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Best WH to solo w/ dual domis?
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Guer
Komm susser Tod
#1 - 2014-03-20 22:05:19 UTC
I've been wondering this awhile. I have two high sp accounts (plus another that can scout/scan). One can fly about any subcap with near max skills, and one tengu focused pilot that can also fly a domi with good skills. Lets say PI and reactions are a low priority. Is the best content for me C3 sites, which can be run either solo or with two ships? is there c4 stuff thats comfortable to do with two ships?

Should I go for a c2 with a HS and C3 static?
I also like lowsec statics because of chances to do exploration or pvp, plus lowsec static is sufficiently easy/convenient access to empire if I'm not moving heavy industry-related stuff. But i hear c2 content is kinda dull or unrewarding, so I'm not so sure about a c2 with c2/LS static. Other option would be C3 w/ a single lowsec static, then I could do lowsec stuff if my c3 is empty, but I'm not so sure about how well that would work.

I know a fair amount about wormholes, and scanned my way through many of them, but i've never lived in one or done anything beyond a bit of pvp or the occasional daytrip (which i think would work better as week-trips).
Glyndi
Doom Generation
Best Intentions.
#2 - 2014-03-20 22:17:14 UTC
C2-C3/LS is a really good choice for the reasons you list, imo.
crazy0146
The Federation of assorted candy
#3 - 2014-03-20 22:17:48 UTC
With 2 rr domis you should be able to do C1-4 sites.

If you add in a max skilled booster and redo the domi fits a bit you can also do some c5 sites (or solo them in a marauder).

If you want anytime access to a lowsec then go with a C3>Low, otherwise a C4>C3 or C4>C2(not sure you get these).
Glyndi
Doom Generation
Best Intentions.
#4 - 2014-03-20 22:21:34 UTC
crazy0146 wrote:
With 2 rr domis you should be able to do C1-4 sites.

If you add in a max skilled booster and redo the domi fits a bit you can also do some c5 sites (or solo them in a marauder).

If you want anytime access to a lowsec then go with a C3>Low, otherwise a C4>C3 or C4>C2(not sure you get these).


The ONLY issue I have with C4s is the range at which everything orbits...I hated chasing down the sleepers back in the day. Though a sentry Domi may not have much of an issue, I can't say for sure though because I don't have the experience.
Guer
Komm susser Tod
#5 - 2014-03-20 22:30:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Guer
Glyndi wrote:
C2-C3/LS is a really good choice for the reasons you list, imo.


From what i can tell my choices are C2-C2/LS or C2-C3/HS. C2-C3/LS doesn't appear to exist.

Booster alt isn't happening, although if i could do c4's that could be good. C4 with C3 static could be a possibility.
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#6 - 2014-03-20 22:34:06 UTC
Glyndi wrote:
C2-C3/LS is a really good choice for the reasons you list, imo.


THat type of hole doesnt exist:).

Yeh C2/c3 is gonna be what you want. GOod luck finding an empty one though.
Guer
Komm susser Tod
#7 - 2014-03-20 22:35:04 UTC
Icarus Able wrote:
Glyndi wrote:
C2-C3/LS is a really good choice for the reasons you list, imo.


THat type of hole doesnt exist:).

Yeh C2/c3 is gonna be what you want. GOod luck finding an empty one though.


Maybe I'll find an occupied one and join their alliance with my corp, lol.
Mixery82
Friends Of Harassment
#8 - 2014-03-20 23:19:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Mixery82
I use this Fitting from time to time in C3s and it works just fine for dualboxing.

[Dominix, RR Duo]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier

Large Remote Capacitor Transmitter II
Large Remote Capacitor Transmitter II
Large Remote Armor Repairer II
Large Remote Armor Repairer II
Large Remote Armor Repairer II
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Egress Port Maximizer I
Large Remote Repair Augmentor I
Large Remote Repair Augmentor I

Garde II x5
Bouncer II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
Garde II x3
Mobile Depot x1
Mobile Tractor Unit x1


