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Help Goblin Defeat Goons by Giving Him Trillions

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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#121 - 2014-03-16 13:33:42 UTC
Clio Fenatti wrote:
anyone else here thinks Goblin might actually be a genius for possibly creating one of the biggest scams in EVE?


Nope, unfortunately hes serious. He is however creating content and for that he should be applauded.
Never a dull moment for his loyal blog followers! Oh and grats Lucas Kell. He unblocked you? *rushes out to get more popcorn*

Will gank for food
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#122 - 2014-03-16 21:35:17 UTC
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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#123 - 2014-03-16 22:30:13 UTC
Clio Fenatti wrote:
anyone else here thinks Goblin might actually be a genius for possibly creating one of the biggest scams in EVE?
Doubtful. I think he genuinely believe that the things he says are revolutionary and that goons will be detroyed by his terribad propaganda. It's what happens when you take someone that's not very bright but incredibly impressionable, have him gather some knowledge basic mechanics, expose him to some of the worst smacktalk in the game. He has a lot of rage, but no ability to actually formulate a reasonable strategy. Add onto that the impatience that leads him to believe that he can be winning on day 1, and the absolute refusal for him to believe anything he is saying or doing can be wrong, and you wind up with the result we see.

Tarojan wrote:
Nope, unfortunately hes serious. He is however creating content and for that he should be applauded.
Never a dull moment for his loyal blog followers! Oh and grats Lucas Kell. He unblocked you? *rushes out to get more popcorn*
He didn't actually block me, he just moderates out half my comments, usually to try to push the chat into looking like he retorted and I left. Any time he hasn't got a way to say "oh no but *reams of unconnected facts and gibberish*" he moderates out the comments. So I just stopped posting. That's why I like these threads, since they allow people to have a back and forth with the flow only being controlled by a 3rd party.

I'll still post on his blog from time to time but there's no point arguing with people that stubborn. I'll just let him run with it until he burns out. In the meantime I'll continue to play the game as I always have and been seemingly unaffected while he announces how incredibly destroyed we all are.

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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#124 - 2014-03-17 00:05:25 UTC
Yeah I think he blocks everyone's comments. But I know he reads them. Big smile

He also has me blocked in game. I'll still ask if he's afk in local before ganking him.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Clio Fenatti
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#125 - 2014-03-17 01:31:32 UTC
Tarojan wrote:
Clio Fenatti wrote:
anyone else here thinks Goblin might actually be a genius for possibly creating one of the biggest scams in EVE?


Nope, unfortunately hes serious. He is however creating content and for that he should be applauded.
Never a dull moment for his loyal blog followers! Oh and grats Lucas Kell. He unblocked you? *rushes out to get more popcorn*



Lucas Kell wrote:
Clio Fenatti wrote:
anyone else here thinks Goblin might actually be a genius for possibly creating one of the biggest scams in EVE?
Doubtful. I think he genuinely believe that the things he says are revolutionary and that goons will be detroyed by his terribad propaganda. It's what happens when you take someone that's not very bright but incredibly impressionable, have him gather some knowledge basic mechanics, expose him to some of the worst smacktalk in the game. He has a lot of rage, but no ability to actually formulate a reasonable strategy. Add onto that the impatience that leads him to believe that he can be winning on day 1, and the absolute refusal for him to believe anything he is saying or doing can be wrong, and you wind up with the result we see.



Or that is all part of the scam and he has been very convincing about it.

*shrugs*

tinfoil off
Kyperion
#126 - 2014-03-17 12:15:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Kyperion
Kyperion wrote:
Professor Clio wrote:
For 100B a month, hell for 40B a month I'll get RvB to shoot all the goon pocos.


Then why don't you ask him if he'll pay you that much to do it....?

That's what any sane and nonintimidated mercenary would do.

Be like "Hey buddy your 40B is going to waste attacking us, give us 60B and we'll attack these guys over here"

...or is a vengeful Mittani too scary for you?




