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Why do we hate miners so much?

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Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#21 - 2014-03-19 18:37:45 UTC
Prince Sanguine wrote:
I hate them with a passion. I've done my fair share of ganking and tear collecting, but even in null when I think of miners it makes me automatically hate them. Yes, I understand the need for it but when someone is only a miner and does nothing else it just makes me die inside. Not taking into consideration the bots/afk miners how do you miners live with yourselves? It's not all about isk.

The only thing I can do to remedy this is occasionally jump into hs to collect tears, but even then I am still left unsatisfied. What can I do to be a bigger burden to these sub class players?

Why do you hate miners?


u mad?
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#22 - 2014-03-19 18:38:54 UTC
Posting in a honeypot thread to add to the list of mining corps to dec.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Chaotix Morwen
Church Of BDSM
#23 - 2014-03-19 18:42:01 UTC
I run an indi corp that often works directly with miners, and im sad to say that i do indeed hate miners. There are as always exceptions but i find nearly every miner i come across to be pretty petty about absolutely everything. They have a big carry on if they get ganked in an untanked retriever in 0.5 and whinge that they have no options but to die...well hello procurer. I ask for a small donation after several hours boosting in my orca (3%) and they red me until they need a new boost...which they bloody well wont get.

Not to mention this constant mindest that what they mine is free...so they build cheap crap out of it and screw up the prices in my area, love the forethought guys. Hell, the only good thing i find about miners is the stress relief i get when i bring out my ganking alts.
Steve Dolk
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2014-03-19 18:43:17 UTC
I'm a miner and I have always been - and I like it. I like collecting stuff, so seing my ore hold being filled makes me happy. I don't see the need to hate miners - we are the back bone of Eve, without us there would be nothing to fly around in.
It's kinda boring, yes, but it's our own choice, so no need to go kill someone who can't fight back. Go find some others in combat ships and go play -pew pew pew- with them.

- Steve
Winchester Steele
#25 - 2014-03-19 18:51:41 UTC
Prince Sanguine wrote:
I hate them with a passion. I've done my fair share of ganking and tear collecting, but even in null when I think of miners it makes me automatically hate them. Yes, I understand the need for it but when someone is only a miner and does nothing else it just makes me die inside. Not taking into consideration the bots/afk miners how do you miners live with yourselves? It's not all about isk.

The only thing I can do to remedy this is occasionally jump into hs to collect tears, but even then I am still left unsatisfied. What can I do to be a bigger burden to these sub class players?

Why do you hate miners?



Sorry. I don't "hate" anyone, especially in a video game. There's enough hate going around IRL, no need to bring that **** into Eve.

I do however strongly disagree with the notion that Eve is a) a single-player mining simulator and b) should be made perfectly safe. This attitude seems prevalent amongst miners. I would have a beer with anyone of my gank victims though -- no hard feelings, it's just a game.

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Winchester Steele
#26 - 2014-03-19 18:53:45 UTC
Altessa Post wrote:
I hate tear collectors with a passion. There is no need for it. I do not even believe (most) of you that you derive joy from harassing others. You probably do this out of boredom/lack of imagination. Yet, you diminish the joy others have in playing a game. Plus, you probably have an impact on the user base. I could imagine that there are less people playing EVE than there would be without you.
How do you live with yourselves?



You hate someone over internet pixels. How do YOU live with yourself?

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Winchester Steele
#27 - 2014-03-19 18:55:14 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Sounds like OP needs some anger management, and sub class... so you're a racist by heart ok.

/c



Chribba smackdown, worst smackdown.

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Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#28 - 2014-03-19 19:01:13 UTC
Another pathetic thread brought to you by the fine people of Eve online...
Salvos Rhoska
#29 - 2014-03-19 19:04:54 UTC
There are two kinds of miners I hate, and more often than not, they are actually the same person:

-Miners who have taken high-sec Ice Mining to a ridiculous extreme with enormous multibox fleets.
(Not so much their own fault however, its more CCPs Ice Belt design that needs to be brought in line with standard Ore Anomalies)

-Miners who want to change game design in their own selfish favor, by turning high-sec mining into an even lower risk activity than it is already.
Anslo
Scope Works
#30 - 2014-03-19 19:05:56 UTC
Winchester Steele wrote:
Altessa Post wrote:
I hate tear collectors with a passion. There is no need for it. I do not even believe (most) of you that you derive joy from harassing others. You probably do this out of boredom/lack of imagination. Yet, you diminish the joy others have in playing a game. Plus, you probably have an impact on the user base. I could imagine that there are less people playing EVE than there would be without you.
How do you live with yourselves?



