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Ganking is PVP

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#301 - 2014-03-18 13:54:28 UTC
Kyperion wrote:


RollYes, I'm totally raging at your... that's why so many of your New Order folks have to come post how 'pathetic' I am, among other various insults.

All while participating in an activity that has been conclusively proven less of a risk than PVE in WoW

As always, fly safe and have a Bear


Some of us popping up when someone is creating an outpouring of tears about ganking is much more analogous to the phrase "blood in the water" than anything else, really.

At heart, we are very generous people. We don't mind sharing tears with one another when there is such an abundance here.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Kyperion
#302 - 2014-03-18 13:55:55 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kyperion wrote:


RollYes, I'm totally raging at your... that's why so many of your New Order folks have to come post how 'pathetic' I am, among other various insults.

All while participating in an activity that has been conclusively proven less of a risk than PVE in WoW

As always, fly safe and have a Bear


Some of us popping up when someone is creating an outpouring of tears about ganking is much more analogous to the phrase "blood in the water" than anything else, really.

At heart, we are very generous people. We don't mind sharing tears with one another when there is such an abundance here.



I know you are incredibly generous with your tears, and I thank you for all the tears you are shedding Cool they are delicious
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#303 - 2014-03-18 14:05:48 UTC
Wildly flailing about with emoticons does not disguise the fact that you can't back up any of your talk. It's much more of a sign of desperation.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Kyperion
#304 - 2014-03-18 14:13:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Kyperion
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Wildly flailing about with emoticons does not disguise the fact that you can't back up any of your talk. It's much more of a sign of desperation.


What talk is that?Lol I've told you repeatedly I'm mainly interested in flying missions in my Ishtar

You New Order gankers are the only one's with 'talk' to back up.... all these threats and insults thrown my way and I doubt you all are spending any time even looking for me.

I just point out how much you fail at shooting anything with weapons


Keep your rage posts coming though, I love how irate you get at a simple 'pathetic carebear' who pokes fun at you..... I can't even imagine the glorious rage posting you would do if I somehow by some crazy happenstance managed to down one of you. But alas, you don't engage in that kind of PVPBlink
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#305 - 2014-03-18 14:23:40 UTC
Kyperion wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Wildly flailing about with emoticons does not disguise the fact that you can't back up any of your talk. It's much more of a sign of desperation.


What talk is that?Lol I've told you repeatedly I'm mainly interested in flying missions in my Ishtar

You New Order gankers are the only one's with 'talk' to back up.... all these threats and insults thrown my way and I doubt you all are spending any time even looking for me.

I just point out how much you fail at shooting anything with weapons


Keep your rage posts coming though, I love how irate you get at a simple 'pathetic carebear' who pokes fun at you..... I can't even imagine the glorious rage posting you would do if I somehow by some crazy happenstance managed to down one of you. But alas, you don't engage in that kind of PVPBlink


What missions? What Ishtar? You don't even log in.

But again, I would point out that the person who makes a gigantic cry thread about how mining barges should have 8 racks of missiles and battleship isn't really allowed to tell anyone else that they're making "rage posts". In fact, I would argue that your wild emoting and continued denial is the true sign of someone raging out.

We all (the gankers and such) can do as we please, we demonstrate that every day.

Meanwhile, you don't even log in. /golfclap

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#306 - 2014-03-18 14:25:43 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Meanwhile, you don't even log in.
Something that is easily verifiable on a per character basis btw

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Kyperion
#307 - 2014-03-18 14:26:16 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kyperion wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Wildly flailing about with emoticons does not disguise the fact that you can't back up any of your talk. It's much more of a sign of desperation.


What talk is that?Lol I've told you repeatedly I'm mainly interested in flying missions in my Ishtar

You New Order gankers are the only one's with 'talk' to back up.... all these threats and insults thrown my way and I doubt you all are spending any time even looking for me.

I just point out how much you fail at shooting anything with weapons


Keep your rage posts coming though, I love how irate you get at a simple 'pathetic carebear' who pokes fun at you..... I can't even imagine the glorious rage posting you would do if I somehow by some crazy happenstance managed to down one of you. But alas, you don't engage in that kind of PVPBlink


What missions? What Ishtar? You don't even log in.

But again, I would point out that the person who makes a gigantic cry thread about how mining barges should have 8 racks of missiles and battleship isn't really allowed to tell anyone else that they're making "rage posts". In fact, I would argue that your wild emoting and continued denial is the true sign of someone raging out.

