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Best Ship for Transporting BPO thru High
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Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-03-21 08:13:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Adrie Atticus
RavenPaine wrote:
The Leapord (special frigate) is one of the fastest warping ships ever designed. If you do get scanned (very unlikely) you will outrun any ships that would try and follow. The trouble is, 1 lucky Catalyst could pop you.


Is this why I was following a Leopard 5 jumps towards Jita just yesterday in my special Jaguar?

I hope that someone had their butthole tightening at least from the constant targeting attempts.
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#22 - 2014-03-21 08:20:19 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

The most risk free method is....

Red Frog.

Setup a contract to your destination. Set the collateral above the cost of your BPO, and let someone else take all the risks for only a few million isk.


Second Best option is a covert ship. Covert t3's are nice because they have solid tanks. Covert Ops are nice because they align fast and warp fast.

Good luck with your move.


This tbh. use blue/red/black frog.

However http://greedygoblin.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/business-post-ascendancy.html have a look at this guy. He regularly hauls very high value cargos in a tengu and blogs about it. You might find some useful infomation there.

Will gank for food
Ginger Barbarella
#23 - 2014-03-21 16:09:38 UTC
God's Apples wrote:
Is nobody aware that covops haulers can't be cargo scanned? Warping cloaked really isn't difficult and using docking and instaundock bookmarks really isn't that hard.


They also tend to attract attention specifically for that reason. There are some out there that pop them just on general principles.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-03-21 16:55:59 UTC
Yeah, some people might roll the dice on blapping a blockade runner to see what it's carrying. It's possible, though, to tank a Prowler to almost 20,000 EHP omni-tank, cranking up to 40K EHP with invuls and DC active:
===
[Prowler, Anti-Instapop]
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
===
Even a maximum-alpha Tornado doesn't have the beef to reliably blap that in one shot, and if you're flying smart, one shot's all that a Tornado will get.

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-03-21 18:16:22 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

The most risk free method is....

Red Frog.

Setup a contract to your destination. Set the collateral above the cost of your BPO, and let someone else take all the risks for only a few million isk.
Red Frog only takes collaterals up to 1 billion ISK - and at that value, you can still carry it around relatively safely in a max-tank Gnosis or Orca.

It's for more valuable blueprints that options become difficult.
Up to 5 billions, Blue Frog and PushX will still carry it, but for much higher prices (at least 5 times higher).
If it's worth even more, you need to find someone special who's willing to take that risk.
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#26 - 2014-03-21 19:23:03 UTC
Black Ops

Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.

I invented Tiericide
WaterMarks
The Keywork
#27 - 2014-03-21 21:07:54 UTC
Atron...

-Fly Reckless-
Syri Taneka
NOVA-CAINE
#28 - 2014-03-22 05:55:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Syri Taneka
Dr Cedric wrote:
If I remember right, you cant scan a can, so put your BPOs in there, fit for a mission and slow-boat it. If it were me, I'd fit a T1 BS or BC, go heavy on the tank and "noobish" on the weapons.


Unfortunately, you remember wrong. Game was changed some years ago to enable scanning contents of cans, and the "Plastic Wrap" of courier contracts.

What I'm not sure about is whether or not it was ever made possible to scan through two layers of plastic wrap (a courier contract of a courier contract).

Oh, and OT: Interceptor or Leopard shuttle.

And never fly through Rancer.
Iudicium Vastus
Doomheim
#29 - 2014-03-22 06:38:01 UTC
Gotta love how in a sci-fi universe, Blueprints can't be saved as data and transmitted as a file anywhere using the TFL communication technologies. No, we gotta haul around literal blueprints in what I would guess be rolled in a poster tube and thrown in the cargo.

[u]Nerf stabs/cloaks in FW?[/u] No, just.. -Fit more points -Fit faction points -Bring a friend or two with points (an alt is fine too)
Bear Naskingar
Coelacanth Operations
Phantom-Recon
#30 - 2014-03-22 19:00:54 UTC
Dr Cedric wrote:
RavenPaine wrote:
The Leapord (special frigate) is one of the fastest warping ships ever designed. If you do get scanned (very unlikely) you will outrun any ships that would try and follow. The trouble is, 1 lucky Catalyst could pop you.

