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Why am I so awful at combat (and everything else)?

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Balshem Rozenzweig
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2014-03-19 13:48:00 UTC
from what I see the obvious is you have money problems. Solve that by joining an FW corporation (even the NPC one but it might get you awoxed) and grind at least a couple hundred millions (if you pay for the sub with real money). It will allow you to buy some rigs at least ;-)

Then, if you like grinding LP as your source of income, stop skilling for whatever that is not PVP related. You need mainly int/per for that and memory if you plan on using drones. Looking at you flying rifters - I would skip drones for a while and skill for guns and missiles. Easier remap and better focus for a minie/caldari toon. You can remap for drones (int/mem) when you have good support/tank skills and at least 4s in every gunnery/missile support skill (this info is anecdotical - this is what I believe to work). It will take a while, but when you will be at the drones remap - grab ewar and tank skills too.

A way for you to learn ships - go into a system where there's some enemy activity, and enter an empty plex. Scan every 5 seconds for enemies. If you see a solo, non-navy t1 frigate incoming - engage. Rinse and repeat for 100 times and you will learn which ships are t1 frigs and what they use in general (you do not expect a condor to be brawler for example, it happens but rarely).

If you grind really really hard and make really really good cash - start using navy frigs as they are quite popular in the amarr fw area. They will allow you to be competitive, but cost a lot and using them before you have at least average pvp experience might be costly.

If you get into a good corp - they will teach you everything. Mine is great for new players education but polish only so sry ;-)

"NUTS!!!" - general McAuliffe

Marlin Spikes
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2014-03-20 00:23:38 UTC
Do it again, except with a little more win.

Choose your battles, don't just go leroying into fights with ships that out class you.

Bombers Rule!!!

Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#23 - 2014-03-20 09:52:23 UTC
Having quickly browsed your losses the most obvious thing is to improve your fits, remember in Eve half the battle is won before it even starts, a properly fitted ship goes a long way in any engagement.

My assumption since you seem to be flying Rifters is that you are Minmatar specced, the Rifter is very weak over all, I gather the Slasher is fairly good however I have never had much problems with them myself, never the less you would be wise to look for some fits for that.
Leon Caroski
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-03-21 03:48:50 UTC
Since you're running around in low sec in a frigate, my advice is that you shouldn't fly alone. EVER. Pirates love to pick off little targets, but will usually back off if they don't think they can win.

Also, try starting a convo with the guy who just killed you. He might be nice enough to give you some tips.
Hacklespur Harrowhound
The Abdication Corporation
#25 - 2014-03-28 02:36:25 UTC
I don't usually comment, but a strong sense of "I know that feel brah" came over me.

At your character age I had just peaked at over 1mil isk liquid. For serious. I never got a kill, always lost in pvp (dat early killboard doh), and generally did terrible at everything I tried.

Over 3 years later, isk is little issue, I've (poorly) FCed fleets, actually legitimately blown up pixels, etc. etc.

My advice to add would be to look for a corp that truly fits you. If it's the one you're in, cool! If not, your current corp should be understanding enough and supportive to see you move on to bigger/smaller and better things. Shop around for a group that is more fine tuned to your interests, or really push your corpmates to help.

In regards to the pvp;

-Pick a ship you absolutely love (because of awesome war stories about Vexors taking out small gangs, because you love the fact that a Thorax looks like... a classic spaceship, because you understand the role of a Tornado, because ZOMG THE TARANIS GOES FAST!, etc.) and train towards that ship and only that ship. Get comfortable with it, learn how it acts, lose a bunch of them. Fit what you want on your ship, fit what's top rated on Battleclinic, then fit what your corpmate linked that one time. The better you know a ship, no matter how truly terrible you are at pvp, will make you a better pilot. The early game is not kind to new players and the want to fly ALL THE SHIPS.
-Be more cautious than you're comfortable with. It pays dividends, and will give you more time to learn engagements and evasion (equally or arguably more important). I however do not mean be risk-adverse, but don't just jump at every chance of pew you get.
-Go to null!

Most of all, always be open to new ideas, and never give up. This is Eve Online after all.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#26 - 2014-03-28 03:06:41 UTC
Farsiris Arbosa wrote:
Have any of you met someone who has done worse than me? Even just one? It's serious question. I've yet to meet someone my age, or hell, even a month younger who has done as terrible as I have. And I've been looking. Am I as exceptionally bad as I think I am or is this somewhat common? Completely serious here.



