EVE General Discussion

Wasn't there mention of a simple bounty-type system if I recall?

Someone reasonable.

Indeed CCP must take those alloys of the game completely for the sake of mining and people actually playing for this.

On the other hand from what I read there are a few options you guys wil be able to discuss with dev's on the dedicated thread, and those options should very well replace completely your average income at the level of every other nom/rat.

Those options go from bounty pass by specific loot (?) to specific salvage etc, so I think you guys will find some good compromise and mining will finally become something interesting to do at all levels.

I'd personally like the option of bounty+specific loot items/salvage.

Buff to miners!

Great work ! :D

(yeah i'm serious!)

sounds more like a russian plexbot nerf to me

Actually that's another thread, another economy aspect of the game that should be looked at.

Alliances income should come from taxes and individual effort for the corp/alliance you want to be in, not those gazillions and how it stands right now.

So how much did you spend on the bot program that is now useless?

Based on your angry post, I'd say you lost more than you wanted to.

Mr Epeen

Try mining for all those mineral


Slade

Basically, drones need to stop dropping minerals period. Something does need to be given in return though whether it be a bounty system or something else. Otherwise you nerf income for another segment of Eve which is also unacceptable. So give them something back most definitely.

Get rid of the mineral drops from drones and I see this happening:

1. Sudden drop in the volume of minerals available on market.

2. Price of minerals goes up.

3. Miners can't keep up with the current demand to supply minerals for manufacturing but they'll have an income.

4. Leet players will no longer be able to fly a fleet of Mach's (or whatever insanely expensive ship they have) around haphazardly with no fear of losing it because they can easily replace it because the prices of ships will go way up.

5. You start seeing some decent PvP that the 'bears in High Sec might actually be willing to do every now and then. The economy of the game balances out a bit and people realize that not everyone should be flying a faction fit e-peen but instead be a little more practical and round out your fleets.

The number one most important thing is that miners get some sort of income back. This is coming from someone who's tried most aspects of the game and I am by no means in love with mining. It actually makes mining a valuable asset to the PvP players.

It makes 0.0 systems valuable again for something other than just holding the biggest area. You're going to need the mats to produce the carriers to win the war. It also increases the strategic value of stopping those mining operations and the little guy that has no desire to come out and PvP with the big boys might start doing some hit and runs thereby supplying some more PvP.

And maybe, just maybe, it would give some incentive for folks to get active in low sec because they can only get certain mins in those regions.

Literally a few minor tweaks could be made to give reasons to a lot of the things people have complained about for years.

bingo!!!!!! the winning answer here :D

mining should be the mayor source of minerals

bpo should have mats reduced to bring down the prices of ships/mods , imo it should be cheap to go out and blow up ships

remove ice field as well and put them into hidden spawns you have to probe down.

I think the main issue here (not the side issue of minerals) is that doing drone hordes is now worse than before (when they were still worse than sanctums!). Personally, I'd prefer bounties as it's far far more convenient that the following:

Salvage/transport drone alloys

sell drone alloys = ISK, or or refine drone alloys

sell minerals = ISK or build with minerals

sell product (after transporting potentially) = ISK

Bounties are so much easier than dealing with drone alloys, so everyone that wants to complaing about the mining profession do so on another thread instead of complaining about it on a thread about the following changes to hordes:

They're harder to salvage
There is less salvage = less ISK (whatever way you want to look at it)

EDIT: UNTIL THEY REMOVE ALLOYS FROM DRONES ANYONE THAT DOES HORDES HAS A VALID POINT ABOUT THEM BEING NERFED