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CSM Campaign who are you voting for?

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Rashnu Gorbani
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#181 - 2014-03-12 12:54:13 UTC
Too many candidates, too little time.
Before the elections I'll have to take a weekend day to read up on them all...
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#182 - 2014-03-12 15:11:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
James Nikolas Tesla wrote:
I vote for whomever has a distain for this so-called 'CODE'


Oh yeah, and boobees

Yes. That is the uncomfortable question every candidate must be forced to answer: "Where do you stand in regard to 'the Code?' No niggling or hemhawing, state clearly for the record, "For" or "Against."
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#183 - 2014-03-12 15:13:01 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
James Nikolas Tesla wrote:
I vote for whomever has a distain for this so-called 'CODE'


Oh yeah, and boobees

Yes. That is the uncomfortable question every candidate must be forced to answer: "Where do you stand in regard to 'the Code?'"


"Its a valid part of a valid playstyle and some people get far too worked up about it"

Nothing else you really need to say

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

you're welcome

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#184 - 2014-03-12 15:22:05 UTC
Darek Castigatus wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
James Nikolas Tesla wrote:
I vote for whomever has a distain for this so-called 'CODE'


Oh yeah, and boobees

Yes. That is the uncomfortable question every candidate must be forced to answer: "Where do you stand in regard to 'the Code?'"


"Its a valid part of a valid playstyle and some people get far too worked up about it"

Nothing else you really need to say

That's not the point. The point is to know whether the candidate is pro-miner or pro-ganker. That's the dividing line among the EVE player base. It's like gay marriage or global warming. If you know which side a candidate stands on the issue, you can guess where they stand on about anything else.
Commander Spurty
#185 - 2014-03-12 16:34:14 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:

That's not the point. The point is to know whether the candidate is pro-miner or pro-ganker. That's the dividing line among the EVE player base. It's like gay marriage or global warming. If you know which side a candidate stands on the issue, you can guess where they stand on about anything else.


o.O people 'think' like this?

/me grabs his family and runs for the hills

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#186 - 2014-03-12 16:42:19 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#187 - 2014-03-12 16:44:09 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
I mean gosh, if only a few loudmouthed backseat drivers had stirred that corpulent corpus and put some god damb effort into getting elected and having a voice, maybe I'd have had some help with some of the issues that I lost the argument over.

Gandalf? You want ******* Gandalf? I don't recall being granted the powers of the Istarii as being part of the deal for being elected. We don't get to 1v1 Devs or GMs who make proposals we don't like on a shaky rock bridge over a bottomless chasm. We get to make the strongest argument we can for or against, in a professional, accountable environment.

I have listened carefully to your points, but I am just predicting future performance based on past results...

- It's historical fact that CSM's are stacked with nullsec-centric players. You say 'not a bad thing', or 'we can represent all views' -- I say look at your own words about nullsec mechanics 'being a priority'...while Rome has been burning in hisec.
- CSM's ultimately can't stop CCP from making bad decisions.

So again, as a guy in hisec seeing what makes EvE great being slowly killed by a death of 1,000 cuts, while the CSM's collectively focus on modular POS's et al, I ask...what value CSM?
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#188 - 2014-03-12 18:52:36 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Just call me Lord.


Confidence in ones abilities is to be admired.

Megalomaniac arrogance on the other hand...

Mr Epeen Cool
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#189 - 2014-03-12 22:19:19 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
I mean gosh, if only a few loudmouthed backseat drivers had stirred that corpulent corpus and put some god damb effort into getting elected and having a voice, maybe I'd have had some help with some of the issues that I lost the argument over.

Gandalf? You want ******* Gandalf? I don't recall being granted the powers of the Istarii as being part of the deal for being elected. We don't get to 1v1 Devs or GMs who make proposals we don't like on a shaky rock bridge over a bottomless chasm. We get to make the strongest argument we can for or against, in a professional, accountable environment.

I have listened carefully to your points, but I am just predicting future performance based on past results...

- It's historical fact that CSM's are stacked with nullsec-centric players. You say 'not a bad thing', or 'we can represent all views' -- I say look at your own words about nullsec mechanics 'being a priority'...while Rome has been burning in hisec.
- CSM's ultimately can't stop CCP from making bad decisions.

So again, as a guy in hisec seeing what makes EvE great being slowly killed by a death of 1,000 cuts, while the CSM's collectively focus on modular POS's et al, I ask...what value CSM?


Did not run

Did not vote

Is bitter about not being represented

:You:

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#190 - 2014-03-12 22:20:23 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Just call me Lord.


Confidence in ones abilities is to be admired.

Megalomaniac arrogance on the other hand...

Now just making **** up, on the other hand, that's my favourite thing

Mr Epeen Cool


"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Kyperion
#191 - 2014-03-12 22:41:02 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
I mean gosh, if only a few loudmouthed backseat drivers had stirred that corpulent corpus and put some god damb effort into getting elected and having a voice, maybe I'd have had some help with some of the issues that I lost the argument over.

Gandalf? You want ******* Gandalf? I don't recall being granted the powers of the Istarii as being part of the deal for being elected. We don't get to 1v1 Devs or GMs who make proposals we don't like on a shaky rock bridge over a bottomless chasm. We get to make the strongest argument we can for or against, in a professional, accountable environment.

