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Breaking News - Ishukone meets with Gallente Senate on Caldari Prime
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Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#41 - 2014-03-21 01:44:22 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
You will address me as Priano-haani-- or have those Sansha nanites caused you to forget decorum as well as decency?


Careful now, Pyre doesn't want to be reminded about that. Besides, according to her, they aren't real Nation anyways! They're just cute little neutral pirates. Even if they were, it's all For The State. That's good enough reason for them to work with Nation loyalists (not just for us to work with the Fed).

Katrina Oniseki
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#42 - 2014-03-21 01:48:33 UTC
Pardon, Oniseki-Charantes-haani; I forgot that we were protecting them from backlash due to their collaboration with the Sanshas.

Citizen Veikitamo, I am not privy to Reppola-haan's plans. I can only trust that he is working to either expand Ishukone Okusaika's interests on Caldari Prime, or has other matters to tend to-- but surely just as you speak in favor of dialogue, we must trust that dialogue is the aim here? Just as we know that Ishukone Okusaika is a loyal member of the State, surely we must trust that each corporation must serve its own interests, so that each megacorporation may better serve the State?

In any case, time will tell. I have faith in Reppola-haan's ability to lead, and time will surely show this faith well-placed.

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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#43 - 2014-03-21 02:21:04 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:

Careful now, Pyre doesn't want to be reminded about that. Besides, according to her, they aren't real Nation anyways! They're just cute little neutral pirates. Even if they were, it's all For The State. That's good enough reason for them to work with Nation loyalists (not just for us to work with the Fed).


Please, continue, Mademoiselle Charantes. Consider me intrigued.

Kurilaivonen|Concern
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#44 - 2014-03-21 02:26:54 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Katrina Oniseki wrote:

Careful now, Pyre doesn't want to be reminded about that. Besides, according to her, they aren't real Nation anyways! They're just cute little neutral pirates. Even if they were, it's all For The State. That's good enough reason for them to work with Nation loyalists (not just for us to work with the Fed).


Please, continue, Mademoiselle Charantes. Consider me intrigued.


Oh no, you called me Mademoiselle. It hurts so badly. Oh, no. Oh. Please, help.

Katrina Oniseki
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2014-03-21 02:27:43 UTC
I do have to wonder, why are many Caldari displeased with Ishukone's actions? Yes, I can understand many still have animosity towards the Federation, and rightfully so. However, surely advocating for peace is beneficial in the long run?

Then again, those weapon sales will go down when the war ends...

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#46 - 2014-03-21 02:28:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
I think-- I think she's taken with Gallente affectations? I'm not sure I understand. The language is so phlegmy. Perhaps she has a cold? I'm sure they have nanites for that...?

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2014-03-21 02:30:46 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
I think-- I think she's taken with Gallente affectations? I'm not sure I understand. The language is so phlegmy. Perhaps she has a cold?


Excusez-moi?

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
Kyoko Sakoda
Achura-Waschi Exchange
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#48 - 2014-03-21 02:37:59 UTC
I like pie.

There, I believe I've now made the most meaningful contribution thus far.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#49 - 2014-03-21 02:44:35 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Then again, those weapon sales will go down when the war ends...


Nah. Nobody ever went broke selling weapons.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Trollkitamo Guesmypostin
Doomheim
#50 - 2014-03-21 03:03:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Trollkitamo Guesmypostin
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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2014-03-21 03:33:04 UTC
Roleplaying? Sorry, we don't do that kinky stuff here. Mostly intergalactic politics. I'm afraid you'll have to look elsewhere.

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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#52 - 2014-03-21 04:06:48 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Roleplaying? Sorry, we don't do that kinky stuff here. Mostly intergalactic politics. I'm afraid you'll have to look elsewhere.

We don't? *puts handcuffs and CONCORD uniform away* I mean, right, we don't.....

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#53 - 2014-03-21 04:15:46 UTC
CONCORD clearly needs to look at its licensing requirements.

Maker, now I know why those baseliners think we're mad...

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Laurentis Thiesant
Institute of Social Development
#54 - 2014-03-21 04:22:44 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
CONCORD clearly needs to look at its licensing requirements.

Maker, now I know why those baseliners think we're mad...


I thought it was mighty hilarious... to be perfectly honest.
Not the time or the place, no, but enjoyable all the same.

Everyone enjoys a good ... whatever that was.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#55 - 2014-03-21 04:23:36 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
CONCORD clearly needs to look at its licensing requirements.

Maker, now I know why those baseliners think we're mad...

Because we blow each other up just to pass time and get a few giggles?

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#56 - 2014-03-21 05:19:29 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I don't remember seeing you there, Priano-haani, but even if you were (actually especially if you were) I wouldn't expect you to talk about me as if I had contributed nothing to the peace.


I had thought such a blow below you, Tuulinen. While you're waving your heiian around, you're insulting every pilot who operates outside of your conditioned operational pattern, who was deployed elsewhere, or who simply was stopped at the stargates outside of the system. Frankly, you're insulting me, personally, because-- what? Because you want to have been the dutiful soldier, beyond reproach because of your service?


I am the dutiful soldier, damn you. Especially because my service includes a number of very nasty jobs that I can't talk about at nice parties, in addition to the ones that bring glory. I drink the tea as it comes and I'm proud of that record, and if that causes you some degree of discomfort or upset, well I don't really give a damn.

