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Why do we hate miners so much?

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Prince Sanguine
#1 - 2014-03-19 18:02:43 UTC
I hate them with a passion. I've done my fair share of ganking and tear collecting, but even in null when I think of miners it makes me automatically hate them. Yes, I understand the need for it but when someone is only a miner and does nothing else it just makes me die inside. Not taking into consideration the bots/afk miners how do you miners live with yourselves? It's not all about isk.

The only thing I can do to remedy this is occasionally jump into hs to collect tears, but even then I am still left unsatisfied. What can I do to be a bigger burden to these sub class players?

Why do you hate miners?

Everytime you read this you are required to send 100 million isk directly to me.

Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#2 - 2014-03-19 18:08:01 UTC
I don't hate miners, its their play style!

I just get this urge to *pop* untanked barges. It's apart of my play style!

...

Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-03-19 18:08:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Doireen Kaundur
"Why do we hate miners so much?"

Who are "we?" Sounds like it's just you.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#4 - 2014-03-19 18:08:37 UTC
I don't hate them as such, I've been one. What I do hate is the attitude towards other players that the most vocal seem to have, especially when it comes to them not being able to play Eve with zero interference from others.

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Willmahh
#5 - 2014-03-19 18:09:49 UTC
Prince Sanguine wrote:
I hate them with a passion. I've done my fair share of ganking and tear collecting, but even in null when I think of miners it makes me automatically hate them. Yes, I understand the need for it but when someone is only a miner and does nothing else it just makes me die inside. Not taking into consideration the bots/afk miners how do you miners live with yourselves? It's not all about isk.

The only thing I can do to remedy this is occasionally jump into hs to collect tears, but even then I am still left unsatisfied. What can I do to be a bigger burden to these sub class players?

Why do you hate miners?


you still haven`t said why you hate them...
Altessa Post
Midnight special super sexy
#6 - 2014-03-19 18:10:42 UTC
I hate tear collectors with a passion. There is no need for it. I do not even believe (most) of you that you derive joy from harassing others. You probably do this out of boredom/lack of imagination. Yet, you diminish the joy others have in playing a game. Plus, you probably have an impact on the user base. I could imagine that there are less people playing EVE than there would be without you.
How do you live with yourselves?

On the internet, you can be whatever you want to be. It is amazing that so many people chose to be stupid.

Jessica Duranin
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-03-19 18:12:21 UTC
I don't hate miners, I hate mining.
That's why I let other people do it.
Altessa Post
Midnight special super sexy
#8 - 2014-03-19 18:17:28 UTC
My argument is simple: miners are the easiest customers of the game. Yet, they pay the same subscription fee like the null bears who always demand new stuff. More miners would mean a continuous stream of easy income for CCP.
Basically, you do not harvest tears, you are peeing in your own swimming pool.

On the internet, you can be whatever you want to be. It is amazing that so many people chose to be stupid.

Invisusira
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#9 - 2014-03-19 18:19:16 UTC
Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-03-19 18:19:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Doireen Kaundur
Prince Sanguine wrote:
I hate them with a passion. I've done my fair share of ganking and tear collecting, but even in null when I think of miners it makes me automatically hate them. Yes, I understand the need for it but when someone is only a miner and does nothing else it just makes me die inside. Not taking into consideration the bots/afk miners how do you miners live with yourselves? It's not all about isk.

The only thing I can do to remedy this is occasionally jump into hs to collect tears, but even then I am still left unsatisfied. What can I do to be a bigger burden to these sub class players?

Why do you hate miners?



Mining is time consuming. Whenever you engage in something time consuming, you get target fixation and anything that distracts you from your objective becomes a source of frustration (thus the miner's carebear attitudes)

Now, mining also is non-combative gameplay. So, picking on non-combatants just goes to show you suffer from chronic assholeism since a miner's ability to fight back is limited without switching to another ship....by which time you have long gone, hero.

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#11 - 2014-03-19 18:20:53 UTC
Sounds like OP needs some anger management, and sub class... so you're a racist by heart ok.

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Na Und
Galactronics
#12 - 2014-03-19 18:21:25 UTC
I think people hate miners because they don't fight back, and it's too easy to kill them.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#13 - 2014-03-19 18:21:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Altessa Post wrote:
Plus, you probably have an impact on the user base. I could imagine that there are less people playing EVE than there would be without you.
How do you live with yourselves?
People are drawn to Eve via trailers that encourage you to embrace the dark side, its huge array of player interactions and by the media reports about the various scams and shenanigans involving explosions that we get up to. Without the so called "griefers" Eve would get very little press at all, let alone be featured in publications with readerships in the 10's of millions.

They aren't drawn to Eve by the PvE experience, primarily because its fairly mediocre.

TL;DR The stuff that you're complaining about is the major draw for all those new players, some can deal with it when it affects them, some can't.

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Anomaly One
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-03-19 18:22:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Anomaly One
as a miner a thesis can probably be written on this subject and have all internet psychologists jump in, it's a psychoanalyst playground essentially.. but for a few basic reasons

-most people hate mining and can't understand how others even enjoy doing it
-most miners are regarded as bots/afk morons
-most miners multibox
-they are the weakest prey in the game, an explorer can cloak, a trader doesn't leave the station etc. so they make good target practice.
-as target dummies they are easily found, most times you don't need to scan where a miner is, just jump between asteroids on d-scan.
-guarding miners is more boring than mining, so you will never find resistance

(continued in a few mins)

-they often rage the most, have no idea that they are playing a sandbox or that they are even in a multiplayer game, they think that eve is a mining simulator, after being ganked they cry and rage that the game is unfair. (half/half)
-you can easily extract their tears
-miner tears have a unique taste to them, depending on what the miner has been mining. (veldspar tears taste like ****, scordites not so much)

-miners hate other miners:
> solo miner vs multiboxer
> active miner vs bots/afk
> miners who just cleaned out a 10 asteroid fields in the time it took you to undock


To me, I find missioners more annoying, let's face it, like half the miners don't even do it for the profit they just want to be left alone and do something relaxing.

Another thing is that most whining/crying comes from other players (gankers, freighter pilots, isk/hour nutjobs (including miners) and missioners) your average normal miners mostly rage in game (heavily sometimes) after being taken out and they just go on with it, the few that post are mostly trolls and the multiboxers.

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2014-03-19 18:24:08 UTC
Noone hates miners Straight
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#16 - 2014-03-19 18:25:11 UTC
I only hate miners that leave half finished grav sites sitting in space until they time out instead of mining them out and have a new one spawn somewhere immediately.

And anyone that flies a Skiff without an afterburner.
Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-03-19 18:30:15 UTC
"we"? "oui"? ...

Original poster must be French or something.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#18 - 2014-03-19 18:32:56 UTC
I have no problem with miners. Lots of my Eve friends are miners.

I DO have a problem with AFK miners, mouthy highsec entitled miners and bot miners though...



Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
#19 - 2014-03-19 18:36:08 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
I have no problem with miners. I know lots of people who are miners.

I DO have a problem with AFK miners, mouthy highsec entitled miners and bot miners though...






Fixed that for yoooo :)



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Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-03-19 18:37:08 UTC
On behalf of all the miners you hate, I've place a 100mill bounty on you to keep you from getting bored. Big smile

(And if this counts as griefing, then I quit. It's my isk and I can use it any way I like)

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