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Medalyn Isis
Doomheim
#141 - 2014-03-19 13:15:27 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Except the math and the game says they are. Sorry but its not something that can be argued with.

The difference between you and I is I have flown battleships solo since 2003 and, you haven't.


No, you didn't, you bought your character illicitly. I've played this game for near a decade, and quit for quite a while in between subs. I have MASSIVE gaps in my knowledge of this game.

But I can't hold a candle to your sheer ignorance. Do you even play this game?

Oh, and I betcha I probably have more flight time in battleships than you do, let alone Baltec, who literally does not fly anything else.

Amusing. How low must a troll sink to try and discredit their opponent. Even more amusing when it blatantly shows their ignorance.

I think you should keep out this discussion Kaarous before you make even more a fool of yourself.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#142 - 2014-03-19 13:15:31 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Infinity Ziona wrote:

That's without sensor booster. With sensor booster its around 8 seconds.


I'm not using one. Equally, a BS can be in warp a lot faster than in 11 seconds. None of the numbers you are posting have any relevance to what happens in game. Before the warp speed changes I was well known for out running cruiser fleets in my mega, with the changes its possible for me leave them in my dust when roaming.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#143 - 2014-03-19 13:19:46 UTC
Medalyn Isis wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Except the math and the game says they are. Sorry but its not something that can be argued with.

The difference between you and I is I have flown battleships solo since 2003 and, you haven't.


No, you didn't, you bought your character illicitly. I've played this game for near a decade, and quit for quite a while in between subs. I have MASSIVE gaps in my knowledge of this game.

But I can't hold a candle to your sheer ignorance. Do you even play this game?

Oh, and I betcha I probably have more flight time in battleships than you do, let alone Baltec, who literally does not fly anything else.

Amusing. How low must a troll sink to try and discredit their opponent. Even more amusing when it blatantly shows their ignorance.

I think you should keep out this discussion Kaarous before you make even more a fool of yourself.



A fool of myself? I'm not the one claiming made up lock times. I'm merely calling the person who did, a liar. Which he is, unless pocos became sov assets in the last few hours.

White knight for the liar some more though, it's really impressive.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#144 - 2014-03-19 13:22:44 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

That's without sensor booster. With sensor booster its around 8 seconds.


I'm not using one. Equally, a BS can be in warp a lot faster than in 11 seconds. None of the numbers you are posting have any relevance to what happens in game. Before the warp speed changes I was well known for our running cruiser fleets in my mega, with the changes its possible for me leave them in my dust when roaming.

You can argue with the data all you want but that's how the game is coded. Whether you "feel" its faster is irrelevant. Go eject a cruiser in space and target it with a base Raven and see for yourself.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Medalyn Isis
Doomheim
#145 - 2014-03-19 13:26:42 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
A fool of myself?

When it comes to a test of battleship knowledge between Infinity and some random 2012 FW fweddit scrub, I think most people will listen to Infinity. (except for obvious goonswarm proponents with an axe to grind)

The fact that you ask if he has even played the game is amusing in the highest and makes you look a complete fool. I suggest you stick to FW.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#146 - 2014-03-19 13:27:54 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

You can argue with the data all you want but that's how the game is coded. Whether you "feel" its faster is irrelevant. Go eject a cruiser in space and target it with a base Raven and see for yourself.


I have flown battleships for 3 years almost exclusively, it does not take 8 seconds to lock another battleship. You have made a mistake.
Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#147 - 2014-03-19 13:28:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Chopper Rollins
Infinity Ziona wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
...
But they can already get plenty of engagements with cruisers. Locking times are not what you have put down.

Except the math and the game says they are. Sorry but its not something that can be argued with.

The difference between you and I is I have flown battleships solo since 2003 and, you haven't.


THERE is where you really should have stopped.
Came to thread looking for insight, found Unfunnity self-destructing again.

Edit: Sock puppet begone.

Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#148 - 2014-03-19 13:29:05 UTC
Medalyn Isis wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
A fool of myself?

When it comes to a test of battleship knowledge between Infinity and some random 2012 FW fweddit scrub, I think most people will listen to Infinity. (except for obvious goonswarm proponents with an axe to grind)

The fact that you ask if he has even played the game is amusing in the highest and makes you look a complete fool. I suggest you stick to FW.


You missed the part where this is a forum alt. Nice job with my corp history though, I'm totally impressed that you can rightclick my portrait and still miss my sig.

I do find it rather amusing that you believe that old IZ has any credibility left in regards to fitting and ship knowledge, though. Especially considering the whole Shield Tanked Proteus episode, and all. Nevermind the literal bevy of other stupid **** he says.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#149 - 2014-03-19 13:32:26 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Medalyn Isis wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
A fool of myself?

