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Goe Rilla
Quantum Force Inc.
DammFam
#41 - 2014-03-15 20:09:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Goe Rilla
Eiwol Ressiv wrote:
ist easy to kill a blaster inc in a breacher , both nice 7,5 rep bonus , but breacher easy to kite 7 a 8 clicks with web.

Also if you flew a blaster boat , i always look at oppentent ship wich tuuret he haz , easy to check if its kiteable

im sorry , but max skill point maybe helps with 30% of fights , other 70% is brains.

i always laugh at post saying in eve its just click point and w8 till fight is over , those ppl say that are the noobs who will loose even with max skills



Kiting a breacher at 7 to 8k ?

Ive already tried it with a 125mm rail fit, and died just as well as the blaster fit.

Because rockets can and will hit that far for the same dps almost, and so do missiles, and to make rails viable, you need to fit a magstab, losing on the dual rep tank, making you a paperthin rail frigate with an equal dps output to your enemy, and who could already outtank your best dps output using blasters, void, mods and implants...

And also with a 125mm fit (ie one with at least some tank), Inc powergrid cant allow to fit a disruptor to maintain your target "in case" you win, so you're stuck to juggling with a scrambler between ranges that dont matter anyway, since like i said, rockets hit that far.

But yea, ill convo your main and you can show me a few things i may not already know about.
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2014-03-16 12:47:24 UTC
Goe Rilla wrote:
Let me just insight you guys on something that shows why this game's mechanics are broken at the very core and that you're all deluding yourselves to this this is a perfectly good and balanced game design, which a lot of you pay real money for, or your personal time with. Truth of the matter is, it's not.

I just ended a 1v1 close combat brawl fight against a Breacher frigate, from which i lost by a long shot.

I was in a dual web, dual rep Neutron blaster void Incursus, and had a 5% hybrid damage implant on.

All my gunnery, armor skills are MAXED to lvl 5.

You name it, technically you come within 1000m of me and your face melts, with a 240-250 dps frigate, and a decent enough tank at 250 rep per cycle, ie how a void blastercursus is meant to be used.

I also made sure my rigs were full to **** with capacitor memory cells to compensate the dual rep capdrain and survive the melting process long enough to win against another highdps frigate.

AND guess what ? Well the breacher won of course, in a brawling 500m fight against a maxed out void blasterboat.

Why ?

Because all he had to do was to pull a rock on me, IE:

Fit his shield defenses to thermal, stick a couple shield boosters in there, still maintaining his web and scram slots, maybe add a magstab or coupled with a damage mod, a shield mod and/or a cap mod, some rockets or missiles, and he's good to go !! Effortlessly outcapping and ganking the, 3x cap mod, dual repped, maxed out void blaster Incursus....

I used to think skill levels not to matter so much, but now I see that training mine for so long for such results really didnt matter so much in the end anyway, yea, they really don't matter until you know exactly for which modules and ships to train them for.

And thats why I will biomass this crap, or find some other means to make up for my spent money/time on this game.

A game that forces me to try another ship or another module type because of bad design and bad balancing, AFTER TEN YEARS DEVELOPMENT, is a game that shouldn't be here, nor that we should be paying money for.


You lost a T1 frigate and are now blaming the game and ragequiting?

Lol, better sooner than later I guess.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#43 - 2014-03-16 13:00:00 UTC
Goe Rilla wrote:
A game that forces me to try another ship or another module type because of bad design and bad balancing, AFTER TEN YEARS DEVELOPMENT, is a game that shouldn't be here, nor that we should be paying money for.

So what's the bad design and bad balancing in being able to fit your ship for a purpose and being able to outfly your opponent?

Divine Entervention wrote:
I agree. EvE isn't really "player skill" based.
The OP proves otherwise, so what is it you're agreeing with? Also, isn't it funny how you once again find yourself expressing a favourable attitude towards someone who wants to bring real-life harm to people over a game?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#44 - 2014-03-16 13:17:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Tippia wrote:
Goe Rilla wrote:
A game that forces me to try another ship or another module type because of bad design and bad balancing, AFTER TEN YEARS DEVELOPMENT, is a game that shouldn't be here, nor that we should be paying money for.

So what's the bad design and bad balancing in being able to fit your ship for a purpose and being able to outfly your opponent?