We all (the gankers and such) can do as we please, we demonstrate that every day.

Meanwhile, you don't even log in. /golfclap


My Wallet disagrees with your assumption that I have not logged in.

You are such a silly Bear
Kyperion
#308 - 2014-03-18 14:32:19 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Meanwhile, you don't even log in.
Something that is easily verifiable on a per character basis btw

Posting from the ingame browser while the guy who accuses me of not logging in is not logged in.... PRICELESS


Have more BearBearBearBearBearBearBear
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#309 - 2014-03-18 14:40:35 UTC
Kyperion wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Meanwhile, you don't even log in.
Something that is easily verifiable on a per character basis btw

Posting from the ingame browser while the guy who accuses me of not logging in is not logged in.... PRICELESS


Have more BearBearBearBearBearBearBear


I have 5 active accounts, which is well known around here. Try again.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Danalee
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#310 - 2014-03-18 14:44:32 UTC
Kyperion wrote:
You are such a silly Bear
Have more BearBearBearBearBearBearBear
I'm not mad BearBearBear
BearBearBear NOT CRYING BearBearBear
Heehee, I logged in an alt BearBearBearBearBearBearBearBearBearBear


BLOODY HELL WHY?!
You've ruined it for me, hope you are happy Evil

Can't fathom how I can regain my title of worst poster ever on the internet ever, now....
Much thinking needs to be done. You carry on and be that guy.
^^ These are the only tears you managed to harvest in this and other threads ever, hope you are happy.


D. OUT.

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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#311 - 2014-03-18 14:45:57 UTC  |  Edited by: March rabbit
loyalanon wrote:
Now correct me if I am wrong, but every ship in the game, besides concord, npc rats, faction police, customs officials etc is another player, and therefor ganking another player, defenceless or not is PVP.

you are only half right here.

Yes, you attacked player, so from your side it is PvP
Nope, miner you have killed could have the same attack and loss from NPC made by CCP. So miner can see it as pure PvE: "i went to belt, targeted asteroid, started las0rs, went AFK, returned to find myself in a cloning facility. I don't care what killed me. Need new ship".

However back to your side.
Attacking untanked afk miners you have task: you need to apply X amount of damage before your ship is blown up by CONCORD. From this side you do pure PvE. You have no player interaction at all.

So if we speak about suicide ganking of AFK miner we easily can speak about PvE on both sides.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Kyperion
#312 - 2014-03-18 15:24:48 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
loyalanon wrote:
Now correct me if I am wrong, but every ship in the game, besides concord, npc rats, faction police, customs officials etc is another player, and therefor ganking another player, defenceless or not is PVP.

you are only half right here.

Yes, you attacked player, so from your side it is PvP
Nope, miner you have killed could have the same attack and loss from NPC made by CCP. So miner can see it as pure PvE: "i went to belt, targeted asteroid, started las0rs, went AFK, returned to find myself in cloning facility. I don't care what did kill me. Need new ship".

However back to your side.
Attacking untanked afk miners you have task: you need to apply X amount of damage before your ship is blown up by CONCORD. From this side you do pure PvE. You have no player interaction at all.

So if we speak about suicide ganking of AFK miner we easily can speak about PvE on both sides.


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Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#313 - 2014-03-18 15:50:20 UTC
I have been online for the past 2 hours. You have not logged in once.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#314 - 2014-03-18 16:27:10 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
I have been online for the past 2 hours. You have not logged in once.

i dunno who you are talking to....

i'm in Office doing my RL job at the moment. Can be online in 3 hours if it matters

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#315 - 2014-03-18 16:36:58 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
I have been online for the past 2 hours. You have not logged in once.

i dunno who you are talking to....

i'm in Office doing my RL job at the moment. Can be online in 3 hours if it matters


He's talking to Kyperion, who has avoided logging in for the last few days to try and deter Kane from wardeccing him. My guess is that he is only logging in for long enough to set his skills.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#316 - 2014-03-18 17:31:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Alyth Nerun
March rabbit wrote:

Attacking untanked afk miners you have task: you need to apply X amount of damage before your ship is blown up by CONCORD. From this side you do pure PvE. You have no player interaction at all.

I don't see how this is Player versus Environment when clearly the removal of an illegal AFK bot-aspirant miner is an improvement of the environment. If anything we safe the environment.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
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ISD Alliance
#317 - 2014-03-18 19:19:51 UTC
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