When it comes to a test of battleship knowledge between Infinity and some random 2012 FW fweddit scrub, I think most people will listen to Infinity. (except for obvious goonswarm proponents with an axe to grind)

The fact that you ask if he has even played the game is amusing in the highest and makes you look a complete fool. I suggest you stick to FW.


You missed the part where this is a forum alt. Nice job with my corp history though, I'm totally impressed that you can rightclick my portrait and still miss my sig.

I do find it rather amusing that you believe that old IZ has any credibility left in regards to fitting and ship knowledge, though. Especially considering the whole Shield Tanked Proteus episode, and all. Nevermind the literal bevy of other stupid **** he says.



Or (as I linked in a previous thread) a "10 year player" as he claims that very recently had to ask someone what damage type Serpentis did so he could figure out how to tank them lol.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#150 - 2014-03-19 13:33:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Medalyn Isis wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
A fool of myself?

When it comes to a test of battleship knowledge between Infinity and some random 2012 FW fweddit scrub, I think most people will listen to Infinity. (except for obvious goonswarm proponents with an axe to grind)

The fact that you ask if he has even played the game is amusing in the highest and makes you look a complete fool. I suggest you stick to FW.


You missed the part where this is a forum alt. Nice job with my corp history though, I'm totally impressed that you can rightclick my portrait and still miss my sig.

I do find it rather amusing that you believe that old IZ has any credibility left in regards to fitting and ship knowledge, though. Especially considering the whole Shield Tanked Proteus episode, and all. Nevermind the literal bevy of other stupid **** he says.

I must have touched you badly as some time in the past? Did I war dec you once?

And still going on about my shield tanked Prot lol. The fail Proteus I got 22 solo kills in an alliances null sec hub no less. I might break it out again soon :)


Jenn aSide wrote:

Or (as I linked in a previous thread) a "10 year player" as he claims that very recently had to ask someone what damage type Serpentis did so he could figure out how to tank them lol.

Actually I asked what percentages they do in terms of ken / thermal.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Marsha Mallow
#151 - 2014-03-19 13:34:02 UTC
Orpheus Nyberg wrote:
I'm still fairly new to Eve and I just was curious if there is ever much 1v1 PVP among the large size ships like Cruisers, Battlecruisers, and Battleships. I have seen plenty of discussion about frigate and destroyer 1v1 fights, fittings, etc. but not anything besides that. If this is a somewhat occurring matter, where does it usually happen as far as security zones? Also any other information relative to this subject would interest me as well.

Thanks for reading.

BS solo pvp tends to be the type where people sit in station yelling insults then undock and try bump each other off. Sometimes you get really lucky and someone undocks a dread or something in a fit of rage - nobody quite knows what they are thinking. It's not about flying about looking for a fight, except in rare cases. BC are pretty common solo ships in lowsec too. The reason you tend to see more of the really hardcore soloers doing tiny ships is more about them showing how awesome they are, and tbf killing a BS with a frig is pretty funny.

Infinity Ziona wrote:
The golem is not a battleship. Its a marauder. The difference between Golem and Raven is about the same as the difference between Proteus and Thorax.

What makes you believe the only thing that can be classed as a Battleship or Cruiser is the T1 version? It's a hull classification system, funnily enough a Marauder gets the Battleship stats as well as the Mara stats, which sort of suggests battleship on steroids. They are shaped the same, similar sizes etc >.> Are you saying a Hulk isn't really a mining barge as well - because, well look at the stats? Ohh, you could try this on bubbles, drones and ammo too. "That's NOT a drone, it's an ewar drone, its completely different you fool!" If you are correct, ISIS needs changing, and the market and all the info on all the ships ingame. AND the stats, for er, everything. We'll need new models too.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#152 - 2014-03-19 13:37:20 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Medalyn Isis wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
A fool of myself?

When it comes to a test of battleship knowledge between Infinity and some random 2012 FW fweddit scrub, I think most people will listen to Infinity. (except for obvious goonswarm proponents with an axe to grind)

The fact that you ask if he has even played the game is amusing in the highest and makes you look a complete fool. I suggest you stick to FW.


You missed the part where this is a forum alt. Nice job with my corp history though, I'm totally impressed that you can rightclick my portrait and still miss my sig.

I do find it rather amusing that you believe that old IZ has any credibility left in regards to fitting and ship knowledge, though. Especially considering the whole Shield Tanked Proteus episode, and all. Nevermind the literal bevy of other stupid **** he says.



Or (as I linked in a previous thread) a "10 year player" as he claims that very recently had to ask someone what damage type Serpentis did so he could figure out how to tank them lol.