Makoto Priano wrote:
Choke on your tea, Tuulinen, because you haven't contributed to the peace any more than Tibus Heth saved Caldari Prime. Saying anything else is self-aggrandizement with no respect to the truth of the matter.


The truth of the matter is that Heth's grip on power was secure for so long as only his enemies opposed him. He didn't break until he lost the loyalty of pilots like myself who were naturally disposed to agree with his initial policies of merit over all, strength and honour and a robust dialog with the State's enemies but who took issue with his later policies.

In the meantime, everytime I climb into my pod it is to contribute to the peace. Or, at the very least, to protect Caldari State citizens from the realities of the war. Again, that's just the facts of the matter and if those facts cause you discomfort or if your own service to the State is a little harder to clearly outline, again I don't give a damn.

Makoto Priano wrote:
Were it not for Ishukone Okusaika's willingness to negotiate, once orbital support was lost, our marines would have eventually lost the rest of Caldari Prime. As it stands, that very corporation you slander as untrustworthy and opaque is the reason why you aren't passing through Federations customs to step on Caldari Prime.


I don't get to step onto Caldari Prime unless I trick my way through the Federation customs that exist at the atmo-limit or Luminaire ingress jumpgates. The battle and Ishukone's excellent negotiations with the Federation Senate didn't change things in that respect one iota for me and those like me - people who did not gain anything but who were expected to give the full measure in any case.

And here you put words into my mouth. Where I asked for more openness and for opportunities for other stakeholders to participate, you see slanderous claims of unreliability. The claim of opacity should stand without challenge, since ALL parties agree that Ishukone has not been sharing much in their reports surely you cannot take issue at THAT.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#57 - 2014-03-21 05:25:37 UTC
Going as expected, I suppose.

-Eran
Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#58 - 2014-03-21 05:27:45 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
Going as expected, I suppose.

-Eran

Disgustingly so.

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#59 - 2014-03-21 05:34:24 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:

Seriously? What is your problem?

You think to drag me into an argument against my own colleague? You should know better than to think I'll back you up before I back her up. You're not Ishukone. You're not I-RED. You're not even friendly with I-RED. You're barely on good terms with me. I don't like your attitude, I don't like your politics, and I don't like who you work for. I'm sure the feeling is mutual.


Frankly, Kat, I don't think you've ever really understood what I think, even. Asking you to understand what I feel would be highly unfair since, historically, you have issues working out what YOU feel, half the time. My problem, since you ask, was your little friend's attack of amnesia. At no point did I ask you to back me up, beyond a factual statement regarding the contribution of non-Ishukone pilots to Ishukone initiatives - contributions which arguably involved more risk, since they required us to back Ishukone against the then-Executor and the Caldari Navy. Did you forget that part? I seem to remember Lai-Dai and Wiyrkomi and Kaalakiota pilots flying your wing those days, too. Are they also to be edited out of the histories?

Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Yes, you were there assisting with evacuation of injured civilians (regardless of their loyalties) following the Third Battle of Caldari Prime. An admirable job you did there too. We're all thankful for that, especially the people whose half scorched bodies were pulled from wreckage. A lot of people died anyways. Radiation poisoning, respiratory infections, suicide, and worse. Yet far far more would have died if you weren't there, trapped all alone beneath tonnes rubble in the darkness, or choking on the ashes of their own homes. Victims of war. The fact that you were there with me above the planet doing what we could to ferry survivors to station was more than anybody asked of you.


Yes. We couldn't get everyone out. And the casualties were just as horrendous on the ground as they were on the decks of the ships lost in orbit. The whole thing was a tragedy and I, for one, don't feel you got enough credit for the job you did mobilising help for those victims. That said, I never asked for thanks or medals, just that it be remembered that on that day, there were Kalaakiota employees there, doing what could be done, alongside you and yours.

Katrina Oniseki wrote:
But don't you dare for one second come in here waving that good deed around like you deserve another aluminum foil medal on your chest. Frak that. I wasn't up there so I can throw it in people's faces. I was up there because it was the right thing to do at the time, and I had the ability to do it.


Once again, you misunderstand.

Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Now are you done demanding validation so you can win a space argument with Priano-haani, or did you want to **** in my general direction some more?


Not even if you were on fire, Katrina.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#60 - 2014-03-21 07:38:25 UTC
Ollie Rundle wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
One on a planet lousy with operatives from a clandestine organisation that has a habit of acting under its own counsel only.

I must admit that I am concerned about the lack of transparency in Ishukone's actions lately. They should remember that Home is for ALL Caldari and not just citizens of Ishukone. Only when all factions have an interest in the success of the peace will the peace endure.


Perhaps I was less than clear with my point, Pieter.

The unusual part of the diplomatic group wasn't that there was security attached to it - it was the report there was a convoy of transport-sized vessels required to get them there. I regard it as unusual to need convoys of transports to move a few diplomats and their aides around, especially if one is trying to remain discreet in their operations. However, if one's purpose is to quietly move something beyond a few diplomats a convoy coupled with a story that misdirects inquiry into its real purpose could prove most useful.



You can always tell what's going on by the security footprint. And that convoy is evidence that the provists are still a threat.

Ishukone has no shortage of resources to find things out. Something is afoot.


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