My average time for Outpost Frontier Stronghold is about 7:20 min.
I think the performance is not bad for an T1 BS setupCool
Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
#9 - 2014-03-20 23:22:49 UTC
I am not sure if C4 sites are doable "comfortably" with only two domies. You need 1500 tank and 100km range (or insene mjd skills which i dont have).
Adoris Nolen
Sama Guild
#10 - 2014-03-21 04:06:49 UTC
You can do 2 domi's for c4 space but it requires pimp or very good micromanagement. Sleeper information sanctum & frontier barracks 2nd waves will be very challenging. You'd need to kill one bs fast to reduce the dps. I'd train the scout acct to atleast be able to fly a rep cruiser then t2 logi. With a 2 domi & 1 logi; you can easily clear 300m an hour.
Adoris Nolen
Sama Guild
#11 - 2014-03-21 04:10:47 UTC
Oh, worst thing about c3 sites atleast with domis are the cruisers & frigs. Sentry domis shine vs bs sleepers & cruisers that love to orbit at 60k.
Karen Galeo
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-03-21 06:00:22 UTC
Ehyea, if it were one of our guys I'd tell him to go into a C3. A C4/C3 or a C2/C3/HS if you want to maximize your ability to farm, a C3/LS if you want to have the most safety.

Living in the C3 means you will be able to get back to your POS easier and shut the hole down for sites, having it as your static means you can cycle it if you get a C3 without enough sites.

Author of the Karen 162 blog.
Nathan Rees
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-03-21 11:37:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Nathan Rees
IMHO if you are that skilled, you should bring your Corp into one of the c5 or c6 alliances that would love to have some extra pilots around. There are several small ones, ours included, that are always looking for wormhole experienced players with lower class wormhole knowledge that are ready to make the leap up to the higher end content. Why sell yourself short?
Jackal Willow
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2014-03-21 14:32:59 UTC
I personally run a solo Loki in my C3 sites with ease. We live in a C3/LS so the logistics are too easy when it comes to getting stuff from K-Space. Although at times it can be hard to find sites to run "every" day without another WH static. But I do a lot of PI to compensate my time and ISK income. PI will be essential if you want to go into a WH that doesn't have a K-Space static in regards to POS fuel, there isn't anything better than only having to haul in ice products when providing fuel to your tower.

If you are a 2-man single player corp I would def. suggest trying a C3 before moving up to the high class WHs just to get your feet wet (got to get used to the life a little).

Or you could just join an Alliance set up in a C5, set up your own POS, and see how it goes. If you have the starting ISK capital there is nothing better for learning then just diving right into it.
Guer
Komm susser Tod
#15 - 2014-03-21 14:44:18 UTC
Jackal Willow wrote:
I personally run a solo Loki in my C3 sites with ease. We live in a C3/LS so the logistics are too easy when it comes to getting stuff from K-Space. Although at times it can be hard to find sites to run "every" day without another WH static. But I do a lot of PI to compensate my time and ISK income. PI will be essential if you want to go into a WH that doesn't have a K-Space static in regards to POS fuel, there isn't anything better than only having to haul in ice products when providing fuel to your tower.

If you are a 2-man single player corp I would def. suggest trying a C3 before moving up to the high class WHs just to get your feet wet (got to get used to the life a little).


That sounds pretty good the more I think about it. Easy logistics, I've got PI skills, it really would be just for me, so getting a static to be able to constantly farm isn't a huge deal, plus I could always roll my lowsec static.
Adoris Nolen
Sama Guild
#16 - 2014-03-21 15:25:07 UTC
& i thought i was crazy living in c4 space. Personally, I find PI maddening on the best day.
Keizer Kip
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-03-21 16:01:13 UTC
Send me an ingame mail if you are interested. I have available for you:

* A class 2 wh with static highsec and static c4 connection
* A guide how to run c4 battlesites with your two toons
* The required fittings to do the job

* planets for PI are near perfect and available if interested

Plus some other interesting stuff and deals.

Cheers, Kip
Justin Cody
War Firm
#18 - 2014-03-21 20:49:16 UTC
mail me in-game if you want bookmarks to our system. Got some sites for you to run. Totally safe I promise.
pyropwnsu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-03-26 21:00:31 UTC
You dont have to live in a c2 to have access to c3 sites...

c4-c3 is a good idea, and they arent nearly as heavily occupied as c2-c3/hs ( which c2-c3/ls does not exist)

Dont have to worry about caps rolling in, and wont get bothered constantly with your ease of access to highsec.

The c3's will always go to k-space, so you can always roll for a highsec when you want.

Source: i did this for about 6 months before moving up to c4-c4 when we were all marauder 5
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2014-03-27 01:44:52 UTC
I live in a C2. The only thing the sites are good for are is bait (which is what we wanted). The ISK we get from them just isn't worth the ships we have to put on the line to run the sites. That said most people say that you should plan on the ISK coming from framing the static. So a hole with a C3 static sounds pretty good.

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