You hate someone over internet pixels. How do YOU live with yourself?


The same way I do; with a smile.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#31 - 2014-03-19 19:06:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Steve Dolk wrote:
I'm a miner and I have always been - and I like it. I like collecting stuff, so seing my ore hold being filled makes me happy. I don't see the need to hate miners - we are the back bone of Eve, without us there would be nothing to fly around in.
It's kinda boring, yes, but it's our own choice, so no need to go kill someone who can't fight back. Go find some others in combat ships and go play -pew pew pew- with them.

- Steve
Miners can fight back, it's called making yourself an unattractive target by being hard to kill.

I've ganked miners with others on another character, I associate with people who gank miners because they're good for my income via the market demands they trigger. Most of them will tell you the following:

If you're flying a ship that requires too much investment or effort to gank you'll generally be left alone, unless of course you make yourself a target through other means, like being a gobshite.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#32 - 2014-03-19 19:08:21 UTC
Find me and try to gank me. If you are successful you will see zero tears. You know why? I know the exact environment I play within.

P.S. The fact that you 'hate' individuals for playing differently says more about you then it does about us miners.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#33 - 2014-03-19 19:11:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Slade Trillgon wrote:
Find me and try to gank me. If you are successful you will see zero tears. You know why? I know the exact environment I play within.
Same. If you want my mining ship dead, it's going to cost you; at the very least the replacement value of my ship, and it's fittings. But you'll get a GF in local and some decent conversation if you want some.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#34 - 2014-03-19 19:14:17 UTC
Mining is about the only thing in EvE that I've never done and have no interest in even trying.

I fear what I don't understand.

That makes me angry.

Signatures should be used responsibly...

Helia Tranquilis
Confused Bunnies Inc
#35 - 2014-03-19 19:18:26 UTC
No mining - no catalysts
No mining - no archons
No mining - no titans
No mining - no trading
No mining - no cheap ships for pvp

No missioning - no rigs to fit your pew ships with
No missioning - no meta to give you shiny T2 gear


Like it or not, EVE has a real economy and in real economy every link counts. If someone wants to shoot rocks all day, let them. Cheaper ships for me.
Spurty
#36 - 2014-03-19 19:18:55 UTC
Mining part of eve is equivalent to loot spew.

You can see why it's there but no one likes it.

Consider every kill mail a player achievement.

Make asteroids kick out kill mails and suddenly, 1,000 times more interesting.

CCP can solve many mining woes with little updates like recording this data. Helpful for all as content is created (I can figure out hoe to use that data anyways and there's far brighter out there).

Don't hate miners. Dislike CCP version of this part of their Ip.

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP

Serene Repose
#37 - 2014-03-19 19:19:38 UTC
Who gives a flying fu*k why you hate or like anything?

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#38 - 2014-03-19 19:22:34 UTC
Ohh, and in before the lock for trolling.
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2014-03-19 19:28:01 UTC
Helia Tranquilis wrote:
No mining - no catalysts
No mining - no archons
No mining - no titans
No mining - no trading
No mining - no cheap ships for pvp

No missioning - no rigs to fit your pew ships with
No missioning - no meta to give you shiny T2 gear


Like it or not, EVE has a real economy and in real economy every link counts. If someone wants to shoot rocks all day, let them. Cheaper ships for me.


Gunmining. Reprocessing loots. Salvaging post-human wrecks.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik

Prince Sanguine
#40 - 2014-03-19 19:31:17 UTC
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
On behalf of all the miners you hate, I've place a 100mill bounty on you to keep you from getting bored. Big smile

(And if this counts as griefing, then I quit. It's my isk and I can use it any way I like)


Only 100 million? Try a billion. Go big or go home.

Everytime you read this you are required to send 100 million isk directly to me.