Divine Entervention wrote:
I agree. EvE isn't really "player skill" based.
The OP proves otherwise, so what is it you're agreeing with? Also, isn't it funny how you once again find yourself expressing a favourable attitude towards someone who wants to bring real-life harm to people over a game?


But... but he's a morally superior being, you should know this, he's told all of us often enough P

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stoicfaux
#45 - 2014-03-16 14:52:45 UTC
Tears beat paper.

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EvEa Deva
Doomheim
#46 - 2014-03-16 14:55:53 UTC
Didn't click the OPs link did some cyno in 100 papers to kill a rock ?
kes88
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2014-03-16 17:49:54 UTC
Lock please.
Marsha Mallow
#48 - 2014-03-16 17:51:36 UTC
OP wins the fruitcake award for the day. Where the hell are you all coming from, did an asylum shut down somewhere or something? Loses frigate > hopes CCP all freeze to death and contemplates blowing up servers/driving the company out of business. It's probably for the best you get permabanned now, it's for your own good. God knows what you'd be like once you lose a battleship. Fingers crossed CCP take this superseriously and call the authorities.

KNOCK KNOCK.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Marsha Mallow
#49 - 2014-03-16 22:53:41 UTC
If they don't ban you, on the plus side we can torment you forever with our filthy little mouths and wiggly didgits.
Let's try it like this, I'll go first
- But it's not faaaaaaair
- Only a frigate, stfu you ****
- Ye but, THE GAME IS BROKEN BECAUSE, well OK i died like a fool
- Yes, you should be mad
- wat
YOUR MOVE

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Goe Rilla
Quantum Force Inc.
DammFam
#50 - 2014-03-16 22:55:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Goe Rilla
I posted detailed material concerning the fight I was in, if you wish to discuss this in more detail, go ahead, or PM me ingame and we'll take a look.

For now Im done with the raging. Kthx
Marsha Mallow
#51 - 2014-03-16 23:02:42 UTC
I thought the breacher was a mining ship tbh. I'd scream too if one killed me.

But anyway, why are you still talking. I'm not happy that they are allowing this, after you made rl death threats. I've put real effort into my fruitloop status ingame. It's like you are trying to compete or something. Get out.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Marsha Mallow
#52 - 2014-03-16 23:06:18 UTC
biiiiiimbo Twisted

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Goe Rilla
Quantum Force Inc.
DammFam
#53 - 2014-03-16 23:07:01 UTC
Some random screaming loser on an internet spaceship game forum, making so many fruity heads turn...

Eh ?
Marsha Mallow
#54 - 2014-03-16 23:36:48 UTC
Shurrup you silly ****. This thread will be locked anyway. Nobody ******* cares about you, your frigates, or your opinion. We can only be nice so long before the urge to blow your ******* head off outweighs any sort of dialogue.

ISDs can gag me and I'll do my best to enjoy it. ♥ Ezwal is my hero

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Goe Rilla
Quantum Force Inc.
DammFam
#55 - 2014-03-17 16:31:11 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Shurrup you silly ****. This thread will be locked anyway. Nobody ******* cares about you, your frigates, or your opinion. We can only be nice so long before the urge to blow your ******* head off outweighs any sort of dialogue.

ISDs can gag me and I'll do my best to enjoy it. ♥ Ezwal is my hero


Is that a RL threat you just made ?
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2014-03-17 18:03:19 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
I agree. EvE isn't really "player skill" based.

If that is what you took away from the gif, I recommend looking up the concept of yomi. http://www.sirlin.net/articles/yomi-layer-3-knowing-the-mind-of-the-opponent.html

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Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2014-03-18 03:34:21 UTC
I'm that guy who uses rock.

Every time.

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Pew Terror
All of it
#58 - 2014-03-18 03:45:02 UTC
Confirming OP is wrong.

Also: Every EvE video ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF-SujX-ghc
Count of MonteCylon
Anti-Pirate Enforcement
#59 - 2014-03-18 04:53:37 UTC
I hope CCP comes up with some kind of real, on-demand PvP mechanic, otherwise Star Citizen is going to smash it.

This is like paper rock scissors except you have to wait 3 hours before showing your hand, and then when you do, the other guy might walk away instead of showing you his.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. -- Ephesians 6:12
Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#60 - 2014-03-18 09:29:58 UTC
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how else should it be

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