.....And the question remains.... Are you mercenaries or pets?Question
Professor Clio
Apocalypse Lancers
#127 - 2014-03-17 13:04:16 UTC
Kyperion wrote:
Kyperion wrote:
Professor Clio wrote:
For 100B a month, hell for 40B a month I'll get RvB to shoot all the goon pocos.


Then why don't you ask him if he'll pay you that much to do it....?

That's what any sane and nonintimidated mercenary would do.

Be like "Hey buddy your 40B is going to waste attacking us, give us 60B and we'll attack these guys over here"

...or is a vengeful Mittani too scary for you?




.....And the question remains.... Are you mercenaries or pets?Question



Neither, actually. Apparently you people don't recognize a joke when you see one so I'll spell it out for you: I was making fun of Gevlon for spending almost 100 billion total for zero actual result.

I'll make a bold prediction, before the month is up Gevlon will stop funding marmite, cancel his noir contract but still claim victory.
Kyperion
#128 - 2014-03-17 13:13:33 UTC
Professor Clio wrote:
Kyperion wrote:
Kyperion wrote:
Professor Clio wrote:
For 100B a month, hell for 40B a month I'll get RvB to shoot all the goon pocos.


Then why don't you ask him if he'll pay you that much to do it....?

That's what any sane and nonintimidated mercenary would do.

Be like "Hey buddy your 40B is going to waste attacking us, give us 60B and we'll attack these guys over here"

...or is a vengeful Mittani too scary for you?




.....And the question remains.... Are you mercenaries or pets?Question



Neither, actually. Apparently you people don't recognize a joke when you see one so I'll spell it out for you: I was making fun of Gevlon for spending almost 100 billion total for zero actual result.

I'll make a bold prediction, before the month is up Gevlon will stop funding marmite, cancel his noir contract but still claim victory.


So why don't you take that almost 100 billion for yourselves and 'create' some content?

Or are you happy thralls to Mittani?
Professor Clio
Apocalypse Lancers
#129 - 2014-03-17 14:12:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Professor Clio
Kyperion wrote:


So why don't you take that almost 100 billion for yourselves and 'create' some content?

Or are you happy thralls to Mittani?



I've actually never talked to or met the mittani though I wouldnt mind having a chat with the man, he seems like a smart dude. I am however, very happy with the situation. I got to kill lots of lemmings (and even, surprisingly, some noir.) and I avoid having to fight a costly war with Goons over POCOs (note that they avoid having to fight one against me too, neither of us wants that). We're sharing the pie because we're the only 2 entities strong enough to fight each other for it. It would be completely irrational for either us or the goons to want to fight each other for a ressource that only brings in about 10B isk a month. We'd lose more than that in the first week of fighting each other.

Let me be clear, I, and all of RvB, including every line member I've talked to, and I talk to a lot of them, are perfectly, 100% happy with our arrangement. What the rest of you think is of no consequence, I have a responsibility to my members and no one else.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#130 - 2014-03-17 15:32:56 UTC
You may have chatted with him in game and just not known. Big smile

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Del DelVechio
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
#131 - 2014-03-17 16:43:37 UTC
Kyperion wrote:
Professor Clio wrote:
Kyperion wrote:
Kyperion wrote:
Professor Clio wrote:
For 100B a month, hell for 40B a month I'll get RvB to shoot all the goon pocos.


Then why don't you ask him if he'll pay you that much to do it....?

That's what any sane and nonintimidated mercenary would do.

Be like "Hey buddy your 40B is going to waste attacking us, give us 60B and we'll attack these guys over here"

...or is a vengeful Mittani too scary for you?




.....And the question remains.... Are you mercenaries or pets?Question



Neither, actually. Apparently you people don't recognize a joke when you see one so I'll spell it out for you: I was making fun of Gevlon for spending almost 100 billion total for zero actual result.

I'll make a bold prediction, before the month is up Gevlon will stop funding marmite, cancel his noir contract but still claim victory.


So why don't you take that almost 100 billion for yourselves and 'create' some content?



Or are you happy thralls to Mittani?


RvB creates content everyday. Just check the killboards. 36k kills YTD. How much have you created lately? Besides regurgitating some Grr Goons tripe you read here...

