These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Crime & Punishment

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Help Goblin Defeat Goons by Giving Him Trillions

First post First post
Author
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#141 - 2014-03-18 02:44:26 UTC
So, has anyone actually spoken with both Mittens and Gevlon at once in comms? I could totally see Gevlon as unique personality #3 for entertainment. Nobody makes this many mistakes in rapid succession. It feels scripted, though still enjoyable.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#142 - 2014-03-18 02:50:11 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Nobody makes this many mistakes in rapid succession.


lots of people do, the grand scale of the mistakes is what makes him unique

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

Professor Clio
Apocalypse Lancers
#143 - 2014-03-18 02:52:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Professor Clio
Kyperion wrote:



So you are scared of the goons then, and admit you do not have the capacity to win against them.

Therefore goon pet award goes to RvB


Try and at least be original in your trolling. There's a difference between having a healthy respect for the capabilities of the most powerful group in eve and being their slave. I like the goons, and they like RvB. We have a mutually beneficial relationship. If you're too dumb to see that, it's your own failing.

If they ever came for me and mine I'd give them a hell of a fight, hell, I'm even arrogant enough to think I might beat them but I ain't about to go looking for that fight. Plus RvB and goons are both too smart to let that happen.

watching gevlon helplessly flail about like a frustrated 2 year old has been incredibly amusing. Now that he's been told off by his own employees (how many times has this happened now?) I feel even more sure I made the right choice
Kyperion
#144 - 2014-03-18 03:11:34 UTC
Professor Clio wrote:
Kyperion wrote:



So you are scared of the goons then, and admit you do not have the capacity to win against them.

Therefore goon pet award goes to RvB


Try and at least be original in your trolling. There's a difference between having a healthy respect for the capabilities of the most powerful group in eve and being their slave. I like the goons, and they like RvB. We have a mutually beneficial relationship. If you're too dumb to see that, it's your own failing.

If they ever came for me and mine I'd give them a hell of a fight, hell, I'm even arrogant enough to think I might beat them but I ain't about to go looking for that fight. Plus RvB and goons are both too smart to let that happen.

watching gevlon helplessly flail about like a frustrated 2 year old has been incredibly amusing. Now that he's been told off by his own employees (how many times has this happened now?) I feel even more sure I made the right choice


Well, as an independent party, and general despiser of goons, I figured I'd see if you would take the bait Smile

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#145 - 2014-03-18 08:08:00 UTC
Professor Clio wrote:
I'll make a bold prediction, before the month is up Gevlon will stop funding marmite, cancel his noir contract but still claim victory.
It begins. He's terminated his official tie to Lemmings now, and will pay the for tasks rather than funding them directly.. They are just Marmite's alt corp now. Since Marmite's claim to fame is being the most ridiculed of all the merc corps that amuses me somewhat.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.

Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#146 - 2014-03-18 08:14:25 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
So, has anyone actually spoken with both Mittens and Gevlon at once in comms? I could totally see Gevlon as unique personality #3 for entertainment. Nobody makes this many mistakes in rapid succession. It feels scripted, though still enjoyable.


nah, Gevlon the entity was known and public prior to even joining EVE.

Ultimately he has a luxury few other people have (and one which is often not really afforded even to the Mittani), which is literally to try every possible strategy rather than showing any particular strategic selection process in avoiding sub optimal and very expensive strategies. (ie the most effective strategy is to reroute poco customers to pcoos that are unlikely to be taken by goons or rvb any time soon), but instead we see him simply choosing to rent another expensive gold plated hammer.

I'm sure he is enjoying EVE far more, because being able to trade up large amounts of resources and then _use_ them for something is very different to most games especially WoW.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#147 - 2014-03-18 08:32:58 UTC
Tauranon wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
So, has anyone actually spoken with both Mittens and Gevlon at once in comms? I could totally see Gevlon as unique personality #3 for entertainment. Nobody makes this many mistakes in rapid succession. It feels scripted, though still enjoyable.


nah, Gevlon the entity was known and public prior to even joining EVE.

Ultimately he has a luxury few other people have (and one which is often not really afforded even to the Mittani), which is literally to try every possible strategy rather than showing any particular strategic selection process in avoiding sub optimal and very expensive strategies. (ie the most effective strategy is to reroute poco customers to pcoos that are unlikely to be taken by goons or rvb any time soon), but instead we see him simply choosing to rent another expensive gold plated hammer.

I'm sure he is enjoying EVE far more, because being able to trade up large amounts of resources and then _use_ them for something is very different to most games especially WoW.
The thing is, he wants to be known as someone who made a profound difference. He doesn't even seem to care what that difference is, he just wants to have done it and be respected by the community. But he has no idea how to actually work up a strategy so he continues to try out every dumb idea that pops into his head. And even if he stumbled on a working one, he wants instant results. He wants to put in nearly no effort and immediately see his name in lights. It's just not realistic.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.

Garven Dreis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#148 - 2014-03-18 10:50:52 UTC
I heard a rumour that Gevlon Goblin got scammed out of an alliance, any truth to that? Now's it's a ~high sec~ mercenary alliance with an anti-goon bias.

