_Wormholes

Has there been more proof if these in-fact exist or not?

Finally, from the wiki, it seems like a constellation static would link into any WH of that class, not just within that constellation, right? The only "constellation" part being that it is guaranteed to respawn within the constellation.

So, other than ensuring that sites get completed and despawned, there is no positional benefit to occupying the same constellation: your friends in the other system have no more or lesser chance of linking to you then from any other random system, right?
hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved
#6 - 2014-03-21 20:18:14 UTC
Batuka wrote:
with newer players living in the c3s and the more experience the higher level wh u move into


My understanding is that constellations are of the same class, no?
forsot
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#7 - 2014-03-21 20:24:02 UTC
If I remember correctly the constellation theory was disproved by someone a couple years ago. Someone Bought/found all the systems in a constellation. I forget the exact details but it’s on a much larger scale whether it be region/class/ or some cases the whole of W-space.
Justin Cody
War Firm
#8 - 2014-03-21 20:47:44 UTC
The only advantage to controlling an entire constellation is being able to force sites to spawn in other systems inside that constellation. Of course they will all pile up in the one system you aren't in (as a colleague is finding out since he doesn't have a character in one particular black hole system).

But of course the entire idea that site spawns are constellation based might also be mistaken...but that is the only advantage that I am aware of.
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#9 - 2014-03-21 21:05:13 UTC
No idea if there is any documentation or confirmation as to site spawns, I heard awhile back that anoms and combats bounce region wide and ladar and grav (gas and mining) constellation wide but no idea if there is any truth to it.
Winthorp
#10 - 2014-03-21 23:16:13 UTC
I know some groups do leave alts in constellation holes when they are found to start timers on sites, but to live in them the answer is no.
The Cue
Violence is the Answer
#11 - 2014-03-22 04:17:14 UTC
hydraSlav wrote:
OK, i am getting pretty confused with "wandering" and "constellation" statics.

I some places i see people using these interchangeably

On the wiki, they are defined separately, however it also mentions that it is "not properly documented"
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Project_Atlas#Constellation_Wormholes

Has there been more proof if these in-fact exist or not?

Finally, from the wiki, it seems like a constellation static would link into any WH of that class, not just within that constellation, right? The only "constellation" part being that it is guaranteed to respawn within the constellation.

So, other than ensuring that sites get completed and despawned, there is no positional benefit to occupying the same constellation: your friends in the other system have no more or lesser chance of linking to you then from any other random system, right?




My understanding(which matches with my, and my corp's experience for whatever that's worth), is that a dynamic or wandering WH encompasses the wormholes that lead places a static couldn't, so for example a C140 in a C5. A constellation static is a static that matches a possible static of that class, so for example an H296 in a C5 that has a M267 for a static.