Del
Edmark I
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#132 - 2014-03-17 16:47:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Edmark I
Professor Clio wrote:
I was making fun of Gevlon for spending almost 100 billion total for zero actual result


But but but the killboards. Hundreds of billions in damage done to the evil goonies! Wardecs and damage on a monthly basis that has been going on since oh... about 2008 or so and will continue to until the servers go dark.

Surely GG is having an impact

Heres a funny story about highsec/mercs/wardecs and pvp. I visited Jita for the first time in a long time a few days ago to cash out some Caldari Navy LP that I got from this wonderful little thing called ESS. So I podded myself to the bottom station where we have an office, updated my clone and warped to 4-4.

I got insta-gibbed by some guy in a Loki. I looked at my killmail and recognized the name. YangShampo or something. He was a member of Darwins Lemmings but the noteworthy thing was: I had been insta-blapped by the exact same guy in a triple sebo 720mm Loki 2 years ago when I first started playing this terrible game.

2 years later. The same guy is still sitting on the Jita undock in a triple sebo Insta-locking Loki popping pods. The point is: the names on corps and alliances change- but the people stay the same. This time they get to do it on Le Goblins dime Smile but they would be there regardless..

I Ibised up and warped back to 4-4, let the bottom feeders feed on my rookie ship mail and then cashed out my LP undocked and they helpfully podded me to my next deployment area in Curse!
Joseph Soprano
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#133 - 2014-03-17 18:30:52 UTC
Edmark I wrote:
Professor Clio wrote:
I was making fun of Gevlon for spending almost 100 billion total for zero actual result


But but but the killboards. Hundreds of billions in damage done to the evil goonies! Wardecs and damage on a monthly basis that has been going on since oh... about 2008 or so and will continue to the servers go dark.

Surely GG is having an impact

Heres a funny story about highsec/mercs/wardecs and pvp. I visited Jita for the first time in a long time a few days ago to cash out some Caldari Navy LP that I got from this wonderful little thing called ESS. So I podded myself to the bottom station where we have an office, updated my clone and warped to 4-4.

I got insta-gibbed by some guy in a Loki. I looked at my killmail and recognized the name. YangShampo or something. He was a member of Darwins Lemmings but the noteworthy thing was: I had been insta-blapped by the exact same guy in a triple sebo 720mm Loki 2 years ago when I first started playing this terrible game.

2 years later. The same guy is still sitting on the jita undock in a triple sebo Insta-locking Loki popping pods. The point is: the names on corps and alliances change- but the people stay the same. This time they get to do it on Le Goblins dime Smile but they would be there regardless..

I Ibised up and warped back to 4-4, let the bottom feeders feed on my rookie ship mail and then cashed out my LP undocked and they helpfully podded me to my next deployment area in Curse!


As you seem to have a bit of cash handy and the Lemmings provided you with a helpful service may I direct you to the Lemmings donation board...
Edmark I
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#134 - 2014-03-17 19:07:02 UTC
Joseph Soprano wrote:
As you seem to have a bit of cash handy and the Lemmings provided you with a helpful service may I direct you to the Lemmings donation board...


Not gonna lie.. it feels pretty good getting paid to pvp. Alas, these wardecs are really putting the hurt on the average line member Roll and I only have 9b liquid, therefore I cannot make a contribution to the lemmings today.
Marseillefrog
Blueprint Mania
#135 - 2014-03-17 19:11:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Marseillefrog
Edmark I wrote:
Professor Clio wrote:
I was making fun of Gevlon for spending almost 100 billion total for zero actual result


But but but the killboards. Hundreds of billions in damage done to the evil goonies! Wardecs and damage on a monthly basis that has been going on since oh... about 2008 or so and will continue to until the servers go dark.

Surely GG is having an impact

Heres a funny story about highsec/mercs/wardecs and pvp. I visited Jita for the first time in a long time a few days ago to cash out some Caldari Navy LP that I got from this wonderful little thing called ESS. So I podded myself to the bottom station where we have an office, updated my clone and warped to 4-4.