I have listened carefully to your points, but I am just predicting future performance based on past results...

- It's historical fact that CSM's are stacked with nullsec-centric players. You say 'not a bad thing', or 'we can represent all views' -- I say look at your own words about nullsec mechanics 'being a priority'...while Rome has been burning in hisec.
- CSM's ultimately can't stop CCP from making bad decisions.

So again, as a guy in hisec seeing what makes EvE great being slowly killed by a death of 1,000 cuts, while the CSM's collectively focus on modular POS's et al, I ask...what value CSM?


Did not run

Did not vote

Is bitter about not being represented

:You:


Did not answer Criticism

Does use insults and demeaning language to describe anyone who has a different viewpoint

Clearly has no trace of objectivity

:Malcanis:
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#192 - 2014-03-12 23:52:18 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Darek Castigatus wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
James Nikolas Tesla wrote:
I vote for whomever has a distain for this so-called 'CODE'


Oh yeah, and boobees

Yes. That is the uncomfortable question every candidate must be forced to answer: "Where do you stand in regard to 'the Code?'"


"Its a valid part of a valid playstyle and some people get far too worked up about it"

Nothing else you really need to say

That's not the point. The point is to know whether the candidate is pro-miner or pro-ganker. That's the dividing line among the EVE player base. It's like gay marriage or global warming. If you know which side a candidate stands on the issue, you can guess where they stand on about anything else.


Then go ask them on the CSM Campaign forum, yeesh.

You're going to find your ballot to be pretty small, though.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Tajic Kaundur
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#193 - 2014-03-13 05:10:44 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Maybe Ray Sipe. Our very own Lady Gaga:

http://youtu.be/bHLdYVELWrQ




He seems to embody the EvE community very well.


Precisely this. Ray Sipe is getting all my votes.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#194 - 2014-03-13 10:40:23 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
I mean gosh, if only a few loudmouthed backseat drivers had stirred that corpulent corpus and put some god damb effort into getting elected and having a voice, maybe I'd have had some help with some of the issues that I lost the argument over.

Gandalf? You want ******* Gandalf? I don't recall being granted the powers of the Istarii as being part of the deal for being elected. We don't get to 1v1 Devs or GMs who make proposals we don't like on a shaky rock bridge over a bottomless chasm. We get to make the strongest argument we can for or against, in a professional, accountable environment.

I have listened carefully to your points, but I am just predicting future performance based on past results...

- It's historical fact that CSM's are stacked with nullsec-centric players. You say 'not a bad thing', or 'we can represent all views' -- I say look at your own words about nullsec mechanics 'being a priority'...while Rome has been burning in hisec.
- CSM's ultimately can't stop CCP from making bad decisions.

So again, as a guy in hisec seeing what makes EvE great being slowly killed by a death of 1,000 cuts, while the CSM's collectively focus on modular POS's et al, I ask...what value CSM?


I make the same prediction as you regarding the composition of the CSM, because you (and people like you) have proven that you're absolutely immune to any reasoning that would lead you (and people like you) to take action to change it.

I've done my level best to try and persuade you that if you feel unrepresented and neglected, then participating and leading others who share your concerns is going to be more productive than sulking and whining, but your dedication to your sulk/whine strategy is too strong for me to overcome.

As you wish, amen.

PS Are you under the impression that modular POS would not be implemented in hi-sec for some reason?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Psianh Auvyander
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#195 - 2014-03-15 17:47:24 UTC
I've got so many more CSM interviews to listen to! We've got a lot of good choices, but a lot of my slots are still open. Declarations of War is supposed to be doing a thing with multiple candidates at once that I look forward to not only participating in, but also listening to. I think that will be a really cool way to get information from those running.

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@wsethbrown

Gorski Car
#196 - 2014-03-15 18:16:36 UTC
Hello friends

Collect this post

Good Posting
Doomheim
#197 - 2014-03-15 18:36:24 UTC
I've been reading all the threads because i wanted to know all the options and probably i will vote for low/npc-small alliance null candidates, but i'm not sure yet. I only know that i won't vote for any high sec candidate, indy or pvper.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#198 - 2014-03-15 23:30:38 UTC
Good Posting wrote:
I've been reading all the threads because i wanted to know all the options and probably i will vote for low/npc-small alliance null candidates, but i'm not sure yet. I only know that i won't vote for any high sec candidate, indy or pvper.


I strongly advise the you not seperate candidates as "hi-sec" or "null-sec". Evaluate the platforms on their own merits.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Good Posting
Doomheim
#199 - 2014-03-15 23:38:39 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Good Posting wrote:
I've been reading all the threads because i wanted to know all the options and probably i will vote for low/npc-small alliance null candidates, but i'm not sure yet. I only know that i won't vote for any high sec candidate, indy or pvper.


I strongly advise the you not seperate candidates as "hi-sec" or "null-sec". Evaluate the platforms on their own merits.


It is not because they are from high sec, i have nothing against high sec. It is because i don't like the campaigns/suggestions they are making.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#200 - 2014-03-15 23:53:14 UTC
Allow me to recommend Steve Ronuken to your attention

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016