Missions & Complexes

Bummer.





DMC

So... what you're actually saying is that in the 4 months ghost sites have been around, you didn't even do 5 minutes of research into them?

If you had, then you'd know that you fit a buffer tank for ghost sites, not an active tank. Seriously, a cruiser-sized hull with a totally ordinary buffer tank (weighted towards explosive damage) can very easily deal with a ghost site.

On top of that, when you lost your T3 due to your ineptitude, you decided to complain on the forums that these sites are "guaranteed death" when they're not even close.

Good job on looking like a bit of a fool.

I have run them in a standard covops scan ship, and tanked the can explosion, in low, HS and WH. so its possible to do with very low risk.

i can hear CCP devs laughing right now

I find this difficult to believe. Especially the part about WH ghost sites, which can eat T3s alive http://www.tigerears.org/2014/03/09/dying-to-a-ghost/

Unless the covops is very well tanked, it's unlikely to survive the explosions anywhere else either. Please share what must be a really incredible fit.

OP I'm not sure what your issue was. I run them in a T3 and have never had issues with the rats (have not attempted a WH ghost site). They scram and peck and but no more than 10% or so of shields go down. I use a modified version of this: http://jestertrek.blogspot.com/2011/10/bonus-fotw-exploration-tengu.html

your ship wasn't properly tanked for ghost sites, thus you blew up. Its really not a big deal. I don't know what you mean about "the rats" chewing through your armor, but generally they do a tiny amount of damage compared to the explosion. From what I can tell, the rats do a small amount of their "normal" damage types, then you're hit with the can explosions. It is possible to get away from the cans while the rats are shooting you, and thus avoid the explosion.

Doing ghost sites in covops is completely possible, simply going from the number of times I've been able to hack 1 or even 2 cans with my tengu and then cloak before the rats spawn (cuz the other two cans had junk). However if someone can tank the explosions then I want to see that fit, is is possible that the explosion damage is modified by sig radius.

The time spend looking for ghost site compared to what they payout on average for most people, are less then what you make with most other professions.

To be fair all professions don't give equal payouts, and often it's more important to find something that is fun to do, while still keeping your economic at float, then doing something boring that is more profitable. I think this is where most people have a problem with ghost sites, because what you are doing is jumping system to systems and doing local system scans for hours, which if you are lucky results in you finding a sites that takes a couple of minutes to clear.

It boils down to doing the same boring task over and over, where the reward is a few minutes entertainment and less isk then you could have made, playing a part of the game that is actually fun. While ghost sites are very can be very profitable if you just happen to find one by chance, they are really not worth looking for.

I don't do dedicated ghost site hunting anymore, but taking a warpspeed rigged nullified t3 around on hundreds of jumps was kind of nice. Fun, low risk, very little work and effort involved, then maybe 3 minutes of hurried activity, and its back to speeding around. Go afk whenever, zero fucks given about anything, its not bad.



You don't give a troll rating to someone that isn't trolling, and is in fact giving a straight answer/response. lrn2 internet.

While we're all here, can I say that I hate the lore for Ghost sites?

In that Rubicon video there's this angry CONCORD dude. He says there's these things the pirates have cooked up called ghost sites and they're way super dangerous. What are these super dangerous sites doing anyway? They're researching implants that let you warp faster and mobile depots... Scary. At least, that's what we can assume they do from the loot they drop. Fine. That's cool. Whatever.


For the good of New Eden I should go in and blow them up. As a reward for my efforts, I can snag BPCs for warp speed implants and mobile depots. That's chill.

Then angry CONCORD dude says to back off and don't go near them? What the hell? You just said these are super dangerous! Doesn't blowing them up help you guys? Just trying to be helpful and mess with pirate stuff.



From a lore point of view, it seems like a weak way to introduce new content (that I'm indifferent to) and back up the 'no turning back' Rubicon mantra. CCP Seagull said in her vision of the future that the capsuleer's are breaking free of the empire's grasp. We're not. We're doing what we're allowed to within the confines of the game. If I could be more involved with Caldari politics and stuff I would be. The game doesn't allow for it so I can't. Of course people are going to run ghost sites. CONCORD says not to. There's no middle ground. It's poor story telling.

Lets remove all pirate, empire and racial lore, it would clearly make the game a lot better. Maybe it's the short sighted personal opinions, about what eve needs that are irrelevant.