I got insta-gibbed by some guy in a Loki. I looked at my killmail and recognized the name. YangShampo or something. He was a member of Darwins Lemmings but the noteworthy thing was: I had been insta-blapped by the exact same guy in a triple sebo 720mm Loki 2 years ago when I first started playing this terrible game.

2 years later. The same guy is still sitting on the Jita undock in a triple sebo Insta-locking Loki popping pods. The point is: the names on corps and alliances change- but the people stay the same. This time they get to do it on Le Goblins dime Smile but they would be there regardless..

I Ibised up and warped back to 4-4, let the bottom feeders feed on my rookie ship mail and then cashed out my LP undocked and they helpfully podded me to my next deployment area in Curse!


What a great story.

That's just crazy that it was the same guy!
Edmark I
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#136 - 2014-03-17 19:22:50 UTC
Marseillefrog wrote:
What a great story.

That's just crazy that it was the same guy!


Heres the original mail from the character I started the game with, I have since purchased and gone through a few different chars before settling on this 70m sp one as my mainfleet combat main.

And heres the one from a couple days ago

2 years of elite highsec pvp
Joseph Soprano
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#137 - 2014-03-17 22:01:39 UTC
Edmark I wrote:
Joseph Soprano wrote:
As you seem to have a bit of cash handy and the Lemmings provided you with a helpful service may I direct you to the Lemmings donation board...


Not gonna lie.. it feels pretty good getting paid to pvp. Alas, these wardecs are really putting the hurt on the average line member Roll and I only have 9b liquid, therefore I cannot make a contribution to the lemmings today.


9billion you say. Well if you ever want to sell a couple your RvB slaves I might be interest?
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#138 - 2014-03-17 23:30:21 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Big Lynx wrote:
Scam failed? Poor gobi goblin

LoL



Its actually his most throught out article yet. People like to see where their money is going. Gelvon is still missing the other point though.

Quote:
"The idea behind the donation drive and the whole direction of the project was that Goonswarm is unanimously hated in highsec, for valid reasons like tribalism (space-racism) and harvesting tears instead of teaching newbies, and for unfair reasons like shooting pixel spaceships in a pixel spaceship shooting game. People fill the forums with Goon hate."


I still haven't seen this. This may have been true five years ago, but its hardly true now. As the largest alliance in the game, its hard to maintain the "bad guy" persona because you are so visible. Most newer players ask "who are the goons?" and are told that they're the largest alliance in the game, not that the goons are a bunch of scammers and trolls. I think you really need to examine what groups are actually "harvesting tears" in high sec Gelvon. Sure there are goons involved, but there are a lot of other alliances too.

EDIT: I meant that I haven't seen a public backlash against the goons recently, not that I haven't seen goons take part in those activities.

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Professor Clio
Apocalypse Lancers
#139 - 2014-03-18 02:35:16 UTC
Leave it to Gevlon to spin having his own pet alliance tell him to take a hike into a victory :)

Props to marmite for taking that chump for that much ISK and getting a training alliance out of it.
Kyperion
#140 - 2014-03-18 02:42:34 UTC
Professor Clio wrote:
Kyperion wrote:


So why don't you take that almost 100 billion for yourselves and 'create' some content?

Or are you happy thralls to Mittani?



I've actually never talked to or met the mittani though I wouldnt mind having a chat with the man, he seems like a smart dude. I am however, very happy with the situation. I got to kill lots of lemmings (and even, surprisingly, some noir.) and I avoid having to fight a costly war with Goons over POCOs (note that they avoid having to fight one against me too, neither of us wants that). We're sharing the pie because we're the only 2 entities strong enough to fight each other for it. It would be completely irrational for either us or the goons to want to fight each other for a ressource that only brings in about 10B isk a month. We'd lose more than that in the first week of fighting each other.

Let me be clear, I, and all of RvB, including every line member I've talked to, and I talk to a lot of them, are perfectly, 100% happy with our arrangement. What the rest of you think is of no consequence, I have a responsibility to my members and no one else.



So you are scared of the goons then, and admit you do not have the capacity to win against them.

Therefore goon pet award goes to RvB