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I've gone too far.

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Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2014-03-10 23:27:15 UTC
The Connoisseur is and will remain an outstanding human being and I wish him only the best in his new profession.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-03-11 00:35:19 UTC
Best wishes to you Connoisseur. May you find peace of mind in your new profession.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.

Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#23 - 2014-03-11 13:33:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
deeks87 deacon wrote:
OK, so after me earlier post he PM's me in game asking about joining our corp.
So i do the usual interrogation that we do with all new guys and he is so forth coming i actually start to believe he has turned into a new person, EXCEPT! right when i ask him to pay a security deposit he starts to have 2nd thoughts and it's a real shame cause i could almost hear his joy when i was telling him all the new shiny **** we had for him to AWOX.

NB: I even offered to haul all his assets for free to our new HQ :)

I would echo Subsparx on this, there have been far too many people (like Goons recruitment & relocation scams) taking 'security deposits' and shipping containers and walking away with it. Someone is going to have to go on a leap of faith here and give The Connoisseur the second-chance he deserves IMHO.

If I may quote 'The Merchant of Venice' Act IV S I (and redeem something of a misspent education...)...

The quality of mercy is not strained.
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blessed:
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.
'Tis mightiest in the mightiest. It becomes
The thronèd monarch better than his crown.
His scepter shows the force of temporal power,
The attribute to awe and majesty
Wherein doth sit the dread and fear of kings,
But mercy is above this sceptered sway.
It is enthronèd in the hearts of kings.
It is an attribute to God himself.
...
Ammanda Hugginkiss
State War Academy
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-03-11 14:24:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Ammanda Hugginkiss
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:

I would echo Subsparx on this, there have been far too many people (like Goons recruitment & relocation scams) taking 'security deposits' and shipping containers and walking away with it. Someone is going to have to go on a leap of faith here and give The Connoisseur the second-chance he deserves IMHO.
...


The Connoisseur has a self admitted track record of doing some nasty things to corps and its members. If he is legit he should be willing to man up put his money where is mouth is. If he is telling the truth and wants to start over there should be no issue and the collateral will be returned at a later date.
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#25 - 2014-03-11 14:55:58 UTC
Ammanda Hugginkiss wrote:
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:

I would echo Subsparx on this, there have been far too many people (like Goons recruitment & relocation scams) taking 'security deposits' and shipping containers and walking away with it. Someone is going to have to go on a leap of faith here and give The Connoisseur the second-chance he deserves IMHO.
...


The Connoisseur has a self admitted track record of doing some nasty things to corps and its members. If he is legit he should be willing to man up put his money where is mouth is. If he is telling the truth and wants to start over there should be no issue and the collateral will be returned at a later date.


Oh you Shylock! Have you learned nothing of the quality of mercy? Mercy is not mercy with strings attached, its a contract stacked against the repentant seeking it...

I am weeping right now on the state of today's society, quid pro quo now trumps simple decency. Those claiming to be decent, thinly veiled loansharks and thieves themselves. A pox on all their houses I say...

::sadpanda::

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#26 - 2014-03-11 22:55:21 UTC
I see director of PVP operations for a 100 man mining corp in your future. Good luck!

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Ammanda Hugginkiss
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-03-12 00:35:13 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:

Oh you Shylock! Have you learned nothing of the quality of mercy? Mercy is not mercy with strings attached, its a contract stacked against the repentant seeking it...

I am weeping right now on the state of today's society, quid pro quo now trumps simple decency. Those claiming to be decent, thinly veiled loansharks and thieves themselves. A pox on all their houses I say...

::sadpanda::




If your so balls deep for the bloke why do you show some mercy and let him into your corp?
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#28 - 2014-03-12 13:52:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Ammanda Hugginkiss wrote:
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:

Oh you Shylock! Have you learned nothing of the quality of mercy? Mercy is not mercy with strings attached, its a contract stacked against the repentant seeking it...

I am weeping right now on the state of today's society, quid pro quo now trumps simple decency. Those claiming to be decent, thinly veiled loansharks and thieves themselves. A pox on all their houses I say...

::sadpanda::


If your so balls deep for the bloke why do you show some mercy and let him into your corp?

Sadly that would just cause his rehabilitation to regress, for my corp is a training ground for f#ckery and our alliance one of non-consensual combat and mercenary pew.

I am personally just not at the same level of rock-bottom and recovery yet on my transgressions against other capsuleers, as The Connoisseur is. Also, I don't think its good to tempt an alcoholic by giving him a job in a liquor store... (i.e. a pvp alliance). The only way he is going to get beyond this is to settle down in a pve corp or alliance surrounded by 'good' people as a more positive influence IMHO.

Look, if you don't want to give this guy a shot at a second chance, don't. But don't get in the way of his recovery with your negative waves dude.
Ryder 'ook
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-03-12 15:34:44 UTC
Is this how a midlife crisis in EvE lloks like?

- Go, blow up some expensive ships with exotic dancers in them.

That'll help. I promise!

Every atom in our bodies was forged in the furnace of ancient stars - it's time we return home.

Oshia Launay
Galactic Fringe Inc
#30 - 2014-03-12 16:00:48 UTC
This seems an adequate place for some Henry Rollins lyrics:

You think you're going to live your life alone
In darkness and seclusion... yeah, I know
You've been out there and tried to mix with those animals
And it just left you full of humiliated confusion
So you stagger back home and wait for nothing
But the solitary refinement of your room spits you back onto the streets
And now you're desperate and in need of human contact
And then you meet me and your whole world changes
Because everything I say is everything you've ever wanted to hear
So you drop all you defenses, and you drop all your fears
I'm perfect in every way
'Cause I make you feel so strong and so powerfull inside
You feel so lucky
But your ego obscures reality but you never bothered to
Wonder why things are going so well
You want to know why?

'Cause I'm a liar, yeah, I'm a liar
I'll tear your mind out, I'll burn your soul
I'll turn you into me, I'll turn you into me
'Cause I'm a liar, a liar, a liar, a liar, a liar...

I'll hide behind a smile and understanding eyes
And I'll tell you things that you already know so you can say:
I really identify with you, so much
And all the time that you're needing me is just the time
That I'm bleeding you, don't you get it yet?
I'll come to you like an affliction then I'll leave you like an addiction
You'll never forget me... you wanna know why?

'Cause I'm a liar, yeah, I'm a liar,
I'll rip your mind out, I'll burn your soul,
I'll turn you into me, I'll turn you into me,
'Cause I'm a liar, a liar, liar, liar, liar, liar...

I don't know why I feel the need to lie and cause you so much pain
Maybe it's something inside, maybe it's something I can't explain
'Cause all I do is mess you up and lie to you
I'm a liar, ooooh, I'm a liar
But if you'll give me another chance I swear I'll never lie to you again
'Cause now I see the destructive power of a lie,
They're stronger than truth
I can't believe I ever hurt you, I swear I will never lie to you again, please
Just give me one more chance, I'll never lie to you again, no,
I swear, I will never tell a lie, I will never tell a lie, no, no
Ha ha ha ha ha, ho ho ho! Sucker! Sucker! Ooooh sucker!

I am a liar, yeah, I am a liar, yeah, I like it,
I feel good, ooooh I am a liar... yeah
I lie, I lie, I lie, ooh I lie, I lie, yeah,
Oooooh I'm a liar, I lie, yeah, I like it, I feel good,
I'll lie again, and again, I'll lie again and again and I'll keep lying,
I promise... ha ha ha
Subject 4927
DPS INC
Probably Up to No Good
#31 - 2014-03-12 18:30:18 UTC
I wish you only the best my good friend.

http://subjectandfriends.wordpress.com

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#32 - 2014-03-12 20:55:35 UTC
I know how you feel.

I had to give up chess, because slaughtering pawns and bishops started to really get to me.

