EVE General Discussion

I dont know enough to be able to predict how the market will react when CFC starts pulling resources out of the market for direct transportation and implementation in null projects.

It depends entirely, imo, on what % of high-sec resource harvesting is actually done by alts of these null-sec entities.
Those materials will no longer be passed through various "fences" and hurdles, or the market, in order to convert them to transportable materials.

Probably a rise in demand as null kicks into full production mode to take advantage of the now unimpaired transportation of materials due to compression. I expect not only will they funnel all their alts materials right out of high-sec to null, but also use the no doubt enormous ISK base they have been sitting on and unable to spend to constantly buy up and move material off the market and out there.

TLDR: I think its good for purely high-sec entities. The market will thrive on this. Miners will get fabulously rich. Multiboxers will expand their fleets from 6 to 12. Worst case scenario (but unlikely) is that some system in null becomes such a powerful resource tradehub, that it starts to rival high-sec hubs. Barring that, this just means more business for high-sec entities to sell their stuff to null-sec.

But I think its very bad for non-CFC null-sec entities, as CFC kicks into full production/growth mode.

But what do I know. I like the streamlining and trimming of loose ends this change involves. The rest is meta, and up to the players. If CFC is in a position to capitalise on this, that is their prerogative.

The one part I don't get though, is why nerf non-ore/ice reprocessing. If anything, and as has been indicated by many others, the reprocessed loot portion of ISK income in missioning and even ratting/anomaly running is quite small. Why nerf it further? I dont buy the "this will create a new profession of **** module reprocessors for an even smaller return". Makes no sense.

A little buff to miners.

Null could house a lot more players. Easily. But unless you are in a big alliance, you won't gain good foothold in null. Being in a big alliance = you are cattle to them (not even blaming them, the game system forces this at the moment for efficiency reasons).

There's little tactic to null. Mostly just "BRING MOAR NUMBAHS". If your 100 active player alliance is in the way or could even remotely pose a future risk, you'll just be erased from null. End of story. Whatever happened to CCPs plan to inprove the nullsec experience (in terms of profit/risk ratio) for small groups of people? I never saw development in this area. That was several years ago.

i dunno about you but when my small corp is active we typically ninja it in stain... no need for any foothold

I don't know but it appears to me you guys are fighting for your space in null quite extensively. Or are you telling me you're just doing it out of pity for the poor null space and actually need to run high-sec missions to pay for your expenses in null?

nah they fight cuss they are bored... not because the machanics make it fun... or are you telling me gringing 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 worth of structure HP is fun to you.

We run high sec missions because they pay better.

We also refine in high sec currently because its better there, which means its also better to mine there.

Industry? Its cheaper to buy from jita and ship it out than build in null.

Is it any wonder we don't see people trying to take our empty space?

No, no one tries because it has been done and at best lasted a few weeks before being kicked out by the big guys. If it's so worthless, why bother defending your (sometimes large) unused areas?

Root of the problem why no one wants to null. Alliance blob bombs you out as soon as you settle. That's where something has to be done. You have to be able to get your ass in null and stay there without blocking your gameplay 90% of the time by huge fleets near you. This is what CCP wanted to do quite a long time ago already. They never did. Flying around for hours in null fleeing from fights you can't win (you know, the bring more numbers thing) to be able to do half of one anomaly is neither fun nor profitable. I don't have a solution to this problem. I also don't blame you guys for doing what you do (hell, who wouldn't use their power to preserve and reinforce their position). But until something is done about the core problem with null space, me and many other players will stay the hell away.

If hi-sec at some point get so nerfed that you can't do **** in one lifetime, I'd rather stop playing eve than being forced into null space as it is now.

Well, this solves all the issues I pointed out for all the other 99.X% of the players who are interested in null space but dislike the current conditions I mentioned earlier.