Another choice would be a brick tanked Navy BS. You could easily be scanned, but it would take a crew of Tornado pilots to bring you down.

Covert Ops ships also work. Cloak and warp from every gate. It's hard to even see which way you warped.


The best idea (in my opinion) is to be "just another mission runner" that isnt worth the gank. If I remember right, you cant scan a can, so put your BPOs in there, fit for a mission and slow-boat it. If it were me, I'd fit a T1 BS or BC, go heavy on the tank and "noobish" on the weapons.

Dont mind me, just another mission runner with nothing for you!

Also, dont do it with this character, just in case :)


Putting BPOs in a can sounds like a good idea until you realize that having a can in your hold just creates curiosity on the part of would-be gankers.
Damien White
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-03-22 20:10:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Damien White
Bear Naskingar wrote:
Dr Cedric wrote:
RavenPaine wrote:
The Leapord (special frigate) is one of the fastest warping ships ever designed. If you do get scanned (very unlikely) you will outrun any ships that would try and follow. The trouble is, 1 lucky Catalyst could pop you.

Another choice would be a brick tanked Navy BS. You could easily be scanned, but it would take a crew of Tornado pilots to bring you down.

Covert Ops ships also work. Cloak and warp from every gate. It's hard to even see which way you warped.


The best idea (in my opinion) is to be "just another mission runner" that isnt worth the gank. If I remember right, you cant scan a can, so put your BPOs in there, fit for a mission and slow-boat it. If it were me, I'd fit a T1 BS or BC, go heavy on the tank and "noobish" on the weapons.

Dont mind me, just another mission runner with nothing for you!

Also, dont do it with this character, just in case :)


Putting BPOs in a can sounds like a good idea until you realize that having a can in your hold just creates curiosity on the part of would-be gankers.


No, most missionrunners use small cans for extra ammunition, cap booster charges, gate keys etc. I can gurante you, no one will ever bother giving a second thougt to this fitting, even if you have a can in there. Hell, I think most gankers wont even bother with scaning a dominix.

Quote:
[Dominix, Empire BPO Transport]
Drone Damage Amplifier I
Drone Damage Amplifier I
Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link I, Optimal Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I, Optimal Range Script
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Dual 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
Dual 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
Dual 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
Dual 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
Dual 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
Dual 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I





This is basicaly the essence of a newbfitting with bad skills, no real knowledge and a "better safe than sorry" attitude, you cant look more uninteresting in EVE right now.


EDIT: But dont forget to put some ammunition in there as well as maybe some crappy meta 0-2 items so you look like you just come from a mission.

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Princess Bride
SharkNado
#32 - 2014-03-22 20:30:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Princess Bride
Bear Naskingar wrote:
Dr Cedric wrote:
RavenPaine wrote:
The Leapord (special frigate) is one of the fastest warping ships ever designed. If you do get scanned (very unlikely) you will outrun any ships that would try and follow. The trouble is, 1 lucky Catalyst could pop you.

Another choice would be a brick tanked Navy BS. You could easily be scanned, but it would take a crew of Tornado pilots to bring you down.

Covert Ops ships also work. Cloak and warp from every gate. It's hard to even see which way you warped.


The best idea (in my opinion) is to be "just another mission runner" that isnt worth the gank. If I remember right, you cant scan a can, so put your BPOs in there, fit for a mission and slow-boat it. If it were me, I'd fit a T1 BS or BC, go heavy on the tank and "noobish" on the weapons.

Dont mind me, just another mission runner with nothing for you!

Also, dont do it with this character, just in case :)


Putting BPOs in a can sounds like a good idea until you realize that having a can in your hold just creates curiosity on the part of would-be gankers.


Is that what he needs to realize? And here I thought he needed to realize that anyone can see the contents of containers inside a ship's hold with a cargo scanner.

Sometimes I forget just how bad the advice on forums can be.

Use a cov ops ship: Frigate or nano'd transport. Or use a cov ops T3, and no, it doesn't have to be nullified as that only works against bubbles in null. If you get locked in a cov ops in high sec you were being lazy with your cloak or warp. Don't give anyone any intel about your move. Don't get lazy or stupid and you'll be fine. Anyone who tells you different or spews nonsense about unspecified hazards is speaking above their knowledge level.