Yeah I have met 2 people way worse at PvP than you.

One is called Greggles Midboss and the other is Orr Gallente.


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Rikanin
Mining Reloaded
The Commonwealth.
#27 - 2014-03-28 19:37:56 UTC
Joshua Foiritain wrote:
You should cancel your subscription.


You first, please.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#28 - 2014-03-28 23:00:42 UTC
I just sent him 10mil isk. If we all pitch in, then he can get a proper ship with proper fittings. Let's do a rare charity thing here!
52inches
Pixar INC
#29 - 2014-03-28 23:31:44 UTC
hey new guy

**sending pm

keep going- and well done hanging in there it'll pay off.

oh and yes there are FAR worse players lol...but who cares have fun o7

Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
#30 - 2014-03-29 02:44:57 UTC
Farsiris Arbosa wrote:
The question is: why do I suck so bad, at PvP and at everything?
Umm.... because you only have 3 months worth of skills and playing knowledge? People will often say "zomg u kan totally PvP as a noob! I restarted from scratch and got tons of killz!". Which is true. Because they have the playing knowledge to compensate for their lack of skill points.

Hate to break it to ya man, but you're probably gonna keep sucking until about 6 months in. Just the way it goes. Takes about that long before you finally put everything together that everybody was trying to explain to you all along. Part of it is getting the skill points up to a level where it makes a difference ("get under their guns" doesn't help much when you're too slow to get there and your low-skill tank is getting blasted to pieces on approach). The other part is once your skills actually start making a difference, you can see what you were doing wrong before and make changes.

So yeah, stick with it. Suck up the pain. Rely on your corp-mates. Vulture on kills when you can.
Farsiris Arbosa
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2014-03-30 20:43:21 UTC
Starbuck05 wrote:
Making money here is easy, learning to pew is better then anywhere else.


You don't get it.

The easiest task in the world for anyone else is climbing Mount Everest for me. I'm trying to get into FW but I'm just bad. I'm just inherently awful and no can change that but me, and even then in the slowest and most destructive possible way. I've gotten more help from vets than any other player I've ever known, put in a few hours a day into this game since the day I got it, and still manage to be the worst player I've ever known.

I'm looking for specific tactics that I can practice on and maybe be able to perform at a passable level after practicing for a while. Even if it's the most obvious thing in the world it's probably the last thing I'd think of. Please be a little more specific about what I need to do - I need things broken down to me because I'm not the most capable person.

Thank you for trying to help though.

Look at my sig, my sig is amazing

Farsiris Arbosa
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2014-03-30 21:28:20 UTC
Also, although I am a part of faction warfare, I've known people who earned millions more than I ever have in their first week from working independently. You have to understand that whatever I do, there's a 90% chance I'm going to fail terribly.

Oh, and by the way, here's my stats from a month after the OP was posted: *maybe* five kills, nearly 100 losses, and I still haven't made it to 100 mil. I wouldn't even have five mil to my name if it wasn't for my corp giving me fully-fitted ships for free. I make a couple mil on a good day if it wasn't a loss. I play the game for a few hours a day and have all manner of vets trying to help me and I'm still by far the worst player I know.

What could I be doing wrong? Am I as bad as I think I am?

Look at my sig, my sig is amazing

Farsiris Arbosa
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2014-03-30 21:51:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Farsiris Arbosa
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
And quit leeching off other players. Earning money here isn't that difficult, and fitting cheap-fit frigates to kill or die really isn't that expensive.


I really really really HATE taking from people. Just thinking about the stupid amounts that have been spent on my codependent ass makes me sick.

ActuaIly, I return everything I possibly can, but a lot of people (too many) feel so sorry for me that they insist I take stuff. I wish I was joking.

Then again, without the stupid amount of stuff that's been given to me, I'd be flat broke. A single mil is a LOT to me. Ten mil is enough to keep me flying crap for a week. 100 mil is...well, I've never gotten there.

The amount of ships I lose, coupled with the amount of money I (don't) make, cheap T1 frigates aren't cheap for me.

Look at my sig, my sig is amazing

masternerdguy
Doomheim
#34 - 2014-03-31 04:21:29 UTC
You need to make some friends to PVP as a group with, you'll have far better success hunting in a fleet than solo.

Things are only impossible until they are not.

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