Intergalactic Summit

Oh look, it's another "take a giant **** all over Minmatar research corporations with pretty much no reasonable justification" thread.

You don't think that information from breakthroughs are deliverable?

A research and development firm can only profit when it takes a concept from prototype to product, and then competes effectively on the market with said product. I can't deny that Boundless Creations has a variety of advanced-technology ship designs on the market, but there isn't anything revolutionary about any of their designs. They're decently engineered combat ships. The Muninn sees a fair use, sure, but beyond that...? You're more likely to see Core Complexion designs in specialist roles, for instance.

So.

As it stands, I think of Boundless Creation as a fairly unremarkable weapons manufacturing firm, which still needs to demonstrate that it can take an advanced technology concept and bring it to the market in a way that up-ends said market.

Right now, we have an instance of commendable miniaturization, and a promise that this technology has many civilian and military applications.

Very nice.

Now, show me the products and bring them to market in a way that makes me go, "Without Boundless Creation, I could not have done this," whatever this is.

Fred, businesses don't operate as a charity; I'd expect this of neither Boundless Creation nor Ishukone Okusaika. Neither of us should negotiate a deal unless we both have something to gain from it. Yes, then, profit is my motive. But it should also be the Matari motive.

Further, it's not enough to have prototypes; one must be able to then develop them. Otherwise, you're generating intellectual property that molders in a database somewhere. Research and development, done properly, is resource-intensive; unless it generates products and thus profits, it can be a tremendous drain on one's ledgers.

That said, consult the Galnet brief for a discussion of the corporation's history.

Maker. Yes. Obviously there's lead-time. Cairi, consult the link above and get back to me.

And yet it's not the Matari motive. I don't speak for Boundless Creation, but they don't have much to gain at all from a partnership with Ishukone. You're going to take that gravity well, tweak it a little bit just so you can say it's your own creation, and then sell it while Boundless Creation gets an almost insignificant royalty if they're lucky. That said, even if Boundless Creation does need a business partner, it shouldn't be a partner that thinks so lowly of their abilities.

Again, what are you talking about? Boundless Creation has an impressive line of ships and subsystems. I'm flying a Claw through null as we speak and it just saved me from a nasty gatecamp.

The page you refer to happens to be the page I am referring to as well. It clearly states they are a profitable and successful company despite their youth. A few setbacks when a company is just getting started (especially when they are in a highly competitive) industry shouldn't be permanent scar on their history.

Alright I think I'm starting to understand what you are talking about. Thank you for clarifying. Hopefully they will "change the game" with this new gravity well of theirs.

Oh c'est la vie! It can happen even to the best of us!

I don't think it's accurate to attribute capsule technology to the Caldari. It was given to them to use; any other R&D corp could have done the same with the nearly completed tech that falls in their lap.

Regarding Boundless-they have never been extraordinary but perhaps that is soon to change. There are many possibilities for these generators and I hope the empires are the first to develop it and related technologies. If that means a joint project then so what? I'd hate to see Nation get ahead of us again because of childish pride.

-Eran

To Alica Wildfire

I said that only because of that Arekjaalan project, that I knew that this traitor scientist defected to the Republic, and minmatars are good only in stealing stuff. It might be not Caldari, I don't really know. But I don't believe that peoples, who run around with naked bodies, allow underage children to have sexual relations and bring up their own children, and who still use ancient chemical propelled weaponry for combat, are able to develop something complex as that.

And no, it's not mine. I am sorry.

So, was talking about our "parking problem"?...
At least we don't have slavery problem. You know, why Caldari of all major empires (like Minmatar, Amarr, and even Gallente, yes yes, Gallente were slavers and slaves too!) never developed slavery? Because for Caldari becoming a slave to whom they lost is a disgrace, and Caldari prefer death to it. Your people were destined to be slaves. You aren't warriors, you aren't soldiers. You are servants. The only good minmatar warriors are Kameiras, and only because the Empire train them.

Your second problem is your desire to fight for freedom. Freedom is a gallentean ideal, of peoples to be able anything they want without consequences. Because, you know, there are always options to do things, even as a slave, so you are always "free" to do what you want. What is different, is consequences of your actions. If you get freedom - you have no consequences.

But do you know, what is a real desire of a slave? No, it isn't "freedom" or something like that. Lets get rid of this gallentean nonsence and look at life of the slave. They work all their life to their master, and their master, as a human, becomes their ideal. Yes. The real desire of those, brought up as slaves, is to become masters and have their own slaves. This is why Minmatars are attacking the Empire, who was peaceful to them: to get revenge... and to enslave them. Of course, they won't say it. But in case they will win the war, if they defeat the Empire completely, and get ultimate power in the region, they will enslave amarr.

Luckily, this will never happen, because Republic has very low population, compared to the Empire, and Republic is still using ancient combat platforms. No, there is really not a slight chance for Republic to win, and the Empire can crush your little rebellion any time they would choose to do this. So, be grateful to them and pray each day to Amarr God for they won't turn all their might on you.

As for using gravity wells for sex... Well, if your body is too weak and is unable to participate in natural reproduction process without using of gravity well, you could buy Caldari technology (I hope you can afford it as a capsuleer), to breed some Tube Childs for you, without engaging in painful procedures yourself.

And yea, naked bodies aren't harm. But it is unprofessional and inappropriate. By showing some places you provoke association with bodily functions, that general public prefer to not to think about. Because it is simply disgusting. We are not animals, and we have proper dress codes, we have dignity, we have uniforms. And you?