Edit: Or yeah, pay Red Frog a pittance assuming the BPO is worth less than a billion. Just a shame to do so because of lack of knowledge. Only use Red Frog for this if you're lazy.

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Damien White
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-03-22 20:35:41 UTC
They still can?

Wasnt that changed back some time ago?


If not, nevermind.

97% of girls would die if Justin Bieber were about to jump off a cliff. Post this in your sig if you`re part of the 3% yelling,

"DO A BARREL ROLL!"
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2014-03-22 20:41:27 UTC
Yes, still can, no not changed. (Orca hanger was made scanable recently, BR cargo hold was made unscanable recently)

What can't be scanned through is double-wrap. Courier contract in courier contract, courier contract in container (I think) or container in courier contract (I think)

But that definitely attracts gankers' attention as that's something that you pretty much have to deliberately do.
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#35 - 2014-03-23 01:46:40 UTC
Volar Kang wrote:
In my mind, using an interceptor would be the best, one fitted with maneuver/speed mods. You would warp before anyone could lock you and following you in anything else but an interceptor would be pointless. I dont have any experience in this area so any help would be appreciated. I am assuming tanked ships like a BS would be too slow and if someone scanned your cargo they could follow you and get some friends together to gank you.


If the BPOs are visibly worth 1.0 billion ISK or less, just haul them while AFK in a Freighter. I've done so several times; never had any problems.

If they're worth more than that, then yes you should indeed haul them ass-on-chair in an Interceptor. I've done so several times, increasingly just hauling all my crap at once instead of splitting up the BPOs and taking multiple trips; never had any problems.
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#36 - 2014-03-23 01:48:37 UTC
Notorious Fellon wrote:
I use blockade runners for said task.


That's exactly why I haven't undocked any of my BRs (I think I own 2 maybe) since that change. I'm concerned that other players will assume that I'm a totally juicy and super-gankworthy target, since obviously I must have something to hide.
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#37 - 2014-03-23 01:50:15 UTC
Thomas Builder wrote:
If the blueprint isn't too valuable, a Gnosis works surprisingly well too.
You can get almost 200k EHP against Antimatter out of it and still have a decent align time.

But if the BPO is worth more than a billion, people might gank you anyway, so something stealthy will be better.

You can also double-wrap the BPO to be unscannable. (Ask a freighter pilot for how to do that). Although a double-wrapped package in a shuttle will definitely be suspicious, so maybe double-wrap it, use a freighter and pretend to be just a run-of-the-mill Red Frog alt doing a regular freight run, not worth to be ganked.


I don't know how double-wrapping works, but if scanners can see the volume of the wrapped package, then be sure to include some random crap along with the BPOs, such as a few dozen units of trit, or maybe add enough to get the volume to 5 or 10 m3, because if volume is 0.01 or 0.02 m3 then it'll look dangerously like 1 or 2 high-value BPOs.
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#38 - 2014-03-23 01:52:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Gregor Parud
Why is this thread 2 pages long? Use a Blockade Runner and cloak at every gate, fit it with Istabs and shield extenders (and those are more of a "might as well" kind of thing). Yes, you might be uncloaked sometimes, oh the humanity, but because it almost never happens it's not an issue.
MonkeyMagic Thiesant
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2014-03-23 02:12:59 UTC
Astero. Even if you get unlucky and can't cloak because some npc is within 2km, it's got the quickest align in the game.
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#40 - 2014-03-23 06:54:06 UTC
The leopard hands down. Due to the way the server ticks work it is literally unlockable unless you're sitting on a gate and/or slowboating around (or are undocking, long story short be sure to use undock bookmarks when transporting high collateral). If you don't have access to a leopard then an interceptor with >1.9 second align time. If not an inty then something cloaky. If you don't have access to any of these then your options are to pick a decently tanked non-blink pvp ship to mask your intentions, or fit a ship that has enough tank to require more ships (ISK wise) to gank then would be gained selling your BPO, just beware that despite what others may say putting them in a can wont help being scanned.

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