Yeah, that was classic. Like I said, if that wasn't an illegal character sale, I will happily eat a baseball cap.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#153 - 2014-03-19 13:39:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Marsha Mallow wrote:

What makes you believe the only thing that can be classed as a Battleship or Cruiser is the T1 version? It's a hull classification system, funnily enough a Marauder gets the Battleship stats as well as the Mara stats, which sort of suggests battleship on steroids. They are shaped the same, similar sizes etc >.> Are you saying a Hulk isn't really a mining barge as well - because, well look at the stats? Ohh, you could try this on bubbles, drones and ammo too. "That's NOT a drone, it's an ewar drone, its completely different you fool!" If you are correct, ISIS needs changing, and the market and all the info on all the ships ingame. AND the stats, for er, everything. We'll need new models too.

The marauder has a distinctive ability that all other battleships do not. This is what makes it a marauder. Attempting to say battleships are fine because 'marauder' is deceptive since its that one non-battleship ability that makes it work in PvP.

I think it needs to be pointed out that the reason the Marauder in that vid was successful was because the people it was fighting were nubs.

Had one of them been smart they would have tackled it, speed tanked the torps and kept it in position while they reshipped or got support. It would have died easily because it had no ability to gtfo.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Prince Kobol
#154 - 2014-03-19 13:39:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
Medalyn Isis wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
A fool of myself?

When it comes to a test of battleship knowledge between Infinity and some random 2012 FW fweddit scrub, I think most people will listen to Infinity. (except for obvious goonswarm proponents with an axe to grind)

The fact that you ask if he has even played the game is amusing in the highest and makes you look a complete fool. I suggest you stick to FW.


No, what I will do is compare what Infinity says to what Baltec1 says and even thou I am in NC, I will take Baltec1 view every time and twice on a Sunday.

Hell I would take Baltec1 views when it comes to Battleships and their capabilities over nearly everybody else's in Eve
Marsha Mallow
#155 - 2014-03-19 13:40:44 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

The marauder has a distinctive ability that all other battleships do not. This is what makes it a marauder. Attempting to say battleships are fine because 'marauder' is deceptive since its that one non-battleship ability that makes it work in PvP.

But what about ewar drones?

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#156 - 2014-03-19 13:40:46 UTC
Before this goes any further, Infinity is using unfitted, unpiloted ships. As such they are working out a caracals sig as being a fraction of what it is when you engage one in game. This is why Infinities numbers are so far out (almost 9 times too small in the case of a caracal).
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#157 - 2014-03-19 13:43:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

The marauder has a distinctive ability that all other battleships do not. This is what makes it a marauder. Attempting to say battleships are fine because 'marauder' is deceptive since its that one non-battleship ability that makes it work in PvP.

But what about ewar drones?

What about Ewar drones?

baltec1 wrote:
Before this goes any further, Infinity is using unfitted, unpiloted ships. As such they are working out a caracals sig as being a fraction of what it is when you engage one in game. This is why Infinities numbers are so far out (almost 9 times too small in the case of a caracal).

ummmm. if anything a piloted ship will have smaller sig then an unpiloted one Baltec.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#158 - 2014-03-19 13:43:38 UTC
Medalyn Isis wrote:
I think most people will listen to Infinity.

snort
Medalyn Isis
Doomheim
#159 - 2014-03-19 13:44:35 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Medalyn Isis wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
A fool of myself?

When it comes to a test of battleship knowledge between Infinity and some random 2012 FW fweddit scrub, I think most people will listen to Infinity. (except for obvious goonswarm proponents with an axe to grind)

The fact that you ask if he has even played the game is amusing in the highest and makes you look a complete fool. I suggest you stick to FW.


No, what I will do is compare what Infinity says to what Baltec1 says and even thou I am in NC, I will take Baltec1 view every time and twice on a Sunday.

Hell I would take Baltec1 views when it comes to Battleships and their capabilities over nearly everybody else's in Eve

I just don't like to see obvious forum troll clumsily flailing insults at others, bringing down the thread to the usual low GD standard which we are accustomed too.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#160 - 2014-03-19 13:45:39 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Medalyn Isis wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
A fool of myself?

When it comes to a test of battleship knowledge between Infinity and some random 2012 FW fweddit scrub, I think most people will listen to Infinity. (except for obvious goonswarm proponents with an axe to grind)

The fact that you ask if he has even played the game is amusing in the highest and makes you look a complete fool. I suggest you stick to FW.


No, what I will do is compare what Infinity says to what Baltec1 says and even thou I am in NC, I will take Baltec1 view every time and twice on a Sunday.

Hell I would take Baltec1 views when it comes to Battleships and their capabilities over nearly everybody else's in Eve


Yep. I will without doubt let any experience I have on my own be gainsaid by the Master of the Megathron. He is very literally the subject matter expert.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.