EVE General Discussion

Well it easy to troll my intellectual weaknesses so you won there i'll give you that

You are also missing the point, since it is not compared to real life but rather to income in EVE.
How can you say that there is no profit in EVE when the whole point of being a trader is to make profit?
Your logic is flawed and erroneous, unscientific and amateurish at best.

You are missing the point again and refer to real life and playing.
You then refer to pain, and virtual fire which is in no way related to virtual reality.

You're really exagerating.

I don't doubt that you make equally inaccurate deductions as you suggest to incite mentally troubling and claim it.

Your insistence on arguing about not calculating costs in relation to profit is proof of your interference against business.
In fact, you propose to add to those costs by not including your comments or psychological attacks in those costs.

What does your your law firm owner have to do with costs, whether ingame costs or other and ingame income?
http://moneyweek.com/glossary/cost-income-ratio/

I don't need the institution name, which use this cost-income-ratio as part of their accounting.
That information being confidential as it should have remained, while you tried to spill or leak it.


Perhaps the term 'real Ingame Profit.' used in the title made you feel bad?
It looks more like rumor mongering the way you approach it.

Real Ingame Profit is meant in the sense of actual and factual and exact profit, whether negative or positive.
Positive and Negative Expressions are common terms in business.

I don't have to give you an IBM CoBOL algorithm to validate or rightly justify the value of the subject or for insurance purposes.

If you prefer to create business systems based on your terms and under your controls or lack of control while manipulated...
I won't be liable.

I didn't have the time to reply yesterday, and had to update 19+ skills in my skill queue.
I had 1 hr 20 mins though, and answering this thread during my EVE Online ingame time takes away that time.

I won't be able to reply during my updating for a while.
I was suggested not to reply to those posting in my threads (since it made me loose my time in vain).

If I remember correctly, I ended up replying in Private Messages rather than publicly posting.
It was more private, secretive, confidential and less public.
If there was any embarrassing details, they were easier to deal with that way.
That thread had no replies until the Price Check, Bazaar link was posted.


I'm lucky to be able to reply for free from elsewhere and I don't know how long this will last.

Note:
Also, if you do trade on the Character Bazaar, you still need a valid active EVE Online account to transact.
You can't do anything but speculation and can't post on the forums if your accounts are inactive.



I find it more enjoyable and profitable when the profit is positive.
Income - Costs = Profit.

If the costs are higher than the income, then the profit is negative and therefore a loss.

I understand that the profit can be related to different persons or groups.


I find it less enjoyable when posters who try to scam me lie to me.
When they tell me that I shouldn't be worried about it and have fun.
As if it was crazy to keep track of losses and to avoid planning recovery.
(So they can make more profit really, even if and when covertly so.
It is not much of a secret really, and more than obvious in fact.)

In
Profit (accounting)
from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profit_(accounting)
Gross profit equals sales revenue minus cost of goods sold
[(Gross) profit equals (=) (sales) revenue minus (-) cost (of goods sold)]

I do exactly the same calculation except for 2 or 3 parts:
1.
I substitute "sales revenue" for income.
That income can be in the form of value of PLEx, income from mining, sales of loot, etc...
There are a few other details here but nothing much, such as ingame income.

2.
I substitute "costs of goods sold" for costs.
Those costs include the ingame costs and other related costs.
It is also useful to keep track of the potential profit and how to avoid more useless losses.
Please note that many players not only post here to make more, but suggest it is useless.
Some make over tens of thousand worth really.

3.
I substitute "Gross profit" for real Ingame Profit.
That is also meant in the sense of the actual numerical amount of profit , positive or negative.
That it is in relation to costs and income.
That the number will most likely be different to a certain extent or magnitude than the suggested value by many.

That the suggested value may refer more directly to the number related to CCP's share.
It's obvious to me that if I paid $10,000 or $20,000 worth in donation towards PLEX for Good it could matter.
That numerical amount value could also be PLEX from income and profit rather than Costs.
It can also be from Costs.

is the Doc still alive , havnt seen him in a while

Hello, I would like to post in this thread too.

I wrote a long post but didn't publish it yet.

I found that Character Bazaar trading will be more cost-efficient for me until that I have more time.


That also bypasses all other requirements for learning and speeds up my work.


edit:
As for some of the reasons behind, it is partly to avoid being unable to do anything if you can't buy PLEX.
It may be possible to cause a very large amount of damage even to a Solo player depending.

The ratio is way beyond a 50-50 random coin flip ratio. 1 to 1,268 is not a thick chance of winning.
Definitely not a zero-sum odds.


That's all I will add for now, until that I update the rest of that post on here or another site.

And character Bazaar trading is as boring as hell.

I don't see the point in this thread, unless you are doing some kind of cost/profit analysis for RMT, which you state that you are not, so what is the point in this thread....

Eve is a game which is about having fun. Why would you play the game simply to make imaginary isk??

Have your 11000th like for that one.

OW! MY BRAIN!