Terrible Poster Runner-up 2014

Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#149 - 2014-03-18 12:56:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Luwc
ShockedLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLolLol

I surrender and turn down my evil goon overlords.

PLS DONT SHOOT ME HIGH SEC PUB... EH PEOPLES

http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif

Isabela Valentine
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#150 - 2014-03-18 13:24:06 UTC
I wouldn't say that RvB are goon pets. Both Goons and RvB have their strengths and weaknesses and their alliance benefits them both.

P.S. Goons, are you bros planning to do a Burn Jita 3.0?
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#151 - 2014-03-18 13:45:53 UTC
Charles Case wrote:
Wait, why is he crying?

maybe he lost his bling ship?

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#152 - 2014-03-18 14:12:22 UTC
Garven Dreis wrote:
I heard a rumour that Gevlon Goblin got scammed out of an alliance, any truth to that? Now's it's a ~high sec~ mercenary alliance with an anti-goon bias.
True story bro.

Apparently it isn't a "Marmite 2" alliance, even though it operates in exactly the same way no besides recruitment. Apparently if General Lemming wanted a 2nd Marmite corp, he would just merge everyone into Marmite, thou with how incredibly precious their efficiency is to them, I'd very much doubt that.

The long and short of it though is that Lemmings is now the Marmite noobie corp that allows lower efficiency. Once you show you can camp Jita and dock fast enough when in trouble you'll get moved to Marmite. Both corps will continue to be mercenaries to the same extent that Marmite currently does (so none, since nobody in their right mind considers Marmite's an actual merc corp), and they will both shoot goons (as they have done for years). Gevlon will be some, but less of their war bills (as reality and his weird method of working out his profit margins seem to be conflicting and the donations aren't pouring in like he expected).

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#153 - 2014-03-18 14:27:32 UTC
Would this be a good time to post the January evemail I got from Gevlon offering to support me if I betrayed General Lemming?

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#154 - 2014-03-18 16:40:58 UTC
gotta hand it to gevlon, he came up with a new and exciting way of saying "i failed" without admitting personal failure

instead of other people having failed him through no fault of his own, his failure is actually not a failure!

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#155 - 2014-03-18 17:11:01 UTC
Even though he carefully made clear early on that he can never fail due to his wizardry of shifting blame and accolades, and even though this appears on the surface to be a failure of epic proportions, I disagree.

No, instead this is a marvel of how far his project has come in such a short period of time. It took TEST much longer to mature into adulthood. Like TEST leaving the nest and holding Fountain for as long as they wanted to, I predict Gevlon's project will now blossom and achieve wild success.

The only way this can fail is if Gevlon and friends decide to give up. I look forward to many more weeks, I mean um years, of glorious battle reports until victory. I must ask this though... please let Harry Forever plant the victory flag in VFK.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Twenty Five Percent
Doomheim
#156 - 2014-03-18 18:46:36 UTC
So now that gevlon has divorced himself from the failure of darwins lemmings and marmite what is the next step?
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#157 - 2014-03-18 19:09:10 UTC
Twenty Five Percent wrote:
So now that gevlon has divorced himself from the failure of darwins lemmings and marmite what is the next step?


More blog posts with more nasty surprises. And since he will have more time on his hands to make isk, more isk will transfer out of Gevlon's wallet.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Twenty Five Percent
Doomheim
#158 - 2014-03-18 19:16:15 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Twenty Five Percent wrote:
So now that gevlon has divorced himself from the failure of darwins lemmings and marmite what is the next step?


More blog posts with more nasty surprises. And since he will have more time on his hands to make isk, more isk will transfer out of Gevlon's wallet.


But the question remains: does one man have enough isk to affect the gameplay (defeat) of 18,000 real people? I believe the presentation by Sion at EVE Down Under put the CFC numbers at around 18k real people and 36k characters.

Can one man defeat so many in a video game? And should he be able to?

Or is he just a laughing stock and delusional?
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#159 - 2014-03-18 19:44:23 UTC
We cannot know the answer to that until he has invested all of his in game wealth.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#160 - 2014-03-19 03:36:44 UTC
Twenty Five Percent wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Twenty Five Percent wrote:
So now that gevlon has divorced himself from the failure of darwins lemmings and marmite what is the next step?


More blog posts with more nasty surprises. And since he will have more time on his hands to make isk, more isk will transfer out of Gevlon's wallet.


But the question remains: does one man have enough isk to affect the gameplay (defeat) of 18,000 real people? I believe the presentation by Sion at EVE Down Under put the CFC numbers at around 18k real people and 36k characters.

Can one man defeat so many in a video game? And should he be able to?

Or is he just a laughing stock and delusional?


The premise of your questions is that one man can, through the application of his isk, bring about the defeat of a group of arbitrary size. Supposing that is true, it is then reasonable to conclude that the opposite is true - that in the very narrowest of cases, another individual could utilize his own isk to block or prevent the defeat of that same group.

In that case, Gevlon's goal is clearly doomed, as I alone am several times wealthier than him. So are my fellow directors of finance. So are many other goons, and the number at least as wealthy as him is even larger still. Blink

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal