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solo WH PVP Loki help

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Dick Rude
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-03-19 18:30:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Dick Rude
So I'm headed into W-space to hunt some people and shinys.

Decided I'll fly a Loki, and found this fit :

[Loki, loki shield]
Damage Control II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
10MN Microwarpdrive II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Caldari Navy Adaptive Invulnerability Field

425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization
Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding



It's a nice ship, EHP 101,332 but it would cost 1.1B according to EFT
Dick Rude
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-03-19 18:31:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Dick Rude
How much do I suffer by sacrificing the Faction gyros for Gyro II's, and more so dropping the grade of the disruptor and invulnerability field to drop the price? Something like this which EFT says is 562M.
EHP on this is 82,328. The 20k EHP is a huge difference, what kind of impact is that in W-space?

Any other suggestions to do a more affordable version?



[Loki, loki shield]
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Dark Blood Warp Disruptor
10MN Microwarpdrive II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Domination Adaptive Invulnerability Field

425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization
Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Zor'katar
Matari Recreation
#3 - 2014-03-19 19:10:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Zor'katar
Edit: You're probably talking PvP, so disregard me.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#4 - 2014-03-19 23:51:22 UTC
Cloaky Loki really lacks dps to be an efficient solo hunter, the tank doesn't matter that much as ideally you'll only pick targets you know you can kill. Trying to kill anom-running ships can prove very difficult because they usually have quite significant tanks, and the sleepers might switch to you which will ruin your plans, usually you wait till they're done with the anoms and kill the salvage boat. Other targets would be things like Industrials doing P.I. and mining ships, theres really not much else you can take on with a cloaky Loki in WHs. That being said I'd use the second fit because tank doesn't matter that much, but I would keep the faction gyros to squeeze out as much dps as possible.
Blodhgarm Dethahal
8 Sins of Man
Stray Dogs.
#5 - 2014-03-20 13:24:49 UTC
Get a Proteus.

Or possibly a Pilgrim, neuts would break the tank on most ratters and TD's keep you safe from guns. You may need a scan alt if you choose Pilgrim.

Personally, I don't see much a solo Cloki would be able to do. Its a good scout, but taking on targets solo isn't a strong suit.
Dick Rude
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-03-20 13:25:48 UTC
Thanks for the feedback. Would it be better to go with drones on a cloaky? Is that even possible?

Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#7 - 2014-03-20 14:08:03 UTC
Blodhgarm Dethahal wrote:
Get a Proteus.

Or possibly a Pilgrim, neuts would break the tank on most ratters and TD's keep you safe from guns. You may need a scan alt if you choose Pilgrim.

Personally, I don't see much a solo Cloki would be able to do. Its a good scout, but taking on targets solo isn't a strong suit.


Yeah Proteus is pretty much the only one that can bring both the tank and dps to be a credible threat to most ships, Pilgrim on the other hand is excellent at taking out mission runners because of the neuts, most WHers like to run can-stable fits simply because the logistics of moving cap boosters is really annoying, so you'll easily break the tank of anom running ships, while still being able to take on the other defenseless targets like noctis, barges, indies etc.
God's Apples
Wilderness
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#8 - 2014-03-20 16:46:43 UTC
[Loki, Solo Cloaky]
Internal Force Field Array I
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
Warp Disruptor II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Combat Scanner Probe
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization

Carry a depot and before you gank refit to tactical targeting network sub and med neut in place of the probe launcher. 500 heated dps against resist holes and med neut should be enough to slay a carebear in time. When you're in warp to the bear, decloak when you get about a million meters away so when you land you are able to lock right away. It also goes ~2800 with heat and zor's so you should be able to escape most sour situations assuming you're not scrammed. You also have nearly 1k dps tank with pill and a base of 38k ehp which means roughly 80k ehp after ASB is used up.

"Hydra Reloaded are just jealous / butthurt on me / us because we can get tons of PVP action in empire while they aren't good enough to get that." - NightmareX