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Minnie FW = dead?

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Fremantle
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-03-19 10:13:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Fremantle
I've heard rumors that Minmatar FW is almost non-existent these days. It's even been suggested that Amarrians soon will turn against each other in order to find targets. Since I'm looking at getting involved in FW, I wonder if there is any truth to this?
Colt Blackhawk
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-03-19 12:50:11 UTC
Yes minnies are completely dead, the amarr bored to hell and that´s why I left :p
Plus fw is these days farmwille. Lp lp lp lp... Couldn´t hear it any more.
Last minnies you can find in huola. But as long as you don´t come with half their numbers they won´t undock.
So... forget it :P

[09:04:53] Ashira Twilight > Plant the f****** amarr flag and s*** on their smoking wrecks.

l0rd carlos
Goryn Clade
#3 - 2014-03-19 12:59:14 UTC
They can't even defend systems that are 2 jumps from hek :(

Youtube Channel about Micro and Small scale PvP with commentary: Fleet Commentary by l0rd carlos

X Gallentius
Black Eagle5
Villore Accords
#4 - 2014-03-19 13:45:49 UTC
l0rd carlos wrote:
They can't even defend systems that are 2 jumps from hek :(

Somebody doesn't get it.....
Maximus Decimal
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-03-19 14:42:54 UTC
So who is to blame for the 'death' of the minmatar militia?
Micky Nox
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-03-19 14:48:48 UTC
Those are minmatar killboards…

Weazl - http://www.weazl.org/Kills/ (shameless self promo)
FeO - http://rust-in-pieces.org/kills/
LNA - http://lna.eve-kill.net
Defiant - http://defiant.eve-kill.net/
Ushra - http://ushrakhan.eve-kill.net
Triad - http://triad-eve.net/killboard/
ETTI - http://etti.eve-kill.net
(i probably missed someone)

As you can see, we are not dead :)

At the same time I haven't seen cruiser size amarr fleet for ages (if they do exist please tell where we can find them). Currently we getting more fights from local pirate groups (DBD, Suddenly, Sex-Panther) because they know their **** and don't whine (well, almost).

Minmatar do deliver good fights if you bring something that worth undocking. And since we have extremely high traffic in huola/kourm area we don't have to go far away from our home system/reships. So we are where fight are.

Defending warzone against swarm of stabbed plexing alts is boring and frustrating.
Charlie Firpol
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-03-19 14:50:45 UTC
Maximus Decimal wrote:
So who is to blame for the 'death' of the minmatar militia?


The Pendulum

The Butcher of Black Rise - eve-radio.com

Anslo
Scope Works
#8 - 2014-03-19 17:45:01 UTC
Who in the everloving **** told you it's dead? O.o

The zone has been so active that BNI, Nuli, DarknessDOT and others are coming to fight. Hell, Scope came down in October 2013 and never left. This place is anything but dead.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Tsobai Hashimoto
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-03-19 17:51:13 UTC
It won't last to long.....its a lot of work to keep t3/t4 from an active group..... You get burned out and in the back of your mind you would like a break and like to see the prices change up a bit at t1.

They are going to do some roams. Some fights and dink around. You just don't see them plexing. Also the alts left....

In a month or so they will get s wild hair and start hitting a few systems and momentum will slowly change. As amarr I'm already bored to tears of the LP. Earned almost 800k in two hours last night..... I know I'm not dplexing lol
Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
#10 - 2014-03-19 18:20:42 UTC
It feels that on the amarr side there nothing but farmers left now. Now after Biohazard joined the Amarr, flipped a few systems to feel relevant and then failed hard to hit tier 5, the pendulum is starting to swing back.

It's about time anyway, i'm set for life on **** cheap amarr faction ships.

On the other hand, the area is incredibly active with local pirates, neutral gangs and all sorts of people. We're having lots of fights and lots of fun. There's just no reason to even go further than 2 jumps from Huola.

pew pew

Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#11 - 2014-03-19 18:23:14 UTC
not yet but we are working on it

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance
Team Amarrica
#12 - 2014-03-19 18:39:32 UTC
Zen Guerrilla wrote:
It feels that on the amarr side there nothing but farmers left now. Now after Biohazard joined the Amarr, flipped a few systems to feel relevant and then failed hard to hit tier 5, the pendulum is starting to swing back.

It's about time anyway, i'm set for life on **** cheap amarr faction ships.

On the other hand, the area is incredibly active with local pirates, neutral gangs and all sorts of people. We're having lots of fights and lots of fun. There's just no reason to even go further than 2 jumps from Huola.

failed on hitting t5? we havent even dumped our lp for t5 yet.

Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro

Deen Wispa
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-03-19 19:53:40 UTC
Micky Nox wrote:
Those are minmatar killboards…

Weazl - http://www.weazl.org/Kills/ (shameless self promo)
FeO - http://rust-in-pieces.org/kills/
LNA - http://lna.eve-kill.net
Defiant - http://defiant.eve-kill.net/
Ushra - http://ushrakhan.eve-kill.net
Triad - http://triad-eve.net/killboard/
ETTI - http://etti.eve-kill.net
(i probably missed someone)

As you can see, we are not dead :)

At the same time I haven't seen cruiser size amarr fleet for ages (if they do exist please tell where we can find them). Currently we getting more fights from local pirate groups (DBD, Suddenly, Sex-Panther) because they know their **** and don't whine (well, almost).

Minmatar do deliver good fights if you bring something that worth undocking. And since we have extremely high traffic in huola/kourm area we don't have to go far away from our home system/reships. So we are where fight are.

Defending warzone against swarm of stabbed plexing alts is boring and frustrating.


I'm looking at these KBs, and most of the Gallente corps I know have 2x as many kills. Minnie/Amarr is more farmville than Gallente/Caldari is. And you get more variety of ship hulls to fight than what you face in Minnie Warzone.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .

Plug in Baby
Broken Hearts Love Chocolate
#14 - 2014-03-19 20:10:59 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
I'm looking at these KBs, and most of the Gallente corps I know have 2x as many kills. Minnie/Amarr is more farmville than Gallente/Caldari is. And you get more variety of ship hulls to fight than what you face in Minnie Warzone.


I often hear that Gal/Cal is pretty quiet, could you provide some examples please?

This is not a forum alt, this is a forum main.

Veskrashen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-03-19 20:29:52 UTC
Plug in Baby wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
I'm looking at these KBs, and most of the Gallente corps I know have 2x as many kills. Minnie/Amarr is more farmville than Gallente/Caldari is. And you get more variety of ship hulls to fight than what you face in Minnie Warzone.


I often hear that Gal/Cal is pretty quiet, could you provide some examples please?


JUSTK Killboard

If you pull up DotLan, you can see that almost 800 ships and pods have died in Enaluri in the past 24 hours. This isn't at all unusual in the Cal / Gal warzone, especially when a push is being made on an occupied system. The Oicx offensive, which finished on Sunday, featured more than 1200+ per day for almost a week.

If you look at DotLan's monthly stats, you'll see that the Cal/Gal warzone regions of Black Rise, Placid and Essence are #2/3/4 in ship kills for the month of March so far, and The Citadel is #7. Moreover, you can see that there's been more ships killed in Oicx than any nullsec system, and 4 more Cal/Gal systems are also in the top 10 - all of which have more kills so far this month than 9/10 of the top nullsec systems.

Cal / Gal FW is where you go for PvP, hands down.

We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..."

Deen Wispa
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-03-19 20:34:59 UTC
Plug in Baby wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
I'm looking at these KBs, and most of the Gallente corps I know have 2x as many kills. Minnie/Amarr is more farmville than Gallente/Caldari is. And you get more variety of ship hulls to fight than what you face in Minnie Warzone.


I often hear that Gal/Cal is pretty quiet, could you provide some examples please?


How can the warzone be quiet when Gal/Cal yields 2x as many kills than Minnie/Amarr month after month? Opening up the FW window ingame will show those numbers.

As for entities outside of militia, you have Waffles, Balex, UCF, Harlequins, Eve Uni,and many smaller gangs at the 5-10 man size. Of course, most of the bigger entities have their batphones so it may be a bit too much for a small corp to take on head on. And don't forget that Syndicate is next door and full of skirmishes if you like to roam.

There are a couple of Caldari FCs who can herd enough cats to get a fun 20 man Drake gang or 30 man T1 cruiser gang on a weekend. I don't think you get that often enough in Minnie/Amarr.

Admittedly, it is possible that Minnie/Amarr could be on the upswing again with BNI only being a dozen jumps away and all the attention they attract.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .

SmokinJs Arthie
Black Eagle5
Villore Accords
#17 - 2014-03-19 20:37:47 UTC
Plug in Baby wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
I'm looking at these KBs, and most of the Gallente corps I know have 2x as many kills. Minnie/Amarr is more farmville than Gallente/Caldari is. And you get more variety of ship hulls to fight than what you face in Minnie Warzone.


I often hear that Gal/Cal is pretty quiet, could you provide some examples please?


Numbers don't lie.

zkillboard's kills by faction, for the past 90 days:

Gallente Federation 86.98k
Caldari State 77.74k
Amarr Empire 68.54k
Minmatar Republic 48.32k
Plug in Baby
Broken Hearts Love Chocolate
#18 - 2014-03-19 20:40:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Plug in Baby
Veskrashen wrote:
Plug in Baby wrote:
[quote=Deen Wispa]I'm looking at these KBs, and most of the Gallente corps I know have 2x as many kills. Minnie/Amarr is more farmville than Gallente/Caldari is. And you get more variety of ship hulls to fight than what you face in Minnie Warzone.


Cal / Gal FW is where you go for PvP, hands down.


Seems a lot less farmy than it used to be. Justified seems to be pretty comparable to some of the Minmatar KBs linked above, of order around 1bn ISK / month / member, or a bit above. Better than some sure, but not worlds apart.

As others have pointed out a lot of the PVP in min/amarr is with 3rd parties rather than strictly FW, which I guess leads to the variety in ships.

Not really sure why there is a debate on this though, its pretty clear there is a lot of PVP in space, which warzone is better is a bit irrelevant really.

Edit: Whiteknight cascade,

I should probably point out I don't care for frigates so ISK seems the better metric, 3rd parties aren't exactly drawn in by frigs in minors lets face it.

This is not a forum alt, this is a forum main.

praying mantis01
Did he say Jump
Dock Workers
#19 - 2014-03-19 20:41:53 UTC
Zen Guerrilla wrote:
It feels that on the amarr side there nothing but farmers left now. Now after Biohazard joined the Amarr, flipped a few systems to feel relevant and then failed hard to hit tier 5, the pendulum is starting to swing back.

It's about time anyway, i'm set for life on **** cheap amarr faction ships.

On the other hand, the area is incredibly active with local pirates, neutral gangs and all sorts of people. We're having lots of fights and lots of fun. There's just no reason to even go further than 2 jumps from Huola.



Considering you cant even keep you pocos alive from fleets half your size i dont see you hitting any hubs. Now that bio have left Amarr will constantly stay high as the rest of Minmatar don't leave huola.

Aslon Seridith
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
#20 - 2014-03-19 20:42:20 UTC
Confirming, since WINMATAR left & joined Amarr. Minmatar militia is dead & lost it's purpose (your better off pirate)

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