I mean killing knights is fine, they are PVP pieces, they can fight back, but helpless priests? No more!

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#33 - 2014-03-12 21:09:36 UTC
whats a safari? that sounds fun.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#34 - 2014-03-12 22:13:17 UTC
Batelle wrote:
whats a safari? that sounds fun.


It's when you travel to exotic new locations, meet exciting new people, and then kill them and take their stuff.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Rhatar Khurin
Doomheim
#35 - 2014-03-13 11:09:20 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Batelle wrote:
whats a safari? that sounds fun.


It's when you travel to exotic new locations, meet exciting new people, and then kill them and take their stuff.


What's the difference between AWOXing and Safari'ing though?

I am merely curious.
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#36 - 2014-03-13 12:15:12 UTC
Rhatar Khurin wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Batelle wrote:
whats a safari? that sounds fun.


It's when you travel to exotic new locations, meet exciting new people, and then kill them and take their stuff.


What's the difference between AWOXing and Safari'ing though?

I am merely curious.


Every Safari is an awox, but not every awox is a safari.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#37 - 2014-03-13 16:19:25 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Batelle wrote:
whats a safari? that sounds fun.


It's when you travel to exotic new locations, meet exciting new people, and then kill them and take their stuff.


So its a shiny new name for "deployment."

Okay.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#38 - 2014-03-13 21:00:54 UTC
Rhatar Khurin wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Batelle wrote:
whats a safari? that sounds fun.


It's when you travel to exotic new locations, meet exciting new people, and then kill them and take their stuff.


What's the difference between AWOXing and Safari'ing though?

I am merely curious.



AWOXing historically had a specific meaning that was a subset of what the term is used for now.

It used to be getting spies into 0.0 entities for the sole purpose of getting blue tackle on expensive ships and holding it long enough for others to get the kill.

Now, it's used as a term for any in-corp suprise violence.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Ammanda Hugginkiss
State War Academy
Caldari State
#39 - 2014-03-16 05:30:10 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:

I am personally just not at the same level of rock-bottom and recovery yet on my transgressions against other capsuleers, as The Connoisseur is. Also, I don't think its good to tempt an alcoholic by giving him a job in a liquor store... (i.e. a pvp alliance). The only way he is going to get beyond this is to settle down in a pve corp or alliance surrounded by 'good' people as a more positive influence IMHO.

Look, if you don't want to give this guy a shot at a second chance, don't. But don't get in the way of his recovery with your negative waves dude.


You say you don't want an alcoholic working in a liquor store But you want to surround a "reforming" awoxer with freighters and multibillion isk mission running ships.

I did offer the guy the ability to join my corp however he has as of yet failed to contact me about my offer.
Kyperion
#40 - 2014-03-16 06:14:59 UTC
The Connoisseur wrote:
Listen, I can't continue on like this any further. My time with EVE has been one of toxicity and hurting others. I painfully admit that I am a terrible player who does nothing but awox , safari, steal corps, scam, and lie. This is something that hurts me on the inside, because it isn't truly me as a person. I am even having trouble sleeping at night thinking of all of the people I have lied too, stolen from, and whose ships I have destroyed in the most dishonorable ways imaginable. I am so sorry. You all deserved to have so much more in your game experience than someone like me ruining your day and just betraying all of the trust you put into me when you invited me into your corporations. I know I can never hope to give back the parts of so many of you that I have taken in ISK and in spirit, but I will try. Please know that I am working hard to reform. From this day forth, I will never again engage in PvP and only plan to mine and mission purely for the sake of creating a positive environment and paying back all of those people who deserve their hard earned ISK back. This is it for me and how I plan on living out the rest of my days in EVE. It is hard though being alone. I was wondering if there was anyone out there who would be willing to take someone like me in? Like I said, I never intend to PvP again so please do not ask such of me. I can't bare the thought of hurting anyone again. I just want to be with a group who will accept me for who I strive to be and help me down my path of rehabilitation. Even if you can not offer such, words of comfort